God is an Outlaw (for Slimland)
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#71
10-24-2006Hello and good morning, great game yesterday but I am tired of all the late night work
The end result WILL BE DEFINABLE within mathematical theorem before this is over. Please Sir, allow me the title ?the ultimate skeptic.? Either it is fact or it is not and although I may reference theology, (their interpretation) I offer mine and even though the empirical data has not been defined within scientific constraints until this closet case has specific tests conducted, the full scope will never be released in content inclusive of empirical data. So until then I will ruffle a few feathers until someone with some real horsepower takes up the cause and encircles me with quality people. The biggest problem so far most want the rights and that is a nil, this is for understanding and not monetary gain, period! I am the hammer when it comes to this. Nothing I have done is special, I have only read and exposed myself to possibilities and continue to use the questions and data from all over the world. Anyone could do what I have but most are caught up in ?what can it do for my pocket book? and I have never fallen under that spell!
My first postulate was proven and that was written when I was 16 years old when describing how the human brain works. Never has anyone ever been able to show me I am incorrect unless they fall to some of the ignorant ?principles of majority? and what has occurred so far this week is that I have a new direction in physics; address the particle/wave duality.
And this one should clamp it all down with absolution.
As for these items in theology, I have studied theology since I was a kid. All of the tribes of men have created scenarios but in an almost universal form, they convey such similarities of the compassion and love that should be among people (society) and even when describing the total (singularity/god) the properties or representations can be universally applied to properties of known physical forces such as energy/light.
From Rah to Jesus; light is life! It is so simple it is stupid and like a rock thrown into the pond; we do have an effect. All of us. We are in the image of the total in that we are the only thing that knows it exists with the capability to know the total; enlightenment.
We are One, kind Sir!
I once wrote: Happiness in knowing; once we are, we are One!
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I will try ?..Originally Posted by "golfhoboo
Personally, I would like to hear more about this... if you can tell your story in plain English.
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Who are these mysterious Canadians of whom you speak? What kind of study have you been involved in? Personal pursuit of knowledge as gleaned from the writings of man? Or some kind of "classes.?"
A person who has not been ruined with today?s model as being empirical. Found a flaw in Folk State and will possibly set a benchmark with BBO release. My Canadian Friend is to be the writer and keeps an unbiased view with the capabilities to write theorem and prove each portion within the constraints of math. Who are these mysterious Canadians of whom you speak? What kind of study have you been involved in? Personal pursuit of knowledge as gleaned from the writings of man? Or some kind of "classes.?"
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Is intelligence based on language?
No... but conversation IS.
No it is not. Just because I do not follow certain principles of majority does not have anything to do with intellect nor conversation. My character may be flawed but that is it.Is intelligence based on language?
No... but conversation IS.
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Is reasoning based on following, or knowledge?
No... neither, actually. It is based on structure. Whether it be scientific reasoning or intellectual reasoning, it makes it easier if one follows certain rules known to all who would want to engage.
Like I said ?principles of majority.? You want me to discuss in terms known, so you can look up and see if application is there or to see if I am just talking out my neck.Is reasoning based on following, or knowledge?
No... neither, actually. It is based on structure. Whether it be scientific reasoning or intellectual reasoning, it makes it easier if one follows certain rules known to all who would want to engage.
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No! But ignorance is based on ....? well you pick the definition.
IMHO, it would be based on prejudice, apathy and conceit.
I am conceited. I am pissed off that in 1982 I wrote a piece that would have assisted understanding the brain and the response I go was rude, so I said screw the establishment and promised someday to return and shut these idiots up. My first postulate was that energy could be held at a rest state upon mass and be repropagated retaining its properties and it was not until the 90?s that this was proven in rubidium. So yes, I am a little ticked.No! But ignorance is based on ....? well you pick the definition.
IMHO, it would be based on prejudice, apathy and conceit.
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I have to get ready for a big day, you know, like giving a little back as thanks for being alive.
This is a noble gesture, coming from an "enlightened one." Almost as noble as humility, and almost as useful as "understanding" and "accepting" those who might not yet share your opinions or knowledge.
My humility is what offered me this understanding. I geared myself to just please allow me to understand and I will work with every bit of my fiber to share someday. So everything towards this is within the absolute humbleness this bag of bones can muster, I beg daily to be able to just allow me the ability to convey what has been sought, forever, and the results will be that these new generations will have the chance you and I never did.I have to get ready for a big day, you know, like giving a little back as thanks for being alive.
This is a noble gesture, coming from an "enlightened one." Almost as noble as humility, and almost as useful as "understanding" and "accepting" those who might not yet share your opinions or knowledge.
The end result WILL BE DEFINABLE within mathematical theorem before this is over. Please Sir, allow me the title ?the ultimate skeptic.? Either it is fact or it is not and although I may reference theology, (their interpretation) I offer mine and even though the empirical data has not been defined within scientific constraints until this closet case has specific tests conducted, the full scope will never be released in content inclusive of empirical data. So until then I will ruffle a few feathers until someone with some real horsepower takes up the cause and encircles me with quality people. The biggest problem so far most want the rights and that is a nil, this is for understanding and not monetary gain, period! I am the hammer when it comes to this. Nothing I have done is special, I have only read and exposed myself to possibilities and continue to use the questions and data from all over the world. Anyone could do what I have but most are caught up in ?what can it do for my pocket book? and I have never fallen under that spell!
My first postulate was proven and that was written when I was 16 years old when describing how the human brain works. Never has anyone ever been able to show me I am incorrect unless they fall to some of the ignorant ?principles of majority? and what has occurred so far this week is that I have a new direction in physics; address the particle/wave duality.
And this one should clamp it all down with absolution.
As for these items in theology, I have studied theology since I was a kid. All of the tribes of men have created scenarios but in an almost universal form, they convey such similarities of the compassion and love that should be among people (society) and even when describing the total (singularity/god) the properties or representations can be universally applied to properties of known physical forces such as energy/light.
From Rah to Jesus; light is life! It is so simple it is stupid and like a rock thrown into the pond; we do have an effect. All of us. We are in the image of the total in that we are the only thing that knows it exists with the capability to know the total; enlightenment.
We are One, kind Sir!
I once wrote: Happiness in knowing; once we are, we are One!
#72
Bishadi said:
for the golfhobo .... I will address you comments after i return from the afternoon golf game but i want to be clear, I wish nothing negative and apologize for my rudeness and arrogance.
Like my best friend always says... "How many divots did you dig?" I wasn't really asking for, or expecting, an apology... but it is accepted.
I work hard at what I do and with every piece of my fiber, I promise I am as diligent and stubborn towards the means of just wanting to be fair and consistant in my quest honoring the works of as many ideas and perspectives as i possibly can. Where my stupidity comes in is my lack of patience with ignorance based on stubborn beliefs versus empirical data.
That's fine, Bishadi. MOST of us have little patience with ignorance. But, for those who aren't familiar with the term, would you please define "empirical data?" I'll admit it is not a phrase I throw around often, so I looked it up. That's what "linguists" do. It is part of the search for truth, and the basis of conversation.
Again I apologize for being harsh and rude and maybe someday when i grow up, vanity will not appear.
Vanity is not something we "grow out of." And to hope or wait for someday when we WILL... is a "vain" attempt.
But on a fun note, i like talking like the 'truck driver' it is my gift of being human versus being stuffy under constraints.
I live to be alive not to be accepted. To know me personally, you would see, I am but a kid with a magnifying glass.
I didn't SAY, nor do I believe, that you could "talk LIKE the truck driver." But, that's okay. You say you are "a kid with a magnfying glass." Isn't that somewhat like a scientist with a Microscope? One who might "miss the forest for the trees?"
Personally, I am an observer. I choose to be "neutral" as I watch and learn from those of ALL walks of life, who have enslaved themselves to a certain belief or path. I don't follow them, nor lead them. I just learn from them.
Hello and good morning, great game yesterday but I am tired of all the late night work.
Filling in divots in the dark are we?
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Who are these mysterious Canadians of whom you speak? What kind of study have you been involved in? Personal pursuit of knowledge as gleaned from the writings of man? Or some kind of "classes.?"
A person who has not been ruined with today?s model as being empirical. Found a flaw in Folk State and will possibly set a benchmark with BBO release. My Canadian Friend is to be the writer and keeps an unbiased view with the capabilities to write theorem and prove each portion within the constraints of math.
Well, I don't know where "Folk State ?College? is... Heard of BBC, but not BBO... and I'm not sure I know of too many people NOT affected by empirical data, but I'm GLAD you found someone who can use LINGUSISTIC skills to write a theorem, and prove it mathmatically or otherwise.
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Is intelligence based on language?
No... but conversation IS.
No it is not. Just because I do not follow certain principles of majority does not have anything to do with intellect nor conversation. My character may be flawed but that is it.
Yes... it IS. I'm not making ANY statements concerning your character, but, the ability to convey thought to one of another culture, is most definitely based on finding a common language. Without it, there can BE no conversation.
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Is reasoning based on following, or knowledge?
No... neither, actually. It is based on structure. Whether it be scientific reasoning or intellectual reasoning, it makes it easier if one follows certain rules known to all who would want to engage.
Like I said ?principles of majority.? You want me to discuss in terms known, so you can look up and see if application is there or to see if I am just talking out my neck.
Actually, I am not talking about WORDS that can be "looked up." But rather, sentence structure, which although different in different languages, ALWAYS follows RULES, that when relied upon, makes it easier to comprehend languages unfamiliar to us. There are similarities in ALL languages that make it possible to comprehend thought with only a basic understanding of words and structure.
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No! But ignorance is based on ....? well you pick the definition.
IMHO, it would be based on prejudice, apathy and conceit.
I am conceited. I am pissed off that in 1982 I wrote a piece that would have assisted understanding the brain and the response I got was rude, so I said screw the establishment and promised someday to return and shut these idiots up. My first postulate was that energy could be held at a rest state upon mass and be repropagated retaining its properties and it was not until the 90?s that this was proven in rubidium. So yes, I am a little ticked.
Well... for what it's worth, I've figured out how UFO's fly, and furthermore have incorporated that into a solution to the "Star Wars" defense shield problem faced by our country. But, no one is listening... and I'm JUST as ticked off as YOU are! See? While YOU were looking for Rubidium, I was looking for a solution to Mutually Assured Destruction. Oh... and BTW, I disagree with Einstein's theory of relativity concerning the impossibility of Time Travel. So what?
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I have to get ready for a big day, you know, like giving a little back as thanks for being alive.
This is a noble gesture, coming from an "enlightened one." Almost as noble as humility, and almost as useful as "understanding" and "accepting" those who might not yet share your opinions or knowledge.
My humility is what offered me this understanding. I geared myself to just please allow me to understand and I will work with every bit of my fiber to share someday. So everything towards this is within the absolute humbleness this bag of bones can muster, I beg daily to be able to just allow me the ability to convey what has been sought, forever, and the results will be that these new generations will have the chance you and I never did.
The end result WILL BE DEFINABLE within mathematical theorem before this is over. Please Sir, allow me the title ?the ultimate skeptic.? Either it is fact or it is not and although I may reference theology, (their interpretation) I offer mine and even though the empirical data has not been defined within scientific constraints until this closet case has specific tests conducted, the full scope will never be released in content inclusive of empirical data. So until then I will ruffle a few feathers until someone with some real horsepower takes up the cause and encircles me with quality people. The biggest problem so far most want the rights and that is a nil, this is for understanding and not monetary gain, period! I am the hammer when it comes to this. Nothing I have done is special, I have only read and exposed myself to possibilities and continue to use the questions and data from all over the world. Anyone could do what I have but most are caught up in ?what can it do for my pocket book? and I have never fallen under that spell!
Okay... I crown you "the ultimate skeptic!" I applaud, and share, your altruistic motives. But, given the topic of this thread, I have YET to understand your position. I have beliefs that extend beyond the scope of religious doctrine, but for the purpose of THIS discussion, I subjected myself to the discussion of Slimland's "stubborn" beliefs, AND based my argument on scriptural reference. I hate to tell you this, but until YOU can do the same, your empirical philosophy will most likely continue to fall on deaf ears. And unless you can learn to constrain your thoughts by linguistic principles, you will continue to sound like a prodigy of the acid generation.
My first postulate was proven and that was written when I was 16 years old when describing how the human brain works. Never has anyone ever been able to show me I am incorrect unless they fall to some of the ignorant ?principles of majority? and what has occurred so far this week is that I have a new direction in physics; address the particle/wave duality.
Bishadi: I understand where you are coming from. You are obviously very intelligent. Personally, I gave up on Physics AND Trig, when I realized I knew as much or more than the professors. I have decried that "lack of patience" ALL my life! Intelligence is like a loaded pistol. Without proper training and constraint, it will most DEFINITELY ruin the life of the one who PULLS the trigger!
And this one should clamp it all down with absolution.
I think you mean "absoluteness." Absolution is a biblical term meaning the "absolving" of guilt and responsibility.
Mabye, it's time for YOU to "look it up." See what I mean about how language guides conversation?
As for these items in theology, I have studied theology since I was a kid. All of the tribes of men have created scenarios but in an almost universal form, they convey such similarities of the compassion and love that should be among people (society) and even when describing the total (singularity/god) the properties or representations can be universally applied to properties of known physical forces such as energy/light.
From Rah to Jesus; light is life! It is so simple it is stupid and like a rock thrown into the pond; we do have an effect. All of us. We are in the image of the total in that we are the only thing that knows it exists with the capability to know the total; enlightenment.
We are One, kind Sir!
I once wrote: Happiness in knowing; once we are, we are One!
I understand the theory that light is life. But, are you saying that a life that outruns the speed of light can no longer exist? Personally, I don't believe that. The "consciousness" existed in darkness, before God said, "let there be light." Sometimes, knowledge is gained in the darkest moments or environs. There is nothing intrinsically enlightening about light! I do my best thinking in the dark! [BTW, a stone thrown in a pond will produce waves EVEN if there is no light by which to see them!] Also, the speed of Light is 186,000 miles per second. What if Angels can travel at 190k mps?? Are you saying that God, who created the Universe, has subjected himself AND his angels to the laws of the universe? Somehow... I doubt it!
Yes, Bishadi, kind Sir. We most likely ARE one. And I would wound you with no more intent than I would myself! But... I AM just a bit masochistic! So, guard yourself against me.
Hobo
for the golfhobo .... I will address you comments after i return from the afternoon golf game but i want to be clear, I wish nothing negative and apologize for my rudeness and arrogance.
Like my best friend always says... "How many divots did you dig?" I wasn't really asking for, or expecting, an apology... but it is accepted.
I work hard at what I do and with every piece of my fiber, I promise I am as diligent and stubborn towards the means of just wanting to be fair and consistant in my quest honoring the works of as many ideas and perspectives as i possibly can. Where my stupidity comes in is my lack of patience with ignorance based on stubborn beliefs versus empirical data.
That's fine, Bishadi. MOST of us have little patience with ignorance. But, for those who aren't familiar with the term, would you please define "empirical data?" I'll admit it is not a phrase I throw around often, so I looked it up. That's what "linguists" do. It is part of the search for truth, and the basis of conversation.
Again I apologize for being harsh and rude and maybe someday when i grow up, vanity will not appear.
Vanity is not something we "grow out of." And to hope or wait for someday when we WILL... is a "vain" attempt.
But on a fun note, i like talking like the 'truck driver' it is my gift of being human versus being stuffy under constraints.
I live to be alive not to be accepted. To know me personally, you would see, I am but a kid with a magnifying glass.
I didn't SAY, nor do I believe, that you could "talk LIKE the truck driver." But, that's okay. You say you are "a kid with a magnfying glass." Isn't that somewhat like a scientist with a Microscope? One who might "miss the forest for the trees?"
Personally, I am an observer. I choose to be "neutral" as I watch and learn from those of ALL walks of life, who have enslaved themselves to a certain belief or path. I don't follow them, nor lead them. I just learn from them.
Hello and good morning, great game yesterday but I am tired of all the late night work.
Filling in divots in the dark are we?
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I will try ?.Originally Posted by "golfhoboo
Personally, I would like to hear more about this... if you can tell your story in plain English.
Quote:
Who are these mysterious Canadians of whom you speak? What kind of study have you been involved in? Personal pursuit of knowledge as gleaned from the writings of man? Or some kind of "classes.?"
A person who has not been ruined with today?s model as being empirical. Found a flaw in Folk State and will possibly set a benchmark with BBO release. My Canadian Friend is to be the writer and keeps an unbiased view with the capabilities to write theorem and prove each portion within the constraints of math.
Well, I don't know where "Folk State ?College? is... Heard of BBC, but not BBO... and I'm not sure I know of too many people NOT affected by empirical data, but I'm GLAD you found someone who can use LINGUSISTIC skills to write a theorem, and prove it mathmatically or otherwise.
Quote:
Is intelligence based on language?
No... but conversation IS.
No it is not. Just because I do not follow certain principles of majority does not have anything to do with intellect nor conversation. My character may be flawed but that is it.
Yes... it IS. I'm not making ANY statements concerning your character, but, the ability to convey thought to one of another culture, is most definitely based on finding a common language. Without it, there can BE no conversation.
Quote:
Is reasoning based on following, or knowledge?
No... neither, actually. It is based on structure. Whether it be scientific reasoning or intellectual reasoning, it makes it easier if one follows certain rules known to all who would want to engage.
Like I said ?principles of majority.? You want me to discuss in terms known, so you can look up and see if application is there or to see if I am just talking out my neck.
Actually, I am not talking about WORDS that can be "looked up." But rather, sentence structure, which although different in different languages, ALWAYS follows RULES, that when relied upon, makes it easier to comprehend languages unfamiliar to us. There are similarities in ALL languages that make it possible to comprehend thought with only a basic understanding of words and structure.
Quote:
No! But ignorance is based on ....? well you pick the definition.
IMHO, it would be based on prejudice, apathy and conceit.
I am conceited. I am pissed off that in 1982 I wrote a piece that would have assisted understanding the brain and the response I got was rude, so I said screw the establishment and promised someday to return and shut these idiots up. My first postulate was that energy could be held at a rest state upon mass and be repropagated retaining its properties and it was not until the 90?s that this was proven in rubidium. So yes, I am a little ticked.
Well... for what it's worth, I've figured out how UFO's fly, and furthermore have incorporated that into a solution to the "Star Wars" defense shield problem faced by our country. But, no one is listening... and I'm JUST as ticked off as YOU are! See? While YOU were looking for Rubidium, I was looking for a solution to Mutually Assured Destruction. Oh... and BTW, I disagree with Einstein's theory of relativity concerning the impossibility of Time Travel. So what?
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I have to get ready for a big day, you know, like giving a little back as thanks for being alive.
This is a noble gesture, coming from an "enlightened one." Almost as noble as humility, and almost as useful as "understanding" and "accepting" those who might not yet share your opinions or knowledge.
My humility is what offered me this understanding. I geared myself to just please allow me to understand and I will work with every bit of my fiber to share someday. So everything towards this is within the absolute humbleness this bag of bones can muster, I beg daily to be able to just allow me the ability to convey what has been sought, forever, and the results will be that these new generations will have the chance you and I never did.
The end result WILL BE DEFINABLE within mathematical theorem before this is over. Please Sir, allow me the title ?the ultimate skeptic.? Either it is fact or it is not and although I may reference theology, (their interpretation) I offer mine and even though the empirical data has not been defined within scientific constraints until this closet case has specific tests conducted, the full scope will never be released in content inclusive of empirical data. So until then I will ruffle a few feathers until someone with some real horsepower takes up the cause and encircles me with quality people. The biggest problem so far most want the rights and that is a nil, this is for understanding and not monetary gain, period! I am the hammer when it comes to this. Nothing I have done is special, I have only read and exposed myself to possibilities and continue to use the questions and data from all over the world. Anyone could do what I have but most are caught up in ?what can it do for my pocket book? and I have never fallen under that spell!
Okay... I crown you "the ultimate skeptic!" I applaud, and share, your altruistic motives. But, given the topic of this thread, I have YET to understand your position. I have beliefs that extend beyond the scope of religious doctrine, but for the purpose of THIS discussion, I subjected myself to the discussion of Slimland's "stubborn" beliefs, AND based my argument on scriptural reference. I hate to tell you this, but until YOU can do the same, your empirical philosophy will most likely continue to fall on deaf ears. And unless you can learn to constrain your thoughts by linguistic principles, you will continue to sound like a prodigy of the acid generation.
My first postulate was proven and that was written when I was 16 years old when describing how the human brain works. Never has anyone ever been able to show me I am incorrect unless they fall to some of the ignorant ?principles of majority? and what has occurred so far this week is that I have a new direction in physics; address the particle/wave duality.
