That was not Yoopr. That was ME!!!!

And, I'm 61... Does that count?????

yoopr--You did post this on the other concealed weapon topic.--
"It's been argued on here forever on other posts and You're right. I'm Definitely against Gun Control but when it comes to carrying while driving Trucks it's a No Brainer. Just listen to the CB late at night. I wouldn't want these guys carrying a weapon."

Of course you can't prevent anyone from carrying but you sure do like to argue and make sly comments. Is that what a moderator does?


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Yes it was. Yoopr quoted you without giving you credit. I took it as his words. This is not a pissing contest about who is older, there will always be someone older, bigger, smarter.... I was just establishing I wasn't a young pup. While I have been around firearms since I was a young boy, my exposure to firearms in latter years has been quite extensive. I probably handle more firearms in a months time than most will in their entire lives.

Handling firearms is one thing. Target shooting and hunting are fine. But, when you're talking about carrying one in order to protect yourself, it means the possibillity of shooting another human being. Ever have to do that? One second's hesitation, and you could be very dead. Then, if you MISSINTURPRET someone's intentions, you could find yourself in a whole lot of hot water. Carrying might be fine in your home state, but use it in another state and it could be a very long time before you get home again. Also, check Federal Regs about carrying any firearm in a CMV.

"Also, check Federal Regs about carrying any firearm in a CMV."

Please point me in the right direction. Anyone? Once you look and you get tired of looking, realize, that there are no Federal restrictions.

Sorry but that Wasn't ME that said that-I remember when it was said and It wasn't me-Try Again :roll:

No it wasn't AGAIN and no you haven't been around firearms longer than me AND I know you're new here but when you use the quote feature you don't give credit to someone you're replying to.
I was quoting Windwalker-You were caught putting words in my mouth.
Have no clue why you think I'm "Not much older than you" seeing that i've posted many times that I started driving in "78
Sometimes I copy and paste when replying to someone

This is what I said:
"It's been argued on here forever on other posts and You're right. I'm Definitely against Gun Control but when it comes to carrying while driving Trucks it's a No Brainer. Just listen to the CB late at night. I wouldn't want these guys carrying a weapon."

This is hardly trying to prevent someone from carrying-IF you read what i'm saying is These CB Rambo's I don't want to have a weapon within a mile of them.
Wanna carry a weapon-Go for it-If the DOT inspects your truck don't be shocked and Awed if things don't go well for you while you're reciteing your gun rights.

Again, no reference to what law I would be breaking. Sure, they might arrest me, but if I am breaking no law I will win.

Sorry I tried to put my responses in red, it didn't work.

I'm sure they'll let you know

I've never had reason to look it up in Fed Regs, but the Regs vary from one state to the next. Can you recite the Regs for every state you will be going through? Or do you have a Federal Permit, like an FBI agent or a U S MARSHALL, to cover you carrying in any state in the country? Some states, not sure but I think VA is one of them, require that you register your weapons before you enter the state when transporting them through the state. Fail to do that, and it will take you much more time to get out of the state than it did to get in. I think OH has something like that too. In the last 2 1/2 years, my truck has been searched by DOT on 3 ocassions. That's not counting the times it was searched crossing into Canada. You don't get to see what they are looking into. You get to stand behind the truck with one officer, while 2 or 3 are going through the tractor. Do you want to be carrying when they are doing that? To give you an idea just how thorough they are, they found a toll ticket from back in 2002. I didn't even own the truck back then. And, I thought I had it completely cleaned out of everything before I put my things in. I have no idea where they found it. If they can find that, try to hide a weapon.

I know there are guys that carry. My brother-in-law was one that did. He got a wake-up call one day. They didn't find it, but he stopped carrying. He says "NEVER AGAIN". He doesn't feel like sweating it out again while they're going through his truck.

At one time, I did carry a SIGNAL LAUNCHER. I don't do that anymore. At one time, I carried my USMC KABAR... Don't do that anymore either. Now, I carry a hammer and screwdriver. I even get into Canada with them. Even talked to Canadian Customs about how they can be used as weapons, but as long as their laws do not identify them as weapons, it's okay. Do what you want, but be aware of what can happen if anything is discovered.

As an FFL I am issued all Federal and State firearms laws by the BATFE. As an aspiring trucker I have read the FMCSA. I personally have found no law prohibiting carrying a firearm on a CMV. I have read post from others on forums specializing in firearms who have completed an even more exhaustive search than I have, they, uniformaly have reported no such law. There are laws prohibiting carrying firearms into certain States or locations, such as within 1,000 feet of a school. They do not distinguish between a CMV and any other vehicle.

"An armed society is a polite society."

Thomas Jefferson

Yooper, I did not resurrect this thread. 8)

This a great thread. I've been wondering how company drivers dealth with the issues of carrying a firearm on a company truck. I think that your life is more important than company rules. I remember working as a security guard at a seed hotel, my company wouldn't allow me to have a firearm, but I knew how drug and thug infested the area was, so I armed myself with a nice Browning HI Power, that I used to scare off a group thugs that wanted to jump me. I'm going to check what states give reciprocity to my GA CCW permit, so that I will know which states I can legally carry. And if needed I will try to obtain a second CCW permit in a state that will give me reciprocity in states that my GA CCW does not.

Owning a firearm is similar to preventative maintainance; we do not go to the doctor because we are currenty sick, instead, we go to the doctor to prevent illness. Gun ownership is similar. We own guns so that we will be prepared for situations where we will need to use deadly force. We go to the range to make sure that we can hit our target, we read and study all sort of media on using a gun in combat, so that we will be able to handle the stress of having to use a gun, we read federal and state laws, so that we will know the legality of carrying.

Criminals do not care about any of the above, and all of the so-called gun control laws only make it more difficult for honest citizens to purchase a gun. My last gun purchase had me filling out all sort of paper work, and running to the dmv just to by a frickin gun. The owner of the gun shop laughed that a criminal wouldn't spend all this time buying a gun; he would have robbed 10 ppl by the time I walked out of the gun shop, and he was right. Straight edged me had to go through all sort of red tape to legall purchase a weapon, while criminals buy guns on the black market... Thank you sillyfearful liberals.

The issue of gun control is an issue of distrust, and nothing more.

I couldn't agree more with that point of view, and to add to it, I'm hearing alot of cb owners on the air, who should have spent their money a bit better, in the respect that they shouldn't own one at all. As far as the Gun topic......to each their own, I personally won't carry a fire arm on my truck, I feel too much could go wrong, so I just rely on my ability to throw down the old fashion way if something arises that calls for such a responce. 8)

Yeah right :P

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It isn't the Feds who will give you a problem, unless you pickup or deliver to a military base. Most are cool about it as long as you declare that you have the weapon and give it to them to hold until you leave the base. Some, such as in the Socialist Republic of New York, will call the locals to have you arrested. Military bases follow local laws concerning possessing guns, however it is against Federal law to attempt to take a firearm on a military base. So if you go on bases, you will probably be better off leaving the gun at home.

Don't forget to leave it in the truck...if you go in the building to declare your gun.
Let them retrieve it, or give you permission first.

Actualy there is no law saying that you cannot carry a weapon in a CMV. If you have a concealed carry permit u can carry in the state that issued it even in a truck unless your company has a rule against it. But the state lines are where it gets illegal...because some states dont recognize other states concealed carry permits.

All those shots fired, and you still miss. Sad. :D

I own 2 Firearms, one for my Purse and the other for my Home.
Firearms have saved my Life 5 times already, and I would NEVER dream of going Unarmed again!
I recommend that EVERYONE go Armed.
God Forbid that the lives of myself, my Husband and our Cat were to be put in danger at some point by someone else!
I am also a Full Year Member of NRA and a Former Cowboy Action Shooter.
Guns have been my companion and friends in times when I needed them.

