Carrying a gun on the Truck
 

Im sure this has been rehashed but I thought to get this going.

When will they allow us to carry a gun on the truck so we can protect ourselves on the road? It's really weird how most concealed carry laws allow for citizens to carry in their vehicles but we cant. I know their is no federal law barring us from it but the local state laws do, as well as your company.

Isn't it our constitutional rights to protect ourselves with a gun? I know the founding fathers didn't have in mind motor vehicles but common sense would suggest that we be allowed to.

That said, I know their are many drivers that probably carry and have a chance to be jailed because of it. Since when do we get jailed for trying to protect ourselves? What kind of liberal twilight zone are we in?

Im so sick of people whining about gun control, trying to take away our constitutional rights, just because they think guns are 'scary'. Do these people read history? This country was founded upon the idea of protecting yourself from tyrannical government and enemies.

I know this could spawn a different discussion but isn't it about time for it? When will our constitution be upheld again? These people need to wake up! If you want to stop people from committing crimes, Get the criminals!! Dont take away legal citizens rights to bare arms, as allowed by the constitution, and the right to protect yourself from God himself. Ill be darned if Im gonna roll over for criminals to do what they will with me. Thats not the America I was born in.

I think its funny how people have voted or in other ways inacted all these laws against guns. I know that it makes them feel safe but my ? is this. IF someone is going to hold up a bank or kill someone do you really think that they care if the gun is legal or not?

two of my favorite quotes

"I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six"

"take away guns and only criminals will be armed"

thats my .02

Well, I'm afraid my vote goes against carrying a firearm in a CMV. Back in about 2000, in Indiana, several CB RAMBO's were having at it. You know the routine... "PULL IT OVER RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL SHOW YOU" The guy that pulled it over (I think it was Covenant) did so to relieve some bladder pressure. He knew nothing about any rambos. North American pulled it over right behind him, got out and crossed to the shoulder... And put two 9-MM slugs into Covenant's driver's chest, then got back into his truck and left. That happened about the 60 mile marker, or so. The police caught up with North American at about the 120 mile marker. Covenant was flown to the hospital by chopper.

If they allow guns in CMV's, who do you suppose is going to be the first to arm themselves? And, what do you suppose those RAMBOs are going to do with them? NO GUNS IN TRUCKS!!!!!

There are enough other alternatives that you DO NOT NEED ONE THAT BAD.

By your logic wouldn't it make more sense to say NO CB's IN TRUCKS!!

Well, if you've ever pulled an oversize load with an escort, you know that the CB is an essential part of your equipment. But, since XM radio has come on the scene, the CB may become obsolete soon. Very few drivers are listening to the CB anymore. Won't take long and they won't even have one in the truck. So, it may already be going in that direction.

How many times have you been in a traffic back-up and heard some guy on the radio say that he "just turned it on, and what's the holdup?"

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...and if Covenant driver had one maybe Mr North American would have 2 slugs in his chest.

Haven't you ever heard of the saying "If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns"??

Guns aren't outlawed they just have no place in a truck. If you would scroll down in this section or do a search this has been discussed in length.

Most companies have a no tolerance policy for guns aboard trucks. Also don't even think about crossing the border with one aboard. Canada also has a no tolerance policy....you could find yourself in a square room that isn't going to be nearly as nice as you think. :shock:

postal workers go into bad neighborhoods, they should have guns too

only problem is, that pesky 2nd amendment gets in the way. sure the founding fathers didnt plan on us driving vehicles but its obvious non the less. i can protect myself at home with a gun, or in my car, why not on the road where its exponentially more dangerous?

Ive been to places that would warrant an ak47 for protection. Maybe a special course for drivers to go thru to help them understand precausions, but if a US senator can have armed bodyguards, why cant I have my ole buddy Ruger backing me up?

[quote="Rob_0126"]only problem is, that pesky 2nd amendment gets in the way. sure the founding fathers didnt plan on us driving vehicles but its obvious non the less. i can protect myself at home with a gun, or in my car, why not on the road where its exponentially more dangerous?

Ive been to places that would warrant an ak47 for protection. Maybe a special course for drivers to go thru to help them understand precausions, but if a US senator can have armed bodyguards, why cant I have my ole buddy Ruger backing me up?[/quote


Because he is a government worker (pun on words) and exempts himself from laws for the commoners. The UN is pushing hard right now to outlaw guns worldwide. It may be illegal for you to even own a gun in the U.S. shortly, even in your own home. :evil:

I'm still trying to figure out if you are that scared behind the wheel of an 80,000 lb weapon why exactly are you doing this job?

You can't carry one for the simple fact the laws are different in every state and you are to abide by the laws of the state you are traveling in. :roll:

We have been down this road how many times....no you can't have one. If you a company drive what are your rules? If you are caught you will more and likely be fired. Do you just have trouble following the rules? :shock:

Difference between home & the road. Home you are stationary not going anywhere lived by the rules of the state, city or county. Trucking you are moving...it's a no no just live with it. It's just like the hours we are now limited to drive....it's a rule. DO IT!

First off, I dont consider my 80000 lb truck to be a weapon and would not use it as such.

It's very easy to get into a truck while someone is sleeping, which is why a gun would be good close by your bed. Having a gun with you has nothing to do with 'manhood'. Only a fool would think he can take on any kind of threat with strength alone. The obvious scenarios abound and Im sure I dont need to give you any.

2nd, since the laws vary from state to state, it needs to be a federal thing for us to carry since we are under federal jurisdiction anyways.

I do not have trouble following the rules. However, when the rules trump the rights abided by me in the constitution, yeh, it 'urks' me quite a bit. NO job is worth my life, period!

And dont sit here and lecture me on rules following. I do my job by following the rules. As a matter of fact, the American public by large is the only group in the US to actually follow the rules, that lawmakers that break them, made for us.

Travelling from state to state warrants some kind of protection BECAUSE we are travelling in unknown areas. It's stupid to think that we are safer in a truck, than our own home.

Yeh, this will never happen. If the UN ever managed to pass something like that, name one American that would actually give up their firearm?

Can you not hear/feel when someone has step on your first step of the truck? I can feel the truck shift. I drive team and if we should find ourselves parked he can tell when someone has bumped into the truck. Guess we are geared to listening for certain things.

I have never been that afraid to carry a gun in the truck. I carry a baseball bat on some occassions through a truckstop alone but most of the time not.

Where are you exactly traveling state to state that warrants a gun? I've been in some pretty seedy places over the years but never thought about carrying a gun.

Just so you know....I'm before the glorious "federal CDL plan" so I don't care for them to be anymore involved in my livelhood than they already are.

It has become increasingly difficult for law abiding citizens to protect themselves. I no longer carry a gun with me because of the reasons Bush Bunny stated. You cannot possibly comply with the laws of every jurisdiction in which you travel. There are some crazy laws on the books in some states, such as New York, Massachusetts, etc., You see, they don't recognize the U.S. Constitution. They make their own rules. In addition, if you enter a military reservation, you could also be charged and convicted of weapons charges. I know of a couple of instances where this has happened. Crossing the Canadian border could land you in prison, a big fine and you could lose your truck. It just isn't worth it until laws are changed. There are also some crazy people out here with a CDL. They have no respect for themselves or anyone else out here. Just listen to the CB. :?

Ok forget carrying legally.

Could you hide it somewhere in the cab? I mean if I was delivering goods to south Chicago all the time I'd say to hell with the laws a and have a small pistol on board.

After all sitting in a square room is better than laying in a square box ;)

I can't say that you can put a gun anywhere legally in your truck. There may be places where a gun would not readily be found, unless searched. You will need to check all jurisdictions to see what the laws are in those areas. You will still be taking a chance.

If I were delivering goods in south Chicago all the time, I'd find a different job. And FAST!!!

By using "paint ball technolgy" you could build a device to shoot razor darts, or something.


I cant believe I said that...

but safety is important,and it should be understood and encourged.

The rules that some of you are talking about is the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. The Federal, State and Local Government are the ones not following the rule. For those of you who advocate "carrying a bat," if you check out all of those laws you will find you are breaking a number of them unless you are on your way to or from a baseball game. In this day of post 9/11 carrying a firearm should be mandatory.

