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Old 11-28-2006, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dpatt
Originally Posted by greg3564
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You should see how many of Sam Walton's descendants are on Forbes 400 Richest People list! Crazy. (All billionaires)
If Sam were alive today I think he would be ashamed at how his company treats its workers! :shock:
He wouldn't be too happy with some of the crap on the shelves either...
AMEN!!... To both of you on that one. My father used to sell to Mr. Sam back when he had a Ben Franklin Store franchise!! I actually got to meet him just before I turned six years old!! (that was in 1963, just a few weeks after JFK was assasinated.) As a Birthday present, He gave me a "Tonka Toy" Jeep and a pