Numbers are wrong because of the method in which they are gathered. Numbers can be manipulated to offer a certain point of view. I'm sorry you think that is not the case.

 

The problem lies in the job of locating all the numbers for all the products. But I am sure the gov't has those numbers, and then simply "cherry pick" the items they want to make a much rosier picture.
But why would they leave out energy and food?

Wow! "Cherry picking" information sounds familiar doesn't it?

 

Down with math! :lol:

I've seen no evidence that they have; at least not on the data that I linked to. Could you cite where it states this on the page I linked?

 

I'm sorry Rev but seeing isn't always believing. Just because you see numbers it doesn't mean those numbers haven't been manipulated. It actually has nothing to do with math. Math isn't behind manipulation. I'm sorry you want to put your head in the sand and ass in the air.

 

Then why believe anything? From anyone? Anywhere.. Why believe that the speed limit signs mean what they say? They were placed there by the evil government types to keep the poor man down! :roll:

 

He may have gotten that number from one of my posts. I put the wrong information in. It's been the highest rate in 17 years, not 17%.

 

The point I'm trying to get across is that you should not automatically believe what people say. Find out where they get their information for and how they come to such a conclusion.

All I said is that numbers can be manipulated to get across a persons agenda. 2+2 is still 4. But when you start gathering and formulating numbers on a grand scale and such importance as say inflation. Then I think everything needs to be taken into account.

 

But if you can't (or choose not to) prove that the numbers are wrong, then bringing up the argument that they could be manipulated is completely and utterly pointless. Prove them wrong, if you think they are.

 

well this may take up alot of space, for that I do apologize, but here are some food price numbers, i just guessed on some items, some I was fairly sure have gone up. I guess we can see why they arent added, they might throw the whole inflation estimates all askew.



Series Id: APU0300701111
Area: South urban
Item: Flour, white, all purpose, per lb. (453.6 gm)


2006 0.304 0.309 0.311 0.313 0.329 0.340 0.336 0.341 0.354 0.339 0.325 0.319 2007 0.328 0.341 0.351 0.352 0.363 0.367 0.369 0.376 0.376 0.374 0.399 0.391

Increase: 18.41%

Series Id: APU0300704111
Area: South urban
Item: Bacon, sliced, per lb. (453.6 gm)


2006 3.493 3.594 3.605 3.222 3.331 3.361 3.439 3.894 3.861 3.924 3.424 3.813 2007 3.753 3.832 3.588 3.748 3.742 3.631 3.846 3.783 3.931 3.783 3.500 3.631

Decrease: 5%

Series Id: APU0300706111
Area: South urban
Item: Chicken, fresh, whole, per lb. (453.6 gm)


2006 0.990 0.977 0.980 0.960 0.960 0.950 0.953 0.961 0.964 0.965 0.953 0.975 2007 0.983 0.988 0.991 1.027 1.079 1.084 1.082 1.072 1.110 1.073 1.131 1.114

Increase: 12.48%



Series Id: APU0300708111
Area: South urban
Item: Eggs, grade A, large, per doz.

2006 1.171 1.005 1.040 0.980 0.900 0.935 0.953 0.990 1.003 1.044 1.098 1.362 2007 1.374 1.655 1.423 1.408 1.454 1.272 1.393 1.495 1.752 1.674 1.791 2.078

Increase: 34.46%


Series Id: APU0300712211
Area: South urban
Item: Lettuce, iceberg, per lb. (453.6 gm)
2006 0.861 0.804 0.780 0.825 0.931 0.857 0.776 0.844 0.925 0.880 0.829 0.840 2007 0.897 0.883 0.880 0.954 0.807 0.838 0.839 0.923 0.955 1.030 1.002 0.942

Increase: 10.83%


Series Id: APU0300713111
Area: South urban
Item: Orange juice, frozen concentrate, 12 oz. can, per 16 oz. (473.2 ml)



2006 1.909 1.971 1.969 1.984 1.972 1.980 2.035 2.123 2.156 2.141 2.412 2.486 2007 2.565 2.678 2.689 2.701 2.690 2.739 2.657

Increase: 6.44%


Series Id: APU0300FL2101
Area: South urban
Item: Lettuce, romaine, per lb. (453.6 gm)



2006 1.229 1.203 1.171 1.167 1.302 1.246 1.246 1.255 1.259 1.205 2007 1.540 1.394 1.452 1.451 1.486 1.398 1.690 1.806
Increase: 33.28%


http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/outside.jsp?survey=ap

 

And guessing at numbers because "I was fairly sure some have gone up" doesn't skew numbers? :roll: