TWT Refrigerated Services
#11
06-10-2007, 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
Originally Posted by Brad M
Colin,
I like your answers and you are the type of driver that we respect. Refrigerated is a very low-margin business - even worse than dry-van. So when you see a smaller company running new Petes and pay for all dock time it should raise some red flags and sound alarm bells. Because to justify all that chrome and hourly pay, they're going to want you to cook the book to git er done. And they're also going to want you to pull for peanuts as well - something your good buddy Colin forgot to mention. You see, the problem with reefer is too many stops and too many strange appt times with long waits. Not that much drop-n-hook and you must fuel the reefer which means additional logbook entries. Many perishable loads which are extremely time-sensitive and thus appt times are very rigid and inflexible on both the shippper and receivers end. For example, if you're hauling a load of paper towels in a dry van, they can usually move the appoint time around. If you're hauling a load of produce, it's a whole different ballgame. And with the new HOS, you can't stop the 14-hour clock once it starts. Been there, done that. If you're still interested in reefer, look for a more respectable carrier such as Marten or Shaffer. Or go ahead and listen to Colin. It's no skin off my back as I'm only here to send the message. It's up to you to take the info and make the best decision for yourself and your family. Best o' luck to ya' either way.
#12
06-10-2007, 03:07 PM
Holy effing christ.
It's funny that you mention the truth, CFM. I tell the truth too. Not all reefer is multi stop. Lots of companies do drop and hook reefer. TWT being one. As lucky13 said, you can fuel the reefer tank the same time you fuel the tractor tanks. Even in 100 degree days running the reefer at -10, once a day fueling is all that's needed. Or CFM, maybe the flatbed side and bulk liquid tanker side of the company is where the money is made and any loss the reefer side has is a write off. Is that possible? TWT does a lot of beef and wine. It's all doom and effing gloom. No other way than yours. Arrgh. CFM: Again with the pay concerns. Pulling for peanuts ACCORDING TO YOU may not be the same for another person. What if this person's spouse brings in $70k a year and he wants to make a little extra?
#13
06-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Petes and chrome don't mean outlaw reefer outfit. TMC???? :wink:
Crap trucks runnin scales = outlaw outift :wink:
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#14
06-10-2007, 03:38 PM
I took a two week inside look at the flatbed side of the house(System Transport) and was less than impressed. Gorgeous building for the suit and tie crowd, the drivers got a double wide mobile on the other side of the lot which seemed to show very well how the outfit thinks of their drivers.
This is no small outfit either, over 800 trucks between the three divisions.
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#15
06-11-2007, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
Not all reefer is multi stop.
Lots of companies do drop and hook reefer. TWT being one.
As lucky13 said, you can fuel the reefer tank the same time you fuel the tractor tanks. Even in 100 degree days running the reefer at -10, once a day fueling is all that's needed. The reefer is one more mechanical component that can break down that a dry-van driver doesn't have to deal with. So how much do you get for cooling your heels at the Thermo-King dealer?
CFM: Again with the pay concerns. Pulling for peanuts ACCORDING TO YOU may not be the same for another person. What if this person's spouse brings in $70k a year and he wants to make a little extra?
#16
06-11-2007, 02:02 PM
I worked for TWT back in the early mid 80's, and yes back then we were allowed to run as hard as we wanted, like most other companies back then who are still around today!! If I remember right the pay was around 29 or 30 cpm, which was then though! They have been around for a while and Made good money, they paid the unloading and other things, which was good in that day. I have talked with some of their drivers through the yrs and they seemed to like working for them. I live in Indiana now and still see their trucks here, so just the I-5 thing is not true. No mater what CFM tells you, there is still money to be made on the road! The road drivers where I work make more than CFM ever thought of. As a matter of fact if you lived in Indianapolis, In I would SHOW YOU HOW to make this money!!!! Blow your heart out CFM....lol What he wants you to believe is there is only 1 way to skin a cat, and as most know that is not true! Would I want to be on the road all my life, the answer is NO! You have to decide what fits in your life, and what will work for you. With these good paying ltl or local jobs CFM talks of making all this money has a trade off which most will not tell you about because they think it is worth it to THEM! Companies don’t give you money for nothing. You don’t work 8 hrs and make 70k and more a year with the limited time CFM has been in this business! Most of these drivers making this money are putting in 12 to 14hrs a day, then drive home, eat, clean up, and then sleep so they can do it all over again the next day. Most like that get less sleep than a road driver JUST to spend a little time with the family! How safe is that??? I don’t agree with some people here, especially Colin, but what he is telling you is sound......Did I Say That......lol wont happen again....lol
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#17
06-11-2007, 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
Originally Posted by Colin
Not all reefer is multi stop.
Lots of companies do drop and hook reefer. TWT being one.
As lucky13 said, you can fuel the reefer tank the same time you fuel the tractor tanks. Even in 100 degree days running the reefer at -10, once a day fueling is all that's needed. The reefer is one more mechanical component that can break down that a dry-van driver doesn't have to deal with. So how much do you get for cooling your heels at the Thermo-King dealer?
CFM: Again with the pay concerns. Pulling for peanuts ACCORDING TO YOU may not be the same for another person. What if this person's spouse brings in $70k a year and he wants to make a little extra?
#18
06-11-2007, 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by Colin
Not all reefer is multi stop.
Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
Did I say ALL reefer is multi-stop?
Lots of companies do drop and hook reefer. TWT being one.
As lucky13 said, you can fuel the reefer tank the same time you fuel the tractor tanks. Even in 100 degree days running the reefer at -10, once a day fueling is all that's needed.
Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
Yes I'm sure they do drop-n-hook. But the point is that there's much LESS drop-n-hook than in dry-van. It's just the nature of refrigerated freight. Reefer = grocery warehouses, lumpers, pallet swaps, washouts, max-weight on the axles, and strange appt time. And everytime you drop that trailer at a customer, you MUST FUEL IT UP.
The reefer is one more mechanical component that can break down that a dry-van driver doesn't have to deal with. So how much do you get for cooling your heels at the Thermo-King dealer? I for one liked my driving jobs. Yes, it can put pressure on you as far as delivery time is concerned if there is a reefer breakdown, but I didn't care. I DIDN'T CARE. I loved hauling cold loads.
CFM: Again with the pay concerns. Pulling for peanuts ACCORDING TO YOU may not be the same for another person. What if this person's spouse brings in $70k a year and he wants to make a little extra?
Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
OK Colin. You worked for TWT. Care to tell the studio audience how much they pay?
I'm certain the pay is different now. Oh wait, they're now buying new 387 Petes for a money losing division. I guess they won't give raises this year... You might want to keep your blanket statements to yourself. Keep posting how good LTL is and leave the rest of the topics alone.
#19
06-11-2007, 06:12 PM
CFM since you have never worked for TWT let the others that have or someone with some informative information about TWT state the facts, that is all I was asking. You have just come on here to start a pissing contest with others so forget it.
#20
06-12-2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad M
CFM since you have never worked for TWT let the others that have or someone with some informative information about TWT state the facts, that is all I was asking.
Oh well. Happy Trails!!!! |