There were also laws that blacks and women couldnt vote. When times change sometimes the law changes. If carrying a gun was mandatory I would have killed at least 2 people today.

We are not talking about a law, we are talking about the Constitution. Those laws were in contridiction the the Consitution and were struck down. There is a diference. If you can't countrol yourself, don't carry a firearm. But why interfer with my ability to carry one? If you wanted to kill someone today why didn't you pick up a bat and bash their heads in. A bat is a tool, is an inanimate object, just like a gun.

didnt have a bat

I think law-abiding citizens should be able to carry a concealed weapon. Thats the law now and I think it is good the way it is. You make it sound like just anyone should be able to buy an uzi at 7-11 and wave it in the air.

No, I don't. The Constitution says: "the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I can both read and understand it. Any deviation from what it plainly says is unconstitutional. You are the one who said you would have killed two people today if you had a gun. I believe in responsible ownership. If you have these irresistable urges to kill people due to a lack of self control I think you are wise not to carry a firearm. You also might consider not drive a vehicle of any type because they can, potentially, kill many more people than a firearm can.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

I don't see where trucking is a well regulated militia.....

Because you don't understand the meaning of the words used two hundred years ago. It means the people, truck drivers are people. You are part of the Militia. Everyone of us are. If you are not ready to step up and defend your country, well, I for one don't see you as a real citizen, just a feeloader. Just my opinion.

After spending 20 years in the Navy I can say I have stood and defended this country. And still I dont' want everyone walking around carrying firearms.

Another option is to buy a fake gun off the web. It's legal and there is no way for someone to tell if it's real or not. I have a Para Ordinance 45 and I bought a fake one off the web and it's identical.

Now that is a good way to get yourself killed!

As opposed to having a real gun?

That is correct. Why are you so fearful of an inanimate object. It is no different having a gun, a bat, a rock or driving a truck. If a person wants to kill someone they will. More people can be killed driving a truck into a crowd than with a firearm. This unreasoning fear is what I don't understand.

I really don't think having a fake gun in a truck is a good idea at all. Think back a few years. How many kids got shot by cops because of a toy gun? In a back alley, in near darkness, a cop sees someone with a gun and shoots. Then finds out it was a kid with a water pistol. I remember that happening quite a few times before they started putting those blaze-orange tips on the barrels. And cops are not the only ones that will mistake it. Suppose the person you're looking at has a REAL one?

If you are soooo afraid and need a gun in the truck. Maybe you shouldn't be on the road. Stay home and run UPS FEDEX DHL deliveries.

Another option is to buy a fake gun off the web. It's legal and there is no way for someone to tell if it's real or not.

Might be legal but if You point it at someone by law it's considered a Actual Firearm.

As usual, more made up laws. NOT TRUE....Lets see you quote a law stating your claim? Little kids would be put in jail left and right for playing army with fake guns. It is not against the law to hold, carry or point a fake gun...period!

You are giving up your responsibility as an American Citizen who you can't protect yourself and your fellow Americans. Especially, in this day and age of post 9/11 when there are know plots to use trucks in terrorist attacks to kill Americans. No one has explained your fear of a gun. If you choose not to carry, fine. Why interfer with my right to carry?

If you point a fake gun at someone with a real gun, im pretty sure their within their right to shoot you.

I believe you'll find that it's covered from the point of "preception". Just like "sexual harrassment", if the offended party feels it is harrassment, then, it's harrassment. If you point a gun at someone, and they feel threatened because they think it's real, you're in trouble.

A few years ago, my daughter was in a car with other kids. They stopped at a SHOPCO and bought a little BB gun. It looked real enough. But they took it out of the box while driving around town. The next thing they knew, there were more than 20 squad cars zeroed in on them. OUT OF THE CAR, FACE DOWN ON THE GROUND, AND SPREAD 'EM WIDE!!! My daughter says that with more than twenty guns pointed at them, she was praying that the breeze didn't even move her hair. One wrong move and the cops would have started shooting.

Now, would you like to die because of a fake gun that LOOKS real?????