Bishadi: I understand where you are coming from. You are obviously very intelligent. Personally, I gave up on Physics AND Trig, when I realized I knew as much or more than the professors. I have decried that "lack of patience" ALL my life! Intelligence is like a loaded pistol. Without proper training and constraint, it will most DEFINITELY ruin the life of the one who PULLS the trigger!
And this one should clamp it all down with absolution.
I think you mean "absoluteness." Absolution is a biblical term meaning the "absolving" of guilt and responsibility.
Mabye, it's time for YOU to "look it up." See what I mean about how language guides conversation?
As for these items in theology, I have studied theology since I was a kid. All of the tribes of men have created scenarios but in an almost universal form, they convey such similarities of the compassion and love that should be among people (society) and even when describing the total (singularity/god) the properties or representations can be universally applied to properties of known physical forces such as energy/light.
From Rah to Jesus; light is life! It is so simple it is stupid and like a rock thrown into the pond; we do have an effect. All of us. We are in the image of the total in that we are the only thing that knows it exists with the capability to know the total; enlightenment.
We are One, kind Sir!
I once wrote: Happiness in knowing; once we are, we are One!
I understand the theory that light is life. But, are you saying that a life that outruns the speed of light can no longer exist? Personally, I don't believe that. The "consciousness" existed in darkness, before God said, "let there be light." Sometimes, knowledge is gained in the darkest moments or environs. There is nothing intrinsically enlightening about light! I do my best thinking in the dark! [BTW, a stone thrown in a pond will produce waves EVEN if there is no light by which to see them!] Also, the speed of Light is 186,000 miles per second. What if Angels can travel at 190k mps?? Are you saying that God, who created the Universe, has subjected himself AND his angels to the laws of the universe? Somehow... I doubt it!
Yes, Bishadi, kind Sir. We most likely ARE one. And I would wound you with no more intent than I would myself! But... I AM just a bit masochistic! So, guard yourself against me.
Hobo
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Like my best friend always says... "How many divots did you dig?" I wasn't really asking for, or expecting, an apology... but it is accepted.
No it wasn't, you are not even compatible. You still sit as if you have it all figured out.
I understand the theory that light is life. But, are you saying that a life that outruns the speed of light can no longer exist? Personally, I don't believe that. The "consciousness" existed in darkness, before God said, "let there be light." Sometimes, knowledge is gained in the darkest moments or environs. There is nothing intrinsically enlightening about light! I do my best thinking in the dark! [BTW, a stone thrown in a pond will produce waves EVEN if there is no light by which to see them!] Also, the speed of Light is 186,000 miles per second. What if Angels can travel at 190k mps?? Are you saying that God, who created the Universe, has subjected himself AND his angels to the laws of the universe? Somehow... I doubt it!
You really have no idea about anything in the physical nature of things as these answers tell me quite a bit.
Yes, Bishadi, kind Sir. We most likely ARE one. And I would wound you with no more intent than I would myself! But... I AM just a bit masochistic! So, guard yourself against me.
Hobo[/quote]
No need to. This post opened up your mind for me and I do not like what I see, my personal opinion. A man dropped in apology; you stepped on him. You have no idea what you are saying but you like the soap box.
Good luck with yourself.
Here is the part I could not post yesterday.
Your 15 minutes is up .... many to debate with and you don't need anything I could possibly offer you.
Good bye!
No it wasn't, you are not even compatible. You still sit as if you have it all figured out.
I understand the theory that light is life. But, are you saying that a life that outruns the speed of light can no longer exist? Personally, I don't believe that. The "consciousness" existed in darkness, before God said, "let there be light." Sometimes, knowledge is gained in the darkest moments or environs. There is nothing intrinsically enlightening about light! I do my best thinking in the dark! [BTW, a stone thrown in a pond will produce waves EVEN if there is no light by which to see them!] Also, the speed of Light is 186,000 miles per second. What if Angels can travel at 190k mps?? Are you saying that God, who created the Universe, has subjected himself AND his angels to the laws of the universe? Somehow... I doubt it!
You really have no idea about anything in the physical nature of things as these answers tell me quite a bit.
Yes, Bishadi, kind Sir. We most likely ARE one. And I would wound you with no more intent than I would myself! But... I AM just a bit masochistic! So, guard yourself against me.
Hobo[/quote]
No need to. This post opened up your mind for me and I do not like what I see, my personal opinion. A man dropped in apology; you stepped on him. You have no idea what you are saying but you like the soap box.
Good luck with yourself.
Here is the part I could not post yesterday.
Your 15 minutes is up .... many to debate with and you don't need anything I could possibly offer you.
Good bye!
#74
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Not touching that.Originally Posted by golfhobo
Bishadi does NOT like being considered one of "the guys" who he believes do not understand. He has paid good money to bring his "self acclaimed" knowledge to the world, and has designated himself as a "parent" and has little patience for those of us who don't immediately acknowledge him as having that level of experience, knowledge and authority.
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He means, "take it or leave it" concerning the TRUTH that HE has spoken, and he has allready given up on any of us "taking it." By his own words, he has stated that he doesn't CARE about OUR generation. He has given up on us. He thinks that, in due time, science will bear him out concerning the fact that God is not an entity, but rather a cosmic IDEA, and the next generation will figure it out, and save the World
Not touching that either ?. You see it perfectly but not a COSMIC IDEA, a framework or understanding that will comply not only with theology and define abilities such as prophecy (entanglement) but directly vindicate the words of the truly humble; our forefather?s theology. Try this; to know light is life and to know that no single energy or living thing can duplicate without giving up a portion of itself; we have a foundation. Nothing exists without this scope. So reverse the progression and see what happens.He means, "take it or leave it" concerning the TRUTH that HE has spoken, and he has allready given up on any of us "taking it." By his own words, he has stated that he doesn't CARE about OUR generation. He has given up on us. He thinks that, in due time, science will bear him out concerning the fact that God is not an entity, but rather a cosmic IDEA, and the next generation will figure it out, and save the World
There was a comment that when the truth be known; the father?s will raise to the flesh.
Well in this scope if you ?be? than say hello to your father?s, represent them well, kind Sir! Do not let then live within your own selfish demise, allow them to live forever in the foundations you create. Thank them within the mercy of associations. Be a support to the New creations you compile daily.
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And that, to REACH this level of consciousness, we must put aside all prejudices, arguments, wars, and hatred.... and learn to LOVE our fellow being becuase he IS NO LESS than ourselves.
All are equal at the level of consciousness but it is the self that removes the capacity to understand based on beliefs versus facts. It is why knowing to a monk is a quite different then knowing to most. And that, to REACH this level of consciousness, we must put aside all prejudices, arguments, wars, and hatred.... and learn to LOVE our fellow being becuase he IS NO LESS than ourselves.
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I'm not sure just WHAT promise he made.
To learn everything; from everyone; from every land; and share with little value to popular belief. I'm not sure just WHAT promise he made.
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And, (after confering with my dictionary of spiritualists,) I would NOT confer on him the mantle of "idiot." I am convinced that he is sincere in his beliefs and diligent in his pursuit of spiritual knowledge. I would ONLY advise him to guard against a conceited tongue, and an egotistical mind.
My bad! It comes from hating selfishness to the point of I prefer staying in a closet. These forums are as much of sharing as I do when it comes to my work and these gives me points of view that maybe I had not looked at but when it comes to someone suggesting a God on some thrown it immediately starts a combat against the selfishness that has poisoned a theology for a long long long long time.And, (after confering with my dictionary of spiritualists,) I would NOT confer on him the mantle of "idiot." I am convinced that he is sincere in his beliefs and diligent in his pursuit of spiritual knowledge. I would ONLY advise him to guard against a conceited tongue, and an egotistical mind.
That is not what GOD IS and in any description thereof of GOD if ever there is any single thing/entity or spiritual anything that shows EVIL OR ILL REGARD it is MAN/WOMAN?.
WE are that chooses. The laws are there. What that EVIL is, is when we abuse another for our own selfish gains. We separate without regard to another IMAGE OF GOD!
So YES, I am that direct but please do not ever think of me as not one of the guys, consider me like a biker type or truck driver type or any type you like that lives under a responsibility to my actions based on an understanding of compassion and care; of the scope that the total is taken into consideration versus my own needs. I am not first but to support the gang.
It is, WE are ONE. NOT I! And as part of ?US,? I will do everything with my existence to share the scope in total to our next generations, so that the ?I?s? of today will never have the power again!
Yes, SIR! I am that GUY! And yes SIR, it is only because of my humility have I ever been allowed to see. Nothing magical, no phenomena, nothing by GOD, unless the idea is; for the total!
You had your chance .... now go lay by your dish, boy!
#75
Bishadi:
Apparently, you skipped English Comprehension as WELL as Composition. Otherwise, you might have recognized that I was offering a form of apology myself!
But, I had you figured out after your first post or two. And, not yet having done any research on you, I gave you TOO much credit.
I'm not sure why Slimland invited you into a discussion on religious beliefs, or specific interpretations of Biblical passages, as I don't see where you have anything to offer to the TOPIC of this thread.
You say you have MANY more to debate, and my time is up? Fine. Good luck with THAT.
If anyone has ANY doubt as to my characterization of you, I'm sure they can come to their own conclusions after checking out THIS thread:
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopi...8a5f93e3eed781
Please be so kind, though, to let me know when you've published your revolutionary theory of "All life is EMR." (or whatever.)
I can't WAIT to read the 'reviews.'
The thing I hate MOST about dog food is that it all claims to be NEW and better.... but it pretty much all tastes the same.
Apparently, you skipped English Comprehension as WELL as Composition. Otherwise, you might have recognized that I was offering a form of apology myself!
But, I had you figured out after your first post or two. And, not yet having done any research on you, I gave you TOO much credit.
I'm not sure why Slimland invited you into a discussion on religious beliefs, or specific interpretations of Biblical passages, as I don't see where you have anything to offer to the TOPIC of this thread.
You say you have MANY more to debate, and my time is up? Fine. Good luck with THAT.
If anyone has ANY doubt as to my characterization of you, I'm sure they can come to their own conclusions after checking out THIS thread:
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopi...8a5f93e3eed781
Please be so kind, though, to let me know when you've published your revolutionary theory of "All life is EMR." (or whatever.)
I can't WAIT to read the 'reviews.'
The thing I hate MOST about dog food is that it all claims to be NEW and better.... but it pretty much all tastes the same.
#76
Ok guys I have a little time this evning but very little, my daughter is still hospitalized, but her devil mother is with her tonight. But she will be ok, her and her nurses have a code word.
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I understand the theory that light is life. But, are you saying that a life that outruns the speed of light can no longer exist? Personally, I don't believe that. The "consciousness" existed in darkness, before God said, "let there be light." Sometimes, knowledge is gained in the darkest moments or environs. There is nothing intrinsically enlightening about light! I do my best thinking in the dark! [BTW, a stone thrown in a pond will produce waves EVEN if there is no light by which to see them!] Also, the speed of Light is 186,000 miles per second. What if Angels can travel at 190k mps?? Are you saying that God, who created the Universe, has subjected himself AND his angels to the laws of the universe? Somehow... I doubt it!
Why would there be darkness, before light? Maybe it was just nothing but God, and then He said let there be light! And being everything has a psitive and a negative, so there was darkness also. And God knowing Good and Evil, because He created both. So though I am no scientist, it seems simple enough to me, that every thing is held up by Gods Word, and to bring this around, back to the main subject. God is Light and in Him is no darkness. Because maybe the darkness represents the Evil, and the evil in its purest form glorifies God. A posotive and a negative.I understand the theory that light is life. But, are you saying that a life that outruns the speed of light can no longer exist? Personally, I don't believe that. The "consciousness" existed in darkness, before God said, "let there be light." Sometimes, knowledge is gained in the darkest moments or environs. There is nothing intrinsically enlightening about light! I do my best thinking in the dark! [BTW, a stone thrown in a pond will produce waves EVEN if there is no light by which to see them!] Also, the speed of Light is 186,000 miles per second. What if Angels can travel at 190k mps?? Are you saying that God, who created the Universe, has subjected himself AND his angels to the laws of the universe? Somehow... I doubt it!
Darkness is to go against Gods Word!
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From Rah to Jesus; light is life! It is so simple it is stupid and like a rock thrown into the pond; we do have an effect. All of us. We are in the image of the total in that we are the only thing that knows it exists with the capability to know the total; enlightenment.
We are One, kind Sir!
I once wrote: Happiness in knowing; once we are, we are One!
[/quote]From Rah to Jesus; light is life! It is so simple it is stupid and like a rock thrown into the pond; we do have an effect. All of us. We are in the image of the total in that we are the only thing that knows it exists with the capability to know the total; enlightenment.
We are One, kind Sir!
I once wrote: Happiness in knowing; once we are, we are One!
What of those of the darkness?
Those fallen ones?
#79
Slimland,
I only returned because you had invited me and I did not want you mad at me for being an ?introvert.? Ha! Ha! I had admired your ability to see without being as rough as I usually am.
First ?? the Hobo guy is not at all familiar with physics so I am not interested in dealing in this manner. It is the same old same old. Debating from an old book.
Comprehending; Light is life! Did Hesus, say this or not? Is this in the old testament or not? Is this not the same thing the Upanishads, suggest? Is this not what Rah is represented as? The list is global.
So here our uncomprehending friend sees with his own eyes, a physics guys stating unequivocally that life is light upon molecular structures. Never in all of the scientific history has anyone ever said such a thing and to me it is basic common sense but like from many theological nuts, they can repeat jesus but have really no idea what it meant then or now.
The point is if you look into Daniel and revelations you will see that the next ?chapter? is to be based on Understanding and this understanding is that the physical sciences and theology are not so far off. Back then they could not describe what is being proposed. But they said the same thing.
I proved it in 1982 and have returned to make it final. The fact is that as soon as the world sees that what our forefathers have been saying all along is basically true and provable in real living sciences, which will finally set a universal Understanding that will finally bring all of the tribes of man together. In medicine alone all will apply to the knowledge; think.
And this HOBO is talking about comprehension.
