Re: which company are you with?? I'd really like to know
 

:lol: :lol: :lol: Good question!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

What I find amazing is that they go out, commit a crime, then want everyone to kiss their boo-boo. :shock: :?

It is obvious " Sunset " missed the remedial spelling class in the joint.
Learn how to spell, CONVICT !!!

not trying to start any thing but felons can vote they only loose that right while on propation and you dont have to register with any law enforcement!! unless your a child molster and if you have been cleen for seven years you can get your hazmat unless you did some homeland securty crime which if you did you would not even get your cdl (sheep dancer) you keep saying jb would not hire felons they know all about my past and they still will hire me i have talked to mangment other than you all's recruters and they would give me a job if i would take it

Not if you live in Kentucky, Iowa or Virginia.


If you're still on probation or parole you do.


Once again another felon getting who gets argumentative. :roll:

im not trying to be any thing!!! you people think felons are scum of the earth im just trying to say you can make it.and with a major company. i live in a 150thousand dollar home have two cars paid for and a harley raised three kids one still at home. the oldest putting through college!!all being a three time felon[scum to some of you all] and a truck driver!!! so to the felons dont let them tell you it cant be done IT CAN you just have to knock on a few doors and they will open up

think what you want next time your going through ok city on 1-40 exit 169 let me know i will more than welcome you to my home and well cook out some steaks only live one mile off the highway even have a place to park your tractor and you can see how some of the scum have made it in this world i will more than welcome any one of you all to my house and to meet my family and show you how some of the scum you call us live and have made a life for our familys (no bs here)

Go find me the thread were I called you a SCUM!

i wasnt!!! some on this thread have and they throw it out like every one who has had a troubled past are second rate!!! i take a sh?t just like they do. i just want the young guy out there to have some one to say hay man he can do it so can i!!!!!!! because it can be done (no bs here)

Here's the part that I called BS. If you are just a company driver for a OTR carrier, then I don't belive it. Not saying that you can't make money OTR but the 150 home, two PAID off cars. But then again, you wife could have a decent job also. As for being scum, not all felonies are. Some(such as yourself) have turned there life in the right direction. Good for you.

well we do and my wife only makes between 350 to 400 a week. we have worked hard and saved money to get were we are (our cars are older 99 taho and a 02 silv.)my whole point i want to make is the people on this thread should help the young guy out who wants to better them selves and not belittle them so hard (you get told enough your worhtless and you start to beleive it) then guess were there at AGIAN!!!like i said any one who wants to meet a felon who can cook a mean steak outdoors is more than welcome at my home.(i know your asking for some looney toon to take me up on it) but my two dobes can take care of my light work for me LOL.i just dont want the young kid out there to think they are worthless it is a pretty sh$tty feeling were all HUMAN

Well, I think one of the things that got people pissed off on this thread was the fact that the person was not taking responsibilty for their actions. She was making it sound like she was a "victim" of her upbringing and not her fault. It was a cavalier attitude.

While all felons are not "scum." The vast majority are not the most ideal citizens and often don't change their lifestyles.

i nkow what your saying but us as a trucking community could say hey we gave them a positive out look maybe just maybe somthing will click and for me if it clicks in one in a thousand i feel better about my self that i did try to help some one (not make them feel like sh&t) i was the same way when i was in my 20s always societys falt but then some one did take the time (guess what it clicked) so i just try to pay it forward when i can

WOW!!
 

I tried my best not to respond to all of this, but find I can not.

I 100% get that nobody, but nobody should be using drugs, but I don't frankly get the attitude of some of you out there regarding past (WAY past) issues with former use. Some of you frankly may have done a thing or two over your lifetimes...I find it hard to believe that a lot of you responders are "lily white" in all of this!

No doubt about the fact that this poster sounds like she's straight full of @#*@ :roll:. Where I have a problem is that there are so many factors that make someone a dangerous driver...just look to all the numerous injuries and casualties as a result of tractor trailer drivers. Recently a driver in Indiana was not paying attention to the road construction around him, didn't stop in time - killed two and injured four. Drivers roll their trucks MOST OFTEN due to speeding and innocent people are often hurt or die. I could research many other cases but don't have to because you know I'm speaking the truth. Drivers with DUIs - especially priors - scare me more because either in a POV or truck, they show a history of very poor decision-making in reference to alcohol and driving and often continue to be in denial about their drinking; bottom line here, over 40% of automobile fatalities are alcohol related.

You're wrong that a company would be held liable for injury and accidents due to someone's OLD criminal history, it would have to be proven that the current issues were related. There comes a time when the past should be the past... 10 years is a lengthy enough time if someone has proven they live a very different lifestyle today and have the references and history to prove it - for those doing the right thing, that shouldn't be hard! I work with individuals in recovery for substance dependence and they are often the most honest, hard-working individuals I know as they know they have to take ownership of their past and prove themselves.

Lots of companies look past this history if enough time has passed, regardless if it was drug-related. Others absolutely wont tolerate previous convictions if they're drug-related, no ifs, ands or buts. Bottom line, that decision-making is more relevant to the belief systems of those in authority at the company, not just insurance companies...

By the way smyli, last I knew, CRST did NOT accept any sales-related drug charges EVER!! You make it after a history of legal trouble by working your A@# off and staying on the right path! Best of luck!

You want a serious answer? Well, here it is.

Get out of Florida. Nothing but trucking companies their, so your choices are limited. You might want to move to Texas. You going to have to get with a local outfit here either in Houston or Auston, or if you come north of their to Dallas, I know of a couple of places that will hire you both.

Now understand, your NOT going to make top pay. But at least you will be working.

Good luck.

There's lots of companies that hire ex- felons. I'm an x felon and have never had any problem finding work. It does depend on how long ago it's been though. Mine was back in 1991 for sale and possesion...good luck..Oh by the way dont let these hipocritical people on here, bum you out most of them are rednecks.....

Proud to be a RedNeck. :D

"Redneck" ??? LOL! At least we can still vote and own firearms legally. And, we NEVER have to check that little box that says "Have you ever been convicted of a crime ?" Sorry kids, but leopards don't change their spots. It's called "recidivism"....Oh and good luck getting your TSA hazmat endorsment. Have fun on those dirt bottoms..................Se Habla Espanol ??

Hate to say it, but you're dead wrong there. :roll:

Okay, please explain to me that if say, a person had a drug-related criminal history from 10 years ago and is involved in an incident that DOESN'T have ANYTHING to do with current or any sort of recent use, how the heck is the company liable?

I'm not asking for a recruiter, DM or other such personnel's viewpoint - but the LAW!!!!!

Again, a lot of what's explained as insurance issues is actually a lot to do with the particular viewpoints of company higher ups - owners of course included.

I don't know if this story is true, but I heard it from an instructor in orientation. There was a driver who had drug related charges against him but were several years old and had gone to rehab and passed the drug test to get hired. He ran off the road and rolled his truck. The story went that he was intoxicated and there was so much residue built up in the truck that people couldn't even go inside without getting sick. But instead of saying that he made a mistake, he turned around and sued the company and said that it was their fault, they were negligent hiring him with his history and won. I'm not sure how much he got but I know that if you have any drug related charges they do't want to give you a chance anymore. But just think if he had been high and hit another car. They might have been sued by the driver and the person he hit! :shock:

The problem with people that use and continue to use no matter what happens in their lives, is that beside the grave danger they pose to others, they make it really difficult for those who do change and STAY changed!!

feederfred called it "recidivism" but that is the term that applies to those that return or go back to the same behaviors.

I am a case manager that has worked with individuals that had issues with substances in the past for over 10 years. I can tell you first hand that many, many people do change their lives and maintain that change...I could really give a good BLEEP about those that are too narrow-minded or short-sighted to see that.

Alcohol is a drug - just happens to be legal - that has caused more deaths on the highway than any other drug. DUI is the the most widely committed crime in this country and the most rationalized by the perpetrators. My part-time job is at a DUI program and the folks at my other job (former substance abusers) take ownership of their behavior a lot more than the folks in the DUI program!!!

Think what you want but I consider it narrow-minded to not be able to think outside of a set of beliefs that are just that...beliefs with no foundation!! [/b]

I do believe "Twiligh Flyer" is correct. Here's why.

In cases where "issues of liability are concerned" the rules of evidence are far more relaxed. For one, I know that in the State of Florida the results of a "polygraph" are admissable in civil trials but not criminal. You have to remember that in lawsuits for damages....the "trial" is not 100% about who violated what law and did this or that....its a lot of "smoke and mirrors" and grandiose showmanship to sell the plaintiffs line to the 12 unsuspecting jurors...... Regardless of guilt or true fault, if the plaintiffs lawyer can get the jurors to buy the emotional damages issue....and sway them to make the verdict for him....at that point it matters not one wit who was at fault.....its all about who gets the money. And if a company shows it is lax in its "quality of hiring" policies....it automatically assumes liability. Companies are liable for the actions or their employees and agents. Thats simply the law.

Every little detail that can be turned up....can be used, and if you have a motor vehicle accident...even with a Vespa that results in damages, and the owner or driver has felony convictions especially related to drug sales and possession....the lawyer has already won half the case before he files the first motions.

Companies have to invoke limitations to protect themselves, and they do. Often times the levels of limitations on what is acceptable is up to the insurance companies.

If you have any doubts about the veracity of my comments, I recommend that you grab a phone book....and call the # of the ambulance chaser smiling at you from the back cover....ask him or her.

Eloquently put Skywalker...

I still don't think it's a "slam dunk," though your words are persuasive! :wink:

:D

Hello to all!!! Well to all that had somthing positive to say THANK YOU!!!
We are still with CRST and doing good getting alot of miles!! (about 6500 a week, some weeks are more but never less)
For anybody else looking for a company out there that will hire someone with a felony TRL will We have been talking with someone from there and it has to have been 7 yrs or older but they don't go to Canada so I guess it don't matter! as for CRST all they did was put on our paper work No Canada!
And I hate to tell the jb hunt guy, But JB does hire felons, Because they would hire me but not my husband because his isn't 10 yrs old yet!!! so as long as it's 10 yrs old they do!!
And I just want to say I never blamed nothing on no one! I said I made a mistake and maybe it was my up bringing, as far as I didn't have my parents there to put structure in my life, so I was hung with the wrong crowd and made bad choices, At that time I didn't know they were wrong, well not wrong I didn't know it would effect my life as it has when I got older!!!! But people do change and you should not think all people are the same! Whats that saying DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT"S COVER!!!!
Also as for my rights I have all my rights except the right to have a gun and I don't care about that one I don't a gun anyways!!
And the peron that said you only have to registar with in your county if you have sex charges is right!!! or if your on some kind of supervision!!
As for my hasmat I have my sticker, I went thru everthing, app, finger printing, and I took the test and paid the money. it tast them about 4-6 weeks to mail it to you but I do have it!!!! And my husband has had his since 2002 he'll have to do everthing i did if he wants to get it again.
So once again thank you to everyone that had some thing positive to say!! And I guess the others will keep this forum going because they have nothing better to do with thier lives!! :lol:

Gee, who do you think would know more about this....Me, who has been hiring drivers for JB for many many years, or you?
Sorry, you would be wrong. WE (JB) will NOT hire anyone with a drug or violent related felony EVER. I dont care if your possession felony is 35 years old...You are still not going to be hired. Consider yourself lucky that CRST hired you and stick around there.

Absolutely right... you can not have a drug-related or violent felony with JB Hunt - take it from their recruiter!

What he's wrong about however, is that there are plenty of good companies who do hire them as long as they're over 7 to 10 years old - depending on the company. I wish people would get off their damn high horses and judgement and quit sentencing people to a lifetime of doom and failure...no wonder there's such a recidivism rate!!

Peace to all and stay out of glass houses... :oops:

Thanks Tbrown for that post. All those people out there who have never anything wrong is amazing. (probably never just got caught)

No one is saying that you felons arent foregiven or given a chance to succeed in this country. However, that doesnt mean we should just forget about criminal records. When you CHOOSE to commit a felony, you are choosing to possibly get caught and have to pay for it for the rest of your life. Which is exactly what a felony is, a crime so serious that you HAVE to pay for it the rest of your life.

just MORE crooks who want to blame their past on someone, ANYONE else....Nice to know the companies that DO hire felons though. I'll make sure every shipper I know doesn't use them...Wow, I wonder how Harley Davidson (TRL's customer) would feel about their hiring policy ?? Everyone can be as nice or as politically correct as you want. Once a crook, ALWAYS a crook.....oh, and its just NOT TOO HARD to go through life NOT dealing drugs or being a thief or just in general screwing your fellow man. Make all the excuses you want, that's all they are, excuses for BAD choices...that YOU made.

How about those of us whom always understood the difference between right & wrong.....and choose to always do the right thing...even if it made us Dullards in the eyes of others???


Do we get a thanks??

How about those of us whom always understood the difference between right & wrong.....and choose to always do the right thing...even if it made us Dullards in the eyes of others???


NOPE...they are to busy justifing those who CHOOSE to break the law; big difference btween making a mistake and breaking the law - choices and consequences

I am a happy dullard also !!! Happy wife and kids, profitable company, nice home, money in the bank, good credit, and KNOW the difference between right and wrong, unlike the OP who has CHOSEN to BREAK the law. Since the OP claims to have been "hired" by CRST, stay there so you do not pollute another company with your drivel.

I wanted to stay out of this discussion because as an ex-felon, everything I say people are going to say i am just making excuses or not taking responsibility. Let me say this to all of you; I have come to realize that life IS about CHOICES. Everything we do is a CHOICE. Whenever we break the law it is a CHOICE. Whether it is speeding, faking logs, or whatever. EVERYONE MAKES THAT CHOICE. Now, it has nothing to do with right or wrong. Growing up we all learn those lesson. Even a bank robber knows its wrong to rob a bank but his CHOICE is to do so anyway. When you speed, you know it is wrong, but you do it anyway.

That said, there are those who grow up and don't think they have a CHOCIES. That they have to do what they do because they see no better way.

My felony is over 22 years ago. I am not asking anyone to look past that. What I am asking, because i feel it is right to ask, is look at that last 14 years ALSO. I have no trouble answering for the mistake i made (and it was a mistake. I have only one arrest) but also, ask me about my 14 years since work history. Ask me how I have contributed to society? Ask me about the boys and girls in my home town that I have been working with for the past 10 years. (6 girls 5 boys all in trouble when we met. Of the 11 none have been in trouble again. 6 have graduated HS and are in college. 2 graduated with honors. The others will graduate after this school year) . Ask me about the jobs i have held down in the last 14 years. A business school teacher (I have earned 2 college degrees and a teaching certificate since I have been home), a job with IBM (gave them an idea that saved them 1.2 million dollars over 5 years), and most recently with a diagnostics firm as a supervisor. Talk to me and ask me questions, hear my responses. Yes, if you read my case you get one opinion, but meet me, talk to me you will surely get another. Is anybody out there the same person they were 14 years ago? Have you not learned anything? Had different experiences? And maybe become a better person, husband, wife, child, employee, boss because of it.

We live in a country of second chances. The thing is find those who deserve a second chance. Find those who have changed and are making a difference. I guarantee if you met me on the road you would like me right off the back. Would that change if you found out about my past? Most people can't believe it when i tell them. They ask me, how? You don't seem like that type.

Everyone is trying to make a life for themselves and their family. If you keep condeming people to failure and lack of hope, then don't be surprised when they go back to a life of crime.

See now...here you went and made a "Prime" example of yourself. Instead of making excuses for whatever it was you did, you went and admitted that you made a choice, and that it was a bad choice to make. You didn't snivel about how you have to be given anything. What you did do, is admit that you corrected your decision making proccess, then stepped up to the plate at home, and worked to help other's at home, whom were in danger of making wrong choices, learn what it means to make the right choices.

Who can't respect someone willing to do that. Given what you just posted, I'm willing to bet, that you aren't one of those, whom sit in driver's lounges, and pat yourself on the back for having made bad choices, for having gotten away with making those bad choices, and see no need to be remorseful, of bad choices.
I don't know you...don't know what the last 14 years have done for you, or you for them. However, I can and do respect that you have stood up for what you did, took the action to change the direction of your path, and helped others to see and change their path.

That deserves a hearty pat on the back, and a GOOD FOR YOU !!!

orangetxguy, thanks for your kind words. And your are right. I don't look for others to affirm me, i do that everyday myself. I only said those thing to make folks see that lumping all people in the same basket is cruel and heartless. If i were to meet one a**hole truck driver I wouldn't lump all drivers into that same basket.

Unforutnately, we don't live in that world. Some places in this country don't care about your past. Like schools. My college didn't care that I had dropped out of HS or had been in prison. They were willing to give me what I needed at the time. If i took it great, if not they lost nothing. Hospitals don't care either. Come in sick and they will do what the need to do to make you better.

I am not a driver yet. So i haven't had the oportunity to sit in drivers lounges yet. I am trying but like the original poster, I get turned down at every corner. I am working with a recruiter from Roadmaster to help find a company that will give me a chance. And so here we are again, 14 years of great things means nothing because of one day 22 years ago. In this country if that is not the height of hipocrisy i don't know what is. But, I have faith there is one company out there will to give me that shot.

no there isn't...and thats not hypocrisy, it's reality....get a grip

garyavp dont pay any mind to that ups jerk who says you cant i go for my second interview & hire date with tinker airforce base in okc friday i will be hauling fuel for planes and i have two felones the gov. looked at my work record and not so much my past i did have to explain every thing and talk to some top commanders on the fuel line and they still want to give me a shot dont let people like that ups jerk say it cant be done it can