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    Default consignee can't offload....what would you do?

    Our truck arrives at consignee with heavy vehicle onboard and the vehicle won't start therefore cannot be offloaded. Our truck has been there most of the day and will probably extend into tomorrow. Spoke to broker and they say it's a negotiation with the customer and there is no set rate for detention.

    advice?

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    Get the receiver to pay for a flatbed with a winch to roll the vehicle off onto. We do this all the time in HHG with vehicles that either won't start, or have too low of a clearance to roll off on ramps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
    Get the receiver to pay for a flatbed with a winch to roll the vehicle off onto. We do this all the time in HHG with vehicles that either won't start, or have too low of a clearance to roll off on ramps.
    thanks Rev. Darn thing had spring brakes and was too low to get under and use a caging tool. Anyway it finally started 4.5 hours later. What do you guys charge for detention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rank
    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
    Get the receiver to pay for a flatbed with a winch to roll the vehicle off onto. We do this all the time in HHG with vehicles that either won't start, or have too low of a clearance to roll off on ramps.
    thanks Rev. Darn thing had spring brakes and was too low to get under and use a caging tool. Anyway it finally started 4.5 hours later. What do you guys charge for detention?
    You need to decide what's it worth to you. How much do you figure you lost having the truck sit for 5 hours. Did the truck get loaded today, or does it have to wait until tomorrow. If I had to burn up my whole day, I'd be looking for at least $200 bucks.

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    If he is a O/O he day is worth alot more then 200bucks.
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    no crane or ramps to roll it off?

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    thanks Rev. Darn thing had spring brakes and was too low to get under and use a caging tool. Anyway it finally started 4.5 hours later. What do you guys charge for detention?
    For me, detention starts after 2 hours, and depends upon the contract. Usually it runs around $85 an hour for the truck, and $85 an hour for the driver.

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    Yeah we missed repositioning some of our own product that can only be loaded during the day. That cost us 200 miles and about 5 hours time. We also could have delivered some product that would have netted $2,800 but that is really only delayed until next year...not lost completely. They ain't going to pay that amount anyway. I was thinking we'd be lucky to get $50/hr out of them.

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    My detention comes out to about 80/hr.

    Now, if I have a crew, lets say 2 guys with me, I think I get paid like $25-27/hr, PER man. Again, this is when 2 hrs go up. I rarely get detention time, because I plan around a customer's schedule. I've began unloading at 8p- midnight one time

    As far as the stuck (non-rnning vehicle), the slouion was simple. Back up to a REALLY sturdy structure such as a small tin shed or child's swingset and tie a chain to the structure and vehicle, then drive off! 8)
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    A rollback works pretty well in this type of situation. It is the responsibility of the receiver to have something available to unload you.

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    They couldn't pull it off because the brakes were on. The vehicle had air brakes and the engine needed to be running to get the spring brakes to release. Couldn't get at the brake chambers to uncage the springs because the vehicle sat too low. They eventually got it started by using ether. Took 4.5 hours to get unloaded. The broker gave us 2.5 hours detention at $30/hr.

    That's not very much but it was more than I was expecting. First time collecting detention. Maybe I should get a stamp that lists my detention and truck not used rates and stamp the rate sheets before I fax them back.

    Thanks for the replies.

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    Default Re: consignee can't offload....what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by rank
    Our truck arrives at consignee with heavy vehicle onboard and the vehicle won't start therefore cannot be offloaded. Our truck has been there most of the day and will probably extend into tomorrow.

    advice?
    Lower trailer onto floor, unhitch, take unit around to the side. Jack up vehicle that you want to unload on one side only and support with timber. Attach 30ft of wire rope to front of unit and secure to lower side of jacked up vehicle,as high up as you can.. Engage diff locks, reverse and pull the sod off!
    Hey Presto! ..... Can you sign for this just here mate?......





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    Default Re: consignee can't offload....what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by wot i life
    Quote Originally Posted by rank
    Our truck arrives at consignee with heavy vehicle onboard and the vehicle won't start therefore cannot be offloaded. Our truck has been there most of the day and will probably extend into tomorrow.

    advice?
    Lower trailer onto floor, unhitch, take unit around to the side. Jack up vehicle that you want to unload on one side only and support with timber. Attach 30ft of wire rope to front of unit and secure to lower side of jacked up vehicle,as high up as you can.. Engage diff locks, reverse and pull the sod off!
    Hey Presto! ..... Can you sign for this just here mate?......






    Only joking
    Now Wot I have seen that happen before
    Yeehaw.

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    Default Re: consignee can't offload....what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by NascarFan

    Now Wot I have seen that happen before
    Way and means eh? ways and means

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    Be happy with any detention pay. Since its not built into the load confirmation that you signed, you legally cannot charge anything. If you had it in writing then you have a foot to stand on. Your transaction is between the broker and yourself. Since you have no legal grounds with the reciever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackman
    If he is a O/O he day is worth alot more then 200bucks.
    I understand that fully, but try telling that to a company. It's like pulling teeth to get anything out of these places.

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