Find anything I have ever written that is false, maybe boisterous, and I will pay 10k to any person with real scientific ability to prove me wrong but if they take on the bet and lose, then I own you for work towards bringing this to the public.
The snow ball is going to roll this taco stand and finally a single set of understanding will vindicate theology and the sciences in one full swoop and everything existing falls within the laws.
The ignorance of the hobo post for example is not from his intellect or God showing him anything. It is his selfishness to stay within a confinement that keeps his friends and associations based on beliefs. It has nothing to do with following God, in actuality enticing him to pursue the idea.
You for example are true to care and even though committed to God as defined in a book, you are honest and humble within (truly of God), and allowed the ideas to be heard and even to be shared, (why I am even here)? do you see the difference?
You are truly seeking in this context, the hobo is just using his smarts to combat and appear cool, but he is not seeking to learn, he is enjoying the battle. Typical instinctive characteristic but when he sees the truth and still debates without true form to seek answers he is then doing it for his ego as we can all see he love?s the soap box.
I do not or I would have a few Nobel?s sitting in the lime light and not be subjecting myself to ?those of the darkness.? Or guys who want nothing but to feel like they are something special.
I feel special in that I will fight for the little guy. I stand against oppression and this sect many are representing has oppressed more on this globe then Hitler, Saddam and any other tyrant this globe has ever known based on man?s corruption, not Jesus?.
jesus and mohammed are equal in my eyes; both offered compassion and care for their people, neither ever saw any book that states their story and both would roll over in their grave if they knew what was happening in their name.
Again it is not the prophets who corrupted these stories, it was man, ?the fallen ones.?
Think gentlemen. See history as it is and let go of complacency.
See that finally theology and the sciences are actually of the same God! It is man who is in error.
God or the total is NEVER EVER AN OUTLAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man is!
And so I will boast a bit; there is a new sheriff in town!
I only returned because you had invited me and I did not want you mad at me for being an ?introvert.? Ha! Ha! I had admired your ability to see without being as rough as I usually am.
First ?? the Hobo guy is not at all familiar with physics so I am not interested in dealing in this manner. It is the same old same old. Debating from an old book.
Comprehending; Light is life! Did Hesus, say this or not? Is this in the old testament or not? Is this not the same thing the Upanishads, suggest? Is this not what Rah is represented as? The list is global.
So here our uncomprehending friend sees with his own eyes, a physics guys stating unequivocally that life is light upon molecular structures. Never in all of the scientific history has anyone ever said such a thing and to me it is basic common sense but like from many theological nuts, they can repeat jesus but have really no idea what it meant then or now.
The point is if you look into Daniel and revelations you will see that the next ?chapter? is to be based on Understanding and this understanding is that the physical sciences and theology are not so far off. Back then they could not describe what is being proposed. But they said the same thing.
I proved it in 1982 and have returned to make it final. The fact is that as soon as the world sees that what our forefathers have been saying all along is basically true and provable in real living sciences, which will finally set a universal Understanding that will finally bring all of the tribes of man together. In medicine alone all will apply to the knowledge; think.
And this HOBO is talking about comprehension.
Find anything I have ever written that is false, maybe boisterous, and I will pay 10k to any person with real scientific ability to prove me wrong but if they take on the bet and lose, then I own you for work towards bringing this to the public.
The snow ball is going to roll this taco stand and finally a single set of understanding will vindicate theology and the sciences in one full swoop and everything existing falls within the laws.
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What of those of the darkness?
Those fallen ones?
The only thing bad is man/women?s selfishness. Every single anything evil ever in any book is of man/women and that is it.What of those of the darkness?
Those fallen ones?
The ignorance of the hobo post for example is not from his intellect or God showing him anything. It is his selfishness to stay within a confinement that keeps his friends and associations based on beliefs. It has nothing to do with following God, in actuality enticing him to pursue the idea.
You for example are true to care and even though committed to God as defined in a book, you are honest and humble within (truly of God), and allowed the ideas to be heard and even to be shared, (why I am even here)? do you see the difference?
You are truly seeking in this context, the hobo is just using his smarts to combat and appear cool, but he is not seeking to learn, he is enjoying the battle. Typical instinctive characteristic but when he sees the truth and still debates without true form to seek answers he is then doing it for his ego as we can all see he love?s the soap box.
I do not or I would have a few Nobel?s sitting in the lime light and not be subjecting myself to ?those of the darkness.? Or guys who want nothing but to feel like they are something special.
I feel special in that I will fight for the little guy. I stand against oppression and this sect many are representing has oppressed more on this globe then Hitler, Saddam and any other tyrant this globe has ever known based on man?s corruption, not Jesus?.
jesus and mohammed are equal in my eyes; both offered compassion and care for their people, neither ever saw any book that states their story and both would roll over in their grave if they knew what was happening in their name.
Again it is not the prophets who corrupted these stories, it was man, ?the fallen ones.?
Think gentlemen. See history as it is and let go of complacency.
See that finally theology and the sciences are actually of the same God! It is man who is in error.
God or the total is NEVER EVER AN OUTLAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man is!
And so I will boast a bit; there is a new sheriff in town!
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Bishadi wrote:
Slimland,
I only returned because you had invited me and I did not want you mad at me for being an ?introvert.? Ha! Ha! I had admired your ability to see without being as rough as I usually am.
Slimland can answer as he wills, but pardon me if I "chime in" (on my own thread) since so much here is intended to defame me.
First ?? the Hobo guy is not at all familiar with physics so I am not interested in dealing in this manner. It is the same old same old. Debating from an old book.
I'll admit it's been more than a few years since I was in school, but I AM familiar with the laws of Physics. I'm not saying I've studied them to the extent that you have, but then, this thread was not ABOUT Physics now WAS it?
Comprehending; Light is life! Did Hesus, say this or not? Is this in the old testament or not? Is this not the same thing the Upanishads, suggest? Is this not what Rah is represented as? The list is global.
Light is life?? Not exactly. I agree that life as WE know it uses light to flourish, but no... that is NOT what Jesus said, nor do I find it anywhere in either "testament" of the Bible. A fetus grows in the mother's womb without the help of light, as does a seed in the ground. What is said in the Bible is that, "God/Jesus is the light of the World." "That his LIFE is a LIGHT unto our paths." "That by walking in HIS light, we have (eternal) life." You seem to have transposed the two words, and totally missed the meaning of LIGHT as "understanding."
So here our uncomprehending friend sees with his own eyes, a physics guys [sic] stating unequivocally that life is light upon molecular structures. Never in all of the scientific history has anyone ever said such a thing and to me it is basic common sense.
So THIS is what you are stating 'unequivocally?' And NEVER has anyone like Einstein, Planck or other scientists EVER stumbled over this "common sense?" That they left it up to YOU to discover this? Possible... but not likely.
but like from many theological nuts, they can repeat jesus but have really no idea what it meant then or now.
Firstly, "I" am not the theological nut. With all due respect to him... that is kinda what I was saying about Slim. If you read the premise of this thread, you'd see that "I" am debating from THAT viewpoint for the purpose of discussion.
