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smyli 07-11-2007 05:33 AM

Anybody know which company will hire someone w/ a felony?
 
Me and my husband both have a felony each, just one, mine was over 11 yrs ago and his is 7 yrs old, there the only ones we have, but it just seems like were screwed either way, If we tell the truth and put it on the application then everyone says no off the bat! if we lie and they still find out then we're fired, the later has not happend yet, we have not lied but it's getting to that point, No one will give us a chance. comapnys won't hire someone with a possion but they will hire someone with grand theft and has the history to seal thier truck or load! What's the deal?

greg3564 07-11-2007 06:10 AM

What exactly are the felonies for? That will help in answering your question.

Uturn2001 07-11-2007 06:51 AM

Odds are it is his conviction that is the problem. Most companies want at least 10 years from date of conviction before considering it.

smyli 07-11-2007 07:36 AM

It's not just his it seems to be both of our because we both have the same thing possion of a controlled substance. It's like when they ask do you have any felonys and you say yes they automactly think your a bad person!
What I don't understand is why on like Swifts website it says no felonies with in 5 years, so I apply and the when someone calls and they ask the same question again and I say yes but then tell them how old they are they say " sorry i can't help you, We don't accept anyone with any felonys" But I know for a fact that they do, Because I kn ow someone that works for them and has one but it is not for drugs it's a grand theft, so Swift would rather hire someone that could steal the truck or the whole load.
Anybody have any Ideas?

Uturn2001 07-11-2007 08:26 AM

While I know it does not seem fair I can understand why a company would not want to hire someone with a drug conviction.

First off, with the laws in many states, if someone gets caught with drugs the state can seize any and all property that the person has in his/her possession regardless of who actually owns that property. This creates a huge problem for the company since they are out the truck, trailer and load and insurance is not going to cover that loss. Insurance will cover a loss due to theft however.

Secondly, if someone with a drug conviction goes back to using drugs while driving they have a greater chance of killing someone which also creates a huge liability for the company.

Twilight Flyer 07-11-2007 08:51 AM


so Swift would rather hire someone that could steal the truck or the whole load.
Actually, yes. Replacing a truck and a trailer is a whole lot cheaper that paying out millions to someone that has a wreck and kills someone. And like it or not, right or wrong, and God forbid...if you are in a wreck and kill someone, your past as a drug offender will be front and center for the prosecution. So most companies today have adopted a no-tolerance policy.

SemperFi 07-11-2007 08:56 AM


Actually, yes. Replacing a truck and a trailer is a whole lot cheaper that paying out millions to someone that has a wreck and kills someone. And like it or not, right or wrong, and God forbid...if you are in a wreck and kill someone, your past as a drug offender will be front and center for the prosecution. So most companies today have adopted a no-tolerance policy.

And he's a recruiter, so, right from the horses mouth, so to speak.

smyli 07-11-2007 10:06 AM

But you should ask not just ass-ume that if you have a possion charge that your on drugs or used them. I have never used drugs! or my husband! in my case I was 16 and had no other way to take care of my self but to sell them. I refused to sell my body! and as for my husband he got a possion because they had no other charges on him to prove! he was sitting at the bus stop and there was dope boys around the police jumped out on them and they thru the dope under the bench and the police put it on him! and with the "justice" in florida and no money you get a sorry public defender and everyone knows they work with the state.

Twilight Flyer 07-11-2007 10:13 AM

A possession charge is a possession charge, regardless of the circumstances. Whether or not you used them is actually irrelevant. In the same situation I posted, if you were in an accident and killed someone, your felony charges would be the crowning jewel of the prosecution and I guarantee you that not a one of them (prosecution, jury, or judge) would believe you never used or your husband had the charge just thrown on him. Whether that's true or not is not for me to decide or comment on. I'm just telling you HOW it would be viewed in a court of law and WHY most companies will not hire you.

mudflap276 07-11-2007 11:28 AM

the guy that wrecked and burned on the bridge in oakland not long ago, he had a felony and the media brought that up front and center. it sucks, but some people in society just cant forgive even if one repays society.

greg3564 07-11-2007 01:08 PM

Based on your criminal history, you probably need to look at doing something else as a career. It would be one thing if one person had a felony drug charge, but both of you seals the deal for sure.

