Did Haggard contribute to Bush's trademark hypocrisy?
#111
11-06-2006, 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by Consider
Originally Posted by Fozzy
I disagree with the premise that all homosexuals are choosing to be such. Some IMHO choose to be homosexual while some are born this way. Homosexuality is natural (i.e. appearing in other species in nature). I myself do not care which it is. I see people choosing to do all sorts of things that I have no interest in. I as of yet have to see anything that makes someone being gay that makes them "bad" or worse than anyone else that walks on the earth. In American people have the right and freedoms to practice all sorts of things. You do not have the right to not be offended, You can be offended all you like and not partake in the activities that offend you.
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#112
11-06-2006, 04:16 PM
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When you go to vote tomorrow... (I hope you vote...) I hope you vote for a change... (tax breaks for the worker, not the upper, MOST wealthy people in the country; money going to education, not war; listening to the military advisers, not former CEOs who will profit from war; a drug program that helps people, not one that's a windfall for pharmaceutical companies; there's more to it than this... but these are good examples.)
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#113
11-06-2006, 04:23 PM
Originally Posted by Consider
When you go to vote tomorrow... (I hope you vote...) I hope you vote for a change...
(tax breaks for the worker, not the upper, MOST wealthy people in the country;
money going to education, not war; listening to the military advisers, not former CEOs who will profit from war; a drug program that helps people, not one that's a windfall for pharmaceutical companies; there's more to it than this... but these are good examples.)
Just sayin'. :wink:
#114
11-06-2006, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Consider
You said you could post a comparable list,
so I say, go to a comparable site,
cut and paste... and there we have it... Some Charity gets some money. Awwwww. I like Merlot, myself. But that's about it. and just try to fix the problem in the first place. And I don't feel like compiling a list on my own. I only work hard when I am being paid to do so. :wink: That's exactly why I offered the $500 to a charity.
Unless of course you know that there are not that many or even nearly that many sexually deviant Democrats....
Look, EVERYONE should care. Look at that list I posted. It is HUGE. There should not be that many sexually deviant leaders, much less sexually deviant leaders who are hypocritically preaching Family Values and Christianity and bashing gays.
Originally Posted by Consider
One thing I may have failed to say is that when I say, "people are born gay," I don't mean that it's a gene.
I think it's more subtle than that... maybe a DNA chain, or hormones... or something in the DNA that affects the hormones. These are physical things, but they aren't "genes" specifically.
Originally Posted by The American Heritage Dictionary
gene n. A hereditary unit that occupies a specific location on a chromosome and determines a particular characteristic in an organism. Genes exist in a number of different forms and can undergo mutation. [From Greek genos, race, offspring. See gen…- below.]
DNA n. A nucleic acid that carries the genetic information in the cell and is capable of self-replication and synthesis of RNA. DNA consists of two long chains of nucleotides twisted into a double helix and joined by hydrogen bonds between the complementary bases adenine and thymine or cytosine and guanine. The sequence of nucleotides determines individual hereditary characteristics. [d(eoxyribo)n(ucleic) a(cid).]
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#115
11-06-2006, 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by dpatt
Uh Oh Golfhobo...
After reading that I have come to the conclusion there's an ever so slight chance you, yourself may be a closet sexual deviant Christian Republican too. To the Rev: I know the answer to your quiz. You are ONLY a Republican! No, wait! Maybe, you're only a Christian! I'll have to re-Consider! :lol: As for your wife getting pizzed off.... don't worry.... she has a picture of ME! :lol: :lol: As for YOU, dpatt: You couldn't be further from the truth! I am not, nor will I EVER be.... A REPUBLICAN!!! :lol: :lol: [Even tho you left THAT out of our "edited" apology!] Consider: I understand your concern for protecting our youth. And I can see the value of such a test to identify predators. But, it still remains that it is against the LAW! You are NOW advocating a breach of our 5th Ammendment rights against "self incrimination!" The very FACT that you would "consider" abridging one of our rights, in order to "identify" the dangerous people in our midst, shows that you are willing to suspend ANY and ALL of our Constitutional rights to "protect" us from ourselves or others. And THAT is no different than what BUSH wants to do!!!! :roll: As for the picture of Bush from your Blogsite (which I've seen before,) in a snapshot moment from a camera, that could easily be a reaction that even "I" would make to some guy telling me he was GAY and wanted to make me KING! It's NOT a sexual "innuendo." It's a man saying, "You said WHAT to the President?" There is ample reason to question his "connections" and his judgement in who he is photographed with. But, you are NOT allowed to write your own captions! I take NO pleasure in defending Bush! I despise him. But, unlike HIM and MOST Republicans on this and other sites, I DON'T despise ALL Republicans. That is the difference. I blame ONE single man. [well... you might add Rummy, Cheney and Rove] They accuse ALL Democrats (or at least the Liberals.) BUSH has brought this "mind control" to them. With the help of the Moral Majority, HE has "united" all Republicans against their Democratic brothers. It is now up to US to "save" the UNION! They ridicule our "get along" philosophy.... but that is the very BASIS of our Constitution and our form of government! It is the ONLY path to PEACE in the World. Domination is NOT a substitute for equality and peace. In Football, it is said, that the best Defense is a good Offense! But, that does not apply to political and social affairs. Our "meddling" offense has brought us nothing but grief! We need a strong and secure Defense that would deter ANY misguided Offense. We need to once again build the kind of nation that would have others come begging to us for help and guidance. We have LOST that! And unless we regain it... we will have LOST the WAR, even if we might WIN an occaisional battle. Hobo
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#116
11-06-2006, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Consider
When you go to vote tomorrow... (I hope you vote...) I hope you vote for a change...
Let me see... this is what I've read about Doyle and Wisconsin...
Jim Doyle was sworn in as the 44th Governor of Wisconsin on January 6, 2003. He is the first Democratic Governor of Wisconsin in more than 16 years. Governor Doyle has proven to be a strong leader, working in a bipartisan way to get Wisconsin back on track.
When he took office, Governor Doyle inherited a $3.2 billion deficit – the largest deficit in Wisconsin’s history. Governor Doyle faced the challenge head on and balanced the budget while holding the line on taxes. As a result, state taxes as a percentage of income are now the lowest in 34 years
(tax breaks for the worker, not the upper, MOST wealthy people in the country;
money going to education, not war; listening to the military advisers, not former CEOs who will profit from war; a drug program that helps people, not one that's a windfall for pharmaceutical companies; there's more to it than this... but these are good examples.)
Just sayin'. :wink: The gov. would best protect by providing its citizens with education. You know that Wisconsin was divided up and organized from the beginning to have state universities available for all its people. Education is not a goodie. McDonalds is in the goodie category... McDonalds gets corporate welfare... and I find that disgruntling.
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#117
11-06-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally Posted by Consider
That's exactly why I offered the $500 to a charity.
Look, EVERYONE should care.
Look at that list I posted. It is HUGE. There should not be that many sexually deviant leaders, much less sexually deviant leaders who are hypocritically preaching Family Values and Christianity and bashing gays. Vote for CHANGE? That is a sound byte - Tell me exactly what change you think we should change: Should we change the fact that our economy is doing BETTER now than when Clinton was in office? Should we change the fact that we have not seen another terrorist attack on our soil since Sept. 11? Should we change the fact that the DOW has hit record highs, over and over? Should we change the fact that the price of oil is FINALLY going DOWN, something that hasn't happened since CLINTON was still in office? What exactly should we "Change"?
Originally Posted by Consider
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Consider
One thing I may have failed to say is that when I say, "people are born gay," I don't mean that it's a gene.
I think it's more subtle than that... maybe a DNA chain, or hormones... or something in the DNA that affects the hormones. These are physical things, but they aren't "genes" specifically.
Originally Posted by The American Heritage Dictionary
gene n. A hereditary unit that occupies a specific location on a chromosome and determines a particular characteristic in an organism. Genes exist in a number of different forms and can undergo mutation. [From Greek genos, race, offspring. See gen…- below.]
DNA n. A nucleic acid that carries the genetic information in the cell and is capable of self-replication and synthesis of RNA. DNA consists of two long chains of nucleotides twisted into a double helix and joined by hydrogen bonds between the complementary bases adenine and thymine or cytosine and guanine. The sequence of nucleotides determines individual hereditary characteristics. [d(eoxyribo)n(ucleic) a(cid).]
Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) is a nucleic acid that contains the genetic instructions for the biological development of a cellular form of life or a virus. All known cellular life and some viruses have DNAs. DNA is a long polymer of nucleotides (a polynucleotide) that encodes the sequence of amino acid residues in proteins, using the genetic code.
#118
11-06-2006, 04:45 PM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Originally Posted by dpatt
Uh Oh Golfhobo...
After reading that I have come to the conclusion there's an ever so slight chance you, yourself may be a closet sexual deviant Christian Republican too. To the Rev: I know the answer to your quiz. You are ONLY a Republican! No, wait! Maybe, you're only a Christian! I'll have to re-Consider! :lol:
As for your wife getting pizzed off.... don't worry.... she has a picture of ME! :lol: :lol:
I take NO pleasure in defending Bush! I despise him. But, unlike HIM and MOST Republicans on this and other sites, I DON'T despise ALL Republicans.
That is the difference. I blame ONE single man. [well... you might add Rummy, Cheney and Rove] They accuse ALL Democrats (or at least the Liberals.)
BUSH has brought this "mind control" to them. With the help of the Moral Majority, HE has "united" all Republicans against their Democratic brothers. It is now up to US to "save" the UNION!
In Football, it is said, that the best Defense is a good Offense! But, that does not apply to political and social affairs. Our "meddling" offense has brought us nothing but grief! We need a strong and secure Defense that would deter ANY misguided Offense. We need to once again build the kind of nation that would have others come begging to us for help and guidance.
#119
11-06-2006, 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Consider
Let me see... this is what I've read about Doyle and Wisconsin...
Jim Doyle was sworn in as the 44th Governor of Wisconsin on January 6, 2003. He is the first Democratic Governor of Wisconsin in more than 16 years. Governor Doyle has proven to be a strong leader, working in a bipartisan way to get Wisconsin back on track.
When he took office, Governor Doyle inherited a $3.2 billion deficit – the largest deficit in Wisconsin’s history. Governor Doyle faced the challenge head on and balanced the budget while holding the line on taxes. As a result, state taxes as a percentage of income are now the lowest in 34 years I'm sure the sound byte quote you posted came from yet ANOTHER propaganda website.
(tax breaks for the worker, not the upper, MOST wealthy people in the country;
The gov. would best protect by providing its citizens with education. You know that Wisconsin was divided up and organized from the beginning to have state universities available for all its people. Education is not a goodie.
McDonalds is in the goodie category... McDonalds gets corporate welfare... and I find that disgruntling.
That's right - bite the hand that feeds the voters.
#120
11-06-2006, 04:56 PM
FDR, a Democrat with a "New Deal" to help the middle to lower class American, took on Hitler and whooped his Azz!
Bush has done neither for or to either! just replyin' :wink:
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