The point is if you look into Daniel and revelations you will see that the next ?chapter? is to be based on Understanding and this understanding is that the physical sciences and theology are not so far off. Back then they could not describe what is being proposed. But they said the same thing.
I don't disagree with this at all. On the "Big Bang" thread, I said that I don't find that theory and Creationsism as being mutually exclusive. I DO have a problem with the theory of Evolution of Man (from fish,) but not with Darwin's theory of evolution of (other) species, or the evolution of Man within it's OWN species - have you noticed the demise of the 22" waist on females lately?
I proved it in 1982 and have returned to make it final. The fact is that as soon as the world sees that what our forefathers have been saying all along is basically true and provable in real living sciences, which will finally set a universal Understanding that will finally bring all of the tribes of man together. In medicine alone all will apply to the knowledge; think.
I would really LOVE to read the paper you published in 1982. However, I'm not sure that even if some great truth is revealed by you or anyone else, concerning your "universal understanding," that all the tribes of man will EVER come together in the way you imagine. Think about THAT! And perhaps, set your sights a little lower.
And this HOBO is talking about comprehension.
Find anything I have ever written that is false, maybe boisterous, and I will pay 10k to any person with real scientific ability to prove me wrong but if they take on the bet and lose, then I own you for work towards bringing this to the public.
Yes... I've read all about your 10k challenge. In fact, I think I read some pretty good arguments proving much of what you theorize as being false. I'm not saying they were necessarily right, but like the old saying... "A billion Chinese can't all be wrong!"
The snow ball is going to roll this taco stand and finally a single set of understanding will vindicate theology and the sciences in one full [sic] swoop and everything existing falls within the laws.
Not sure if it will be YOUR snow ball, but not saying it won't. My point on this thread was that EVEN if what you say is true, and everything existing falls within the laws, God is NOT SUBJECT to those - or any other - laws. He allready exists outside of OUR known laws. And he is free to change the laws, reject the laws, or perform miracles that don't OBEY the laws.
So you are saying that Lucifer is OF MAN?? That's NOT what it says in most of those "books" you refer to.
The ignorance of the hobo post for example is not from his intellect or God showing him anything. It is his selfishness to stay within a confinement that keeps his friends and associations based on beliefs. It has nothing to do with following God, in actuality enticing him to pursue the idea.
I've allready explained that I CONFINED myself for the purpose of this discussion. You have NO idea what truths I may have been shown by God.
You for example are true to care and even though committed to God as defined in a book, you are honest and humble within (truly of God), and allowed the ideas to be heard and even to be shared, (why I am even here)? do you see the difference?
You are truly seeking in this context, the hobo is just using his smarts to combat and appear cool, but he is not seeking to learn, he is enjoying the battle. Typical instinctive characteristic but when he sees the truth and still debates without true form to seek answers he is then doing it for his ego as we can all see he love?s the soap box.
I don't know about a soap box, but I DO enjoy a good debate. I didn't start this thread necessarily to LEARN. You are correct. I saw my brother, Slimland talking himself into circles and drawing conclusions based on faulty assumptions (according to MY understanding) and I wanted to engage him in a discussion that MIGHT lead to useful understanding so that he might grow within the "trunk" of the word, and not be led onto a dead end branch from which he has to make a JUMP (or leap of faith) to another branch to get back to the trunk. I thought my "form" was pretty "true" to my Biblical understanding, and have YET to see any evidence that YOU are presenting any real, or unknown, truth that I am blind to.
I do not or I would have a few Nobel?s sitting in the lime light and not be subjecting myself to ?those of the darkness.? Or guys who want nothing but to feel like they are something special.
A few Nobels??? Right! I've read your posts on at least 6 other sites, and I know what you are about. If you try to tell me YOU are not looking for a soap box, I think I'll just puke! It is not "I" who have gone on multiple websites trying to argue and berate every other member into submission. I stayed out of Slims religious discussions on THIS site until I just couldn't be silent anymore. I came down a little HARD on you here, SIMPLY because you were unable to present your theories in a way that average people could, or would even CARE to, understand. AND because you "slammed" Shykatt on your way in!
I feel special in that I will fight for the little guy. I stand against oppression and this sect many are representing has oppressed more on this globe then Hitler, Saddam and any other tyrant this globe has ever known based on man?s corruption, not Jesus?.
I saw NO evidence on any other site you've been on, that you were fighting for the little man. If, indeed, you want to stand up for those who would rather NOT be subjected to the carnage wrought on this Earth by religious dictators, that's fine! You will find a friend in Fozzy (as well as myself!) But... that is, or should be... a different thread.
jesus and mohammed are equal in my eyes; both offered compassion and care for their people, neither ever saw any book that states their story and both would roll over in their grave if they knew what was happening in their name.
For the sake of argument here, Christians do NOT believe that Jesus was just a prophet. NOr do they believe he is still IN his grave (to roll over.) Fact is, they believe Jesus has risen and is alive and most definitely IS upset about what is happening. Mohammed, on the other hand, is rotting in his MORTAL grave.
Again it is not the prophets who corrupted these stories, it was man, ?the fallen ones.?
I'm not sure MAN is the "fallen ones" that Slimland refers to. And, BTW, the prophets most certainly MIGHT have corrupted the "stories" they told. They may have been inspired, or given visions, but - like you - they were constrained by their knowledge (or lack thereof) of the language.
Think gentlemen. See history as it is and let go of complacency.
See that finally theology and the sciences are actually of the same God! It is man who is in error.
I DO and I HAVE! And I have NO problem understanding or accepting that theology and science are of the same God.
God or the total is NEVER EVER AN OUTLAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man is!
I allready explained that I was looking for a "catchy" phrase with which to title this thread. I didn't mean to say that God was an OUTLAW, but only that he is NOT subject to his OWN laws... if he don't WANT to be! It's called "poetic license." If, as you claim in all your profiles, you were actually a "Writer," you'd know that!
And so I will boast a bit; there is a new sheriff in town!
Yeah... I SAW 48 HOURS, and you ain't no Reggie Hammond!
Hobo
Slimland,
I only returned because you had invited me and I did not want you mad at me for being an ?introvert.? Ha! Ha! I had admired your ability to see without being as rough as I usually am.
Slimland can answer as he wills, but pardon me if I "chime in" (on my own thread) since so much here is intended to defame me.
First ?? the Hobo guy is not at all familiar with physics so I am not interested in dealing in this manner. It is the same old same old. Debating from an old book.
I'll admit it's been more than a few years since I was in school, but I AM familiar with the laws of Physics. I'm not saying I've studied them to the extent that you have, but then, this thread was not ABOUT Physics now WAS it?
Comprehending; Light is life! Did Hesus, say this or not? Is this in the old testament or not? Is this not the same thing the Upanishads, suggest? Is this not what Rah is represented as? The list is global.
Light is life?? Not exactly. I agree that life as WE know it uses light to flourish, but no... that is NOT what Jesus said, nor do I find it anywhere in either "testament" of the Bible. A fetus grows in the mother's womb without the help of light, as does a seed in the ground. What is said in the Bible is that, "God/Jesus is the light of the World." "That his LIFE is a LIGHT unto our paths." "That by walking in HIS light, we have (eternal) life." You seem to have transposed the two words, and totally missed the meaning of LIGHT as "understanding."