smyli 07-11-2007 02:22 PM

That's what's wrong with this world nobody is forgiving, IF I was by chance to get into an accident then they would try to say it was because I was on drugs. But yet it's drivers thay kills people because they just won't go to sleep! when yopu get into an accident you have to take a drug test with in a certin amount of hours, so that alone would prove i wasn't using drugs.
And I 'm not saying things should just be over looked but it should be that you take every case, case by case, it should be about how long ago it was, how many felonys in all you have, I mean 1 felony is a mistake, 2,3,4,5,6 is a criminal history.
Anyways this could go on and on I just wondered if anyone knew of a good comany that would give us a chance.
Thanks for all the input though!

flood 07-11-2007 03:36 PM

i hate to add this but
try looking at this from the company side you both have felony drug possion charges right.. how do thy know you have changed or have just not been caught again...?
thy could look at it as you are just looking for a way to move drugs..?
3 or 4 years ago western express ( nashville, tn.) 11 drivers, 2 mechanics and 3 dispatchers were busted for moving drugs in the cab's of company trucks..
NOT saying you would do that but it is something that thy have to look at.

the long and short of it is any drug charge is going to make it very hard to get a job in trucking but a felony charge will make it nearly impossable...?

BigDiesel 07-11-2007 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by smyli
That's what's wrong with this world nobody is forgiving, IF I was by chance to get into an accident then they would try to say it was because I was on drugs. But yet it's drivers thay kills people because they just won't go to sleep! when yopu get into an accident you have to take a drug test with in a certin amount of hours, so that alone would prove i wasn't using drugs.
And I 'm not saying things should just be over looked but it should be that you take every case, case by case, it should be about how long ago it was, how many felonys in all you have, I mean 1 felony is a mistake, 2,3,4,5,6 is a criminal history.
Anyways this could go on and on I just wondered if anyone knew of a good comany that would give us a chance.
Thanks for all the input though!

Nobody takes responsibility for their actions anymore... then expects everyone else to bail them out. :roll:

smyli 07-11-2007 04:59 PM

I didn't ask for any smartazz remarks, I asked a simple question.
I take responseablity for all my actions, I don't blame anybody for my mistakes in my life, So to you that wrote that you can kiss my azz, I was asking a serious question.
But to everybody else thanks for the input.
as for the jackazz that made the stupid comment it's stupid people like you that keep people like me in to trouble, cause if anything I got is an attuide and a quick temper.
Now let me ask this serious question again !!!!!!!!

Please does anyone know of any company that would give me a chance, either by company driver or driving for an owner operater.
SERIOUS replys only PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigDiesel 07-11-2007 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by smyli
I didn't ask for any smartazz remarks, I asked a simple question.
I take responseablity for all my actions, I don't blame anybody for my mistakes in my life, So to you that wrote that you can kiss my azz, I was asking a serious question.
But to everybody else thanks for the input.
as for the jackazz that made the stupid comment it's stupid people like you that keep people like me in to trouble, cause if anything I got is an attuide and a quick temper. Now let me ask this serious question again !!!!!!!!

Please does anyone know of any company that would give me a chance, either by company driver or driving for an owner operater.
SERIOUS replys only PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With that attitude.... there is no place for you in this business. You may wish to try your local McDonalds. :lol:

Ridge Runner 07-11-2007 06:56 PM


as for the jackazz that made the stupid comment it's stupid people like you that keep people like me in to trouble
Not that I agree with what Big D said but your reply says alot. I would really like to know how someone else keeps you in trouble? The only one that can get/keep you in trouble is YOU!

The CHOICE is yours! Use wisely your power of choice.

LA to Cleveland 07-11-2007 07:48 PM

A general guideline used by at least one company out there: a) the felony must be at least 5 years old. b) the felony charge must not be a violent or drug related felony.

smyli 07-11-2007 11:22 PM

Just to let anybody out there who cares know I did find a company that will take both of us with our felonys!!!!! great pay tooo!!! I won't give you the name but as a team with me not having any experance there starting my husband off with 49 cents a mile and me at .33 a mile so I'm happy and so for the jack azz you know who you are, I will make it in this!!! 1 as a professional driver and 2 as a strong woman!!!! now sit on that and rotate :D

For those that care I will keep you posted about my progress!!!
we leave out friday yea

hitman 07-12-2007 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by smyli
cause if anything I got is an attuide and a quick temper.