Mrs. Brian also comes from a pro-gun state where the laws are more liberal. Illinois is a lot tougher on the subject.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 (did I say that right?)

Ours is Right to Carry and Open Carry.
With the way things are changing, that won't be around much longer here, except in Rural Areas.
Sad State of affairs with the Anti - Gunners moving in on our Cities.

I don't see anything wrong wit carrying a gun... The enemies do... What should I say to them when I have a more of a ratio chance to get shot then I would if I pulled out my own... And most likely I'm pulling out something bigger... How about get shot thinking I could have protected myself or how about feeling better knowing I went down in a blaze of glory for my right to live...

And the best qoute so far ,"I'de rather be judged by 12 then carried by six"... Oh so true, I say Amen to that Brother!!!...

:P

If I see the whites of their eyes, its kill or be killed!!!
Ooops!!! That was someone asking for directions... :?

Gun laws are made for the criminals to unarm an armed society who's main goal is self defence, in this manner the criminals can and will take advantage of unarmed citizens to rob,kill,steal, and hold hostage honest peoples. I vote against gun control and any member of the governemnt who is for gun control.
Actually when one thinks about guns all they see is killing when in reality its not the guns that do the damage its actually the bullets that is so dangerous, without the bullets a gun is almost useless.
When the bullet leaves the barrel it goes where ever it can untill it runs out of enough motion to carry it any further.
All the laws in the world will not stop criminals from this action untill we see the crooks swinging from the gallows, untill then current laws and punisment are not going to be much of a deterance.
The current situation in the prision systems is to reform criminals and yes there are some who actually change, but if we had stiffer penalties like open public hangings most people who actually had any moral behaviour would think more before commiting an act of violence.
Under the current system a smart criminal can play the system and be back out in a few years to commit more crimes and if this is the case they get much harder to catch if they are truely commited to comitting crimes.

8) :evil: check out fmcs rules. no regs about carring a firearm. it is mostly the companys policy. there is also the problem with 1 state respecting another states laws regarding firearms. ei. new york does not accept new mexicos concealed weapons permit. still are you going to shoot me just because you were thinking about something else and i came out of the dark and said hi how are you this morning and scared the poop out of you? how do you know i am just being friendly, not a mad sexualy inferior rapist torture killer? you gonna shoot me just to be on the safe side? what is gonna be the guidline where you shoot first? how do i know the rules? if i see you pull a pistol is it ok to shoot you first? c'mon, common sense will keep you safer than a firearm. unless you are willing to shoot at first sight i will disarm you, even if you shoot me chances are i will still disarm you. use common sense!

This topic is old and warn out but I figured I would throw my 2 cents in And its worth about that much. When I was moving here from TN me and my oldest son drove out and my wife and two younger kids flew. We had stopped in Mississippi for the night, and while my boy showered and got ready for bed I went to the diner to grab some food. On my way over I was attacked by two dirt bags, One grabbed my shirt and the other punched me in my face removing two of my front teeth. I don't remember thinking about it but at some point I was able to get my moderately sized folding knife out of my pocket and into the fellow who had hold of me and was trying to get me on the ground. I also got the fellow who removed my teeth as well. The Cops came took evryones story down as well as mine. I will put it this way. Had I had the Glock in my waits band I would have armed a crack head. A hand gun is useless at fist fight range. You are better served by a good knife, And the idea of shooting at some one blazing away at a dirt bag trying to sneak into my truck gives me the willies. If you miss ware do the bullets go ? Into the truck parked next to you. My wife carries concealed, but her first line of defense is her brain. Be aware of whats around you. Take a good self defence class and you will be fine. I am working in the 5th ward at this time. I move around here at night and have no trouble. Keep the gun at home and use your most dangerous weapon a woman has... your mind.