So here our uncomprehending friend sees with his own eyes, a physics guys [sic] stating unequivocally that life is light upon molecular structures. Never in all of the scientific history has anyone ever said such a thing and to me it is basic common sense.
So THIS is what you are stating 'unequivocally?' And NEVER has anyone like Einstein, Planck or other scientists EVER stumbled over this "common sense?" That they left it up to YOU to discover this? Possible... but not likely.
but like from many theological nuts, they can repeat jesus but have really no idea what it meant then or now.
Firstly, "I" am not the theological nut. With all due respect to him... that is kinda what I was saying about Slim. If you read the premise of this thread, you'd see that "I" am debating from THAT viewpoint for the purpose of discussion.
The point is if you look into Daniel and revelations you will see that the next ?chapter? is to be based on Understanding and this understanding is that the physical sciences and theology are not so far off. Back then they could not describe what is being proposed. But they said the same thing.
I don't disagree with this at all. On the "Big Bang" thread, I said that I don't find that theory and Creationsism as being mutually exclusive. I DO have a problem with the theory of Evolution of Man (from fish,) but not with Darwin's theory of evolution of (other) species, or the evolution of Man within it's OWN species - have you noticed the demise of the 22" waist on females lately?
I proved it in 1982 and have returned to make it final. The fact is that as soon as the world sees that what our forefathers have been saying all along is basically true and provable in real living sciences, which will finally set a universal Understanding that will finally bring all of the tribes of man together. In medicine alone all will apply to the knowledge; think.
I would really LOVE to read the paper you published in 1982. However, I'm not sure that even if some great truth is revealed by you or anyone else, concerning your "universal understanding," that all the tribes of man will EVER come together in the way you imagine. Think about THAT! And perhaps, set your sights a little lower.
And this HOBO is talking about comprehension.
Find anything I have ever written that is false, maybe boisterous, and I will pay 10k to any person with real scientific ability to prove me wrong but if they take on the bet and lose, then I own you for work towards bringing this to the public.
Yes... I've read all about your 10k challenge. In fact, I think I read some pretty good arguments proving much of what you theorize as being false. I'm not saying they were necessarily right, but like the old saying... "A billion Chinese can't all be wrong!"
The snow ball is going to roll this taco stand and finally a single set of understanding will vindicate theology and the sciences in one full [sic] swoop and everything existing falls within the laws.
Not sure if it will be YOUR snow ball, but not saying it won't. My point on this thread was that EVEN if what you say is true, and everything existing falls within the laws, God is NOT SUBJECT to those - or any other - laws. He allready exists outside of OUR known laws. And he is free to change the laws, reject the laws, or perform miracles that don't OBEY the laws.
Quote:
What of those of the darkness?
Those fallen ones?
The only thing bad is man/women?s selfishness. Every single anything evil ever in any book is of man/women and that is it.What of those of the darkness?
Those fallen ones?
So you are saying that Lucifer is OF MAN?? That's NOT what it says in most of those "books" you refer to.
The ignorance of the hobo post for example is not from his intellect or God showing him anything. It is his selfishness to stay within a confinement that keeps his friends and associations based on beliefs. It has nothing to do with following God, in actuality enticing him to pursue the idea.
I've allready explained that I CONFINED myself for the purpose of this discussion. You have NO idea what truths I may have been shown by God.
You for example are true to care and even though committed to God as defined in a book, you are honest and humble within (truly of God), and allowed the ideas to be heard and even to be shared, (why I am even here)? do you see the difference?
You are truly seeking in this context, the hobo is just using his smarts to combat and appear cool, but he is not seeking to learn, he is enjoying the battle. Typical instinctive characteristic but when he sees the truth and still debates without true form to seek answers he is then doing it for his ego as we can all see he love?s the soap box.
I don't know about a soap box, but I DO enjoy a good debate. I didn't start this thread necessarily to LEARN. You are correct. I saw my brother, Slimland talking himself into circles and drawing conclusions based on faulty assumptions (according to MY understanding) and I wanted to engage him in a discussion that MIGHT lead to useful understanding so that he might grow within the "trunk" of the word, and not be led onto a dead end branch from which he has to make a JUMP (or leap of faith) to another branch to get back to the trunk. I thought my "form" was pretty "true" to my Biblical understanding, and have YET to see any evidence that YOU are presenting any real, or unknown, truth that I am blind to.
I do not or I would have a few Nobel?s sitting in the lime light and not be subjecting myself to ?those of the darkness.? Or guys who want nothing but to feel like they are something special.
A few Nobels??? Right! I've read your posts on at least 6 other sites, and I know what you are about. If you try to tell me YOU are not looking for a soap box, I think I'll just puke! It is not "I" who have gone on multiple websites trying to argue and berate every other member into submission. I stayed out of Slims religious discussions on THIS site until I just couldn't be silent anymore. I came down a little HARD on you here, SIMPLY because you were unable to present your theories in a way that average people could, or would even CARE to, understand. AND because you "slammed" Shykatt on your way in!
I feel special in that I will fight for the little guy. I stand against oppression and this sect many are representing has oppressed more on this globe then Hitler, Saddam and any other tyrant this globe has ever known based on man?s corruption, not Jesus?.
I saw NO evidence on any other site you've been on, that you were fighting for the little man. If, indeed, you want to stand up for those who would rather NOT be subjected to the carnage wrought on this Earth by religious dictators, that's fine! You will find a friend in Fozzy (as well as myself!) But... that is, or should be... a different thread.
jesus and mohammed are equal in my eyes; both offered compassion and care for their people, neither ever saw any book that states their story and both would roll over in their grave if they knew what was happening in their name.
For the sake of argument here, Christians do NOT believe that Jesus was just a prophet. NOr do they believe he is still IN his grave (to roll over.) Fact is, they believe Jesus has risen and is alive and most definitely IS upset about what is happening. Mohammed, on the other hand, is rotting in his MORTAL grave.
Again it is not the prophets who corrupted these stories, it was man, ?the fallen ones.?
I'm not sure MAN is the "fallen ones" that Slimland refers to. And, BTW, the prophets most certainly MIGHT have corrupted the "stories" they told. They may have been inspired, or given visions, but - like you - they were constrained by their knowledge (or lack thereof) of the language.
Think gentlemen. See history as it is and let go of complacency.
See that finally theology and the sciences are actually of the same God! It is man who is in error.
I DO and I HAVE! And I have NO problem understanding or accepting that theology and science are of the same God.
God or the total is NEVER EVER AN OUTLAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man is!
I allready explained that I was looking for a "catchy" phrase with which to title this thread. I didn't mean to say that God was an OUTLAW, but only that he is NOT subject to his OWN laws... if he don't WANT to be! It's called "poetic license." If, as you claim in all your profiles, you were actually a "Writer," you'd know that!
And so I will boast a bit; there is a new sheriff in town!
Yeah... I SAW 48 HOURS, and you ain't no Reggie Hammond!
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