Glad to hear that someone is willing to give you a second chance smyli. Now take that second chance, and go out there and prove that you are responsible and have learned your lesson. Don't blow it. But you do need to get rid of the attitude and short temper. You sure don't need them out on the road, while driving an 80,000 pound vehicle. If someone on an internet web site can get you all riled up, i'd hate to think what would happen if some 4-wheeler cuts you off. Good luck.

Sheepdancer 07-12-2007 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by smyli
That's what's wrong with this world nobody is forgiving, IF I was by chance to get into an accident then they would try to say it was because I was on drugs. But yet it's drivers thay kills people because they just won't go to sleep! when yopu get into an accident you have to take a drug test with in a certin amount of hours, so that alone would prove i wasn't using drugs.
And I 'm not saying things should just be over looked but it should be that you take every case, case by case, it should be about how long ago it was, how many felonys in all you have, I mean 1 felony is a mistake, 2,3,4,5,6 is a criminal history.
Anyways this could go on and on I just wondered if anyone knew of a good comany that would give us a chance.
Thanks for all the input though!

Its not about forgivness...personally, I forgive you for ny stupid things you did when young.....What twilight is trying to explain to you is the reason you cant get a job is your drug conviction creates a LIABILITY to anyone that hires you. Face it we live in a country and a time where people sue for anything. Successful companies have to protect their assets. If a huge billion dollar company did hire you and you had a wreck and killed someone, lawyers would have a field day and the very short court case would go something like this.

Lawyer: You mean you knew this driver had a known criminal drug history and you hired them anyway and now someone is dead?
Company: Uh yes, we were just trying to be nice and forgiving by giving people another chance.
Lawyer: Here is a blank check, Just sign it and we will fill in any amount.
Judge: Yes, do that.

Oh, I just saw that you actually got a job with that drug felony. Scary. However good luck.

Mack2 07-12-2007 02:35 AM

1 Felony is a mistake :?: What if you had killed someone with that one felony would you consider that a mistake.

Uturn2001 07-12-2007 02:42 AM


in my case I was 16 and had no other way to take care of my self but to sell them.
This is my favorite line in the whole saga.

I have known several people who were homeless or what ever at one time in their life and never turned to doing anything illegal to "take care of themselves."

There are simply too many organizations out there whose sole purpose is to help a person in need, and if you are young and in trouble the resources are almost limitless for anyone to have to turn to illegal activities to get by.

zipy46 07-12-2007 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by LA to Cleveland
A general guideline used by at least one company out there: a) the felony must be at least 5 years old. b) the felony charge must not be a violent or drug related felony.

Some companies will not consider someone if they show a bankruptcy

on their personal record.

Sheepdancer 07-12-2007 03:20 AM


in my case I was 16 and had no other way to take care of my self but to sell them.
My 13 year old made about 6 grand in just the summer months last year mowing neighborhood lawns. He will probably make the same or more this year. I guess I should tell him that hes doing something wrong because the only way a young person can make money is selling drugs.

What is really scary is she seems to have that "Its ok to break the law, as long as Im making more money" attitude....and now she is in a truck.
I bet she will be running illegal because in her mind that is the only way she can survive and take care of herself in this business.

Useless 07-12-2007 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by smyli
But you should ask not just ass-ume that if you have a possion charge that your on drugs or used them. I have never used drugs! or my husband! in my case I was 16 and had no other way to take care of my self but to sell them. I refused to sell my body! and as for my husband he got a possion because they had no other charges on him to prove! he was sitting at the bus stop and there was dope boys around the police jumped out on them and they thru the dope under the bench and the police put it on him! and with the "justice" in florida and no money you get a sorry public defender and everyone knows they work with the state.

Smyli;

Do youy REALLY believe that ANYONE of sound mind is going to believe that story!!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
In this industry, the excuses you have for your criminal past really do not matter, but seriously, this is one of the lamest excuses that I've heard in a lonnnnnggggg time!!
:dung:

Useless 07-12-2007 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by Sheepdancer

Originally Posted by smyli
That's what's wrong with this world nobody is forgiving, IF I was by chance to get into an accident then they would try to say it was because I was on drugs. But yet it's drivers thay kills people because they just won't go to sleep! when yopu get into an accident you have to take a drug test with in a certin amount of hours, so that alone would prove i wasn't using drugs.
And I 'm not saying things should just be over looked but it should be that you take every case, case by case, it should be about how long ago it was, how many felonys in all you have, I mean 1 felony is a mistake, 2,3,4,5,6 is a criminal history.
Anyways this could go on and on I just wondered if anyone knew of a good comany that would give us a chance.
Thanks for all the input though!

Its not about forgivness...personally, I forgive you for ny stupid things you did when young.....What twilight is trying to explain to you is the reason you cant get a job is your drug conviction creates a LIABILITY to anyone that hires you. Face it we live in a country and a time where people sue for anything. Successful companies have to protect their assets. If a huge billion dollar company did hire you and you had a wreck and killed someone, lawyers would have a field day and the very short court case would go something like this.

Lawyer: You mean you knew this driver had a known criminal drug history and you hired them anyway and now someone is dead?
Company: Uh yes, we were just trying to be nice and forgiving by giving people another chance.
Lawyer: Here is a blank check, Just sign it and we will fill in any amount.
Judge: Yes, do that.

Oh, I just saw that you actually got a job with that drug felony. Scary. However good luck.

Well Stated, Sheepdancer!!

Another consideration is lost productivity that occurs when you are pulled behind a chicken house, and an LEO goes through your truck with a fine tooth comb... which is going to happen repeatedly!!

Sorry, but there are just too many other drivers who do not present the risks associated with having a convicted felon behind the wheel.

Your only ope at this point is to hit up the "Outlaw" cpmpanies, where you wil runn illegally, in (usually substandard equipment.

TOWSTRAP 07-12-2007 10:19 AM

Go chuck groceries in a whse. somewhere until you've built up enough credence with the employer that they'll let you in one of their trucks.

I have a buddy who had t have a solid work history following his conviction for DUI and that was 16 yrs. ago. H estill only gets .40 a mile but at least he's home every day.

Sonny Pruitt 07-12-2007 12:22 PM

you have a PM :wink:

greg3564 07-12-2007 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by smyli
Just to let anybody out there who cares know I did find a company that will take both of us with our felonys!!!!! great pay tooo!!! I won't give you the name but as a team with me not having any experance there starting my husband off with 49 cents a mile and me at .33 a mile

So you went from no one will hire you to all of a sudden your husband is getting .49 cpm and you .33! :roll: I call bull :dung: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Total absolute bull :dung: !

truckerpreacher 07-12-2007 01:27 PM


So you went from no one will hire you to all of a sudden your husband is getting .49 cpm and you .33! I call bull !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Total absolute bull !

Won't name the company either, :roll: :roll:
RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE :shock:

BigDiesel 07-12-2007 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by smyli
Just to let anybody out there who cares know I did find a company that will take both of us with our felonys!!!!! great pay tooo!!! I won't give you the name but as a team with me not having any experance there starting my husband off with 49 cents a mile and me at .33 a mile so I'm happy and so for the jack azz you know who you are, I will make it in this!!! 1 as a professional driver and 2 as a strong woman!!!! now sit on that and rotate :D

For those that care I will keep you posted about my progress!!!
we leave out friday yea


Liar Liar Pants On Fire !!!!! :lol:

Skywalker 07-12-2007 03:36 PM

Considering I know just alittle bit about Florida and its laws....having been a resident of that state all my life..... I have a problem with some of her claims:

1. If she was 16, and was convicted of a Felony, and that felony can be detected in any application search or even found out about by any other method.... She had to have been tried as an adult. That means that the possession charge was for a significant amount of drugs, or there wer firearms involved. Why do I say this? Because 16 is less than 18, and that makes her a "minor" in the eyes of the law, and criminal records of "minors" are sealed, permanently. Only with a "Judge's" permission can even a DA access those records.

2. She does not say whether or not her husband was a minor at the time. But if he was, the same would apply.

3. The Public Defender, generally does not defend minors. Juvenile court is not the same as the Circuit Courts. The PD does not work for the state. Or at least in the fashion she alluded to. They are paid by the state, but do not do the prosecutions work for them.

4. She says they are going to run "team".....hmmmm, 49+33= 82. Frankly, I don't know of any company on this planet that pays a team 82 cpm.

Oh well.
:?

no9klein 07-12-2007 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Skywalker
... I have a problem with some of her claims:

... Because 16 is less than 18, and that makes her a "minor" in the eyes of the law, and criminal records of "minors" are sealed, permanently. Only with a "Judge's" permission can even a DA access those records.

Very good point. A similar rule applies in every state, as far as I am aware of. Although a minor may be charged as though he/she is an adult, this can only be done in very serious felony cases.


Originally Posted by Skywalker
... She says they are going to run "team".....hmmmm, 49+33= 82. Frankly, I don't know of any company on this planet that pays a team 82 cpm.

I have recently read ads for some trucking companies that compensate team drivers according to their individual experience as well as the number of miles each drives. If such is the case with the job offer she claims they have accepted, ''he'' would earn 49 cpm for his miles, ''she'' would earn 33 cpm for hers. Assuming, arguendo, they each drive an equal number of miles, the total compensation paid by the company would be 41 cpm; not 82 cpm.... Which seems to be in the ballpark of what many carriers are paying.

I do, however, question why any carrier would be willing to pay a felon 49 cpm as a starting wage.

Popeye 07-13-2007 12:10 AM

I noticed she has not posted any replies. Typical they come and :dung: on you and run away as soon as they realize that they are not smart enough to continue the crap.

Timothy J. Begle 07-13-2007 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by smyli
That's what's wrong with this world nobody is forgiving, ......

I forgive you, and my boss (who does the hiring) would forgive you. But, our insurance company wouldn’t let us hire you!
Now if you feel we are butt-holes that will be fine.


As for as you claiming you have now found the worlds greatest job after just 2 days of looking. I can only say; I wasn’t born yesterday, and I didn’t know McDonalds had trucks in their Drive-Though department.

Orangetxguy 07-13-2007 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Timothy J. Begle

Originally Posted by smyli
That's what's wrong with this world nobody is forgiving, ......

I forgive you, and my boss (who does the hiring) would forgive you. But, our insurance company wouldn’t let us hire you!
Now if you feel we are butt-holes that will be fine.


As for as you claiming you have now found the worlds greatest job after just 2 days of looking. I can only say; I wasn’t born yesterday, and I didn’t know McDonalds had trucks in their Drive-Though department.

It's pretty tough to get on with McDonalds' trucking division..at least with Golden State Foods on the Westcoast. Not only do you gotta be willing to drive it their way...you get chewed on for the smallest mistakes. My neighbor & friend, back in WA, drove for GSF for 1 year. Decided it was easier to go back to Ryder Logistics and learn HazMat, then keep doing it their way.

feederfred 07-13-2007 11:45 AM

Personally, I don't have a problem with this. These two morons were what drug testing and background checks were designed to weed out. There are people that should be in the trucking industry and people who should NOT. Quite simple. Unforgiving ? Judgmental ? I don't really care. My family and I have to use the highways and I frankly don't care to share them with a couple of convicted felon drug users. And if you two morons actually DID get a job in the industry, I am quite sure it's only so some dispatcher could use you as "tools" to lie, cheat and steal. Just what we DON'T need on the road...If you have the nuts or the honesty, let us know what "wonderful" company would hire the crime twins, so the rest of us can avoid them on the road. A "spade is a spade".......(and leopards DON'T change their spots...)Oh poor you....

Double R 07-13-2007 12:10 PM

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Uturn2001 07-13-2007 02:10 PM


4. She says they are going to run "team".....hmmmm, 49+33= 82. Frankly, I don't know of any company on this planet that pays a team 82 cpm.
With this type of team pay scheme the company is splitting miles not pay. Say the truck runs 5000 miles in a week. Driver "1" is paid for 2500 at 49 cpm and driver "2" is paid for 2500 at 33 cpm. Or if you prefer you could look at it as them being paid 41 cpm for all miles the truck turns. 49+33/2=41.


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