there's alot of big talk on here about firearms & trucks, I'll take your word for fact about no Fed. Reg re; a firearm in a cmv. And we all know whats going to happen when the DOT or MP's do a search and find one. But what happens when you do use it? how about an accidental discharge? Yeah I know it won't happen to you right?? Well I've been thru all sorts of small arms training and it can happen to anyone! I'm NOT going into any detail other than once you pull that trigger you can't call it back! You will live the rest of your life with that on your mind & in your dreams.
With that said, do I still carry? Yes at time when I feel the need to., but only in my home state. BTW I live in NY
I support your right to carry, but some people :roll: I wouldn't trust with a butter knife!!!

I don't plan to carry a gun but...
 

I sure as shit am glad that criminals think I might be. I have a friend who is always packing. I live in Utah so I thought it was ridiculous. One night we hiked up about a mile and a half to some hot springs. When we got there, there were about 5-10 teenage girls, cute high school girls. There was also one guy who was about 30-ish and was following the girls around the hot pots talking their ears off even though they were obviously trying their absolute hardest to avoid him. They ended up spending most of the night very close to my friend and I. At about midnight, they decided it was time to leave, packed up their stuff and proceeded down the trail. Not two minutes after they were out of site, the weird guy all of a sudden decided he was in a hurry to leave as well. Believe me, it was clear that this guy had bad intentions in his mind from what he had said earlier to us. We tried to be friendly and told him to hang out a while with us. That didn't work. He was determined. He refused and we got more forceful with him about it and asked why. I'm leaving out a lot of the story but the guy was up to no good and it was clear. Finally my friend opened his pack and let the guy see that he had a pistol with him. The guy agreed to stay another 45 minutes and we all knew what was going on. Those girls have no idea how close they came to a very bad experience. No bullets were fired, no literal threat was made, but we all knew what was going on that night. That is, with the exception of the would be victim(s.)

With all due respect to your intended loss.


Sorry but the only accidental discharge I will ever buy is if a weapon slam fires to automatic for a few rounds. Guns don't go bang until you pull a trigger. That's even more preventable than truck accidents.

thank you, but a fire arm is a mechanical device and can have a malfunction at anytime . That may resualt in a misfire or discharge. It all depends on the type of weapon and it's "state of readiness" I have had 2 serious malfunctions
1 where an old PT.22 went full auto and emtyd the mag(got a lot of looks at the range :lol: )
2 I had a Ruger MK1 break a fireing pin and when that happens it fires from an "open bolt position" it blew the mag out and brook both grips off in my hand and swelled the frame all from a .22!
No injuries in either case!
Both of these weapons had been well taken care of and still had a mechanical malfuntion, add some neglect of the weapon and inexpeirance
with them and that an accident waitng to happen
guns don't kill people, people kill people. sorry bout the lecture :oops:

I love the CZ-52 in cliber 7.62x25

Its cheap and reliable but I don't carry on the road. The company policies are clear, and most companies prohibit entry on thier property if you are carrying.

Like I said before, forget the gun You don't need one to arm yourself. use windex in there eyes. that way if a police officer say's what's that for? all you got to say is simple cleaning my windows Lol.

Stop griping (complaining). You (YOU) decide what's right and wrong.... not the law. The law wants you to be submissive (naked).
But life and death decisions are for you to make, not the law. By the time the law gets there (after the 911 call) you're already dead.
If you need to kill someone.... kill'em. Period. If not keep the gun concealed in the truck. Period.
But at least YOU have control.

Why are you dredging up the dead? This thread died 4 years ago!

I am a female who has driven solo, and I have been raised around guns--but I do not believe you need one on a truck to protect yourself! If us females can do it come on guys! Also, it is against the DOT and law to have a firearm on the truck.

There are no laws that prohibits anyone from having a firearm in their truck. There are also no DOT laws on the books which prohibit having guns in the truck. Although some companies do prohibit drivers from having a gun in their truck, it isn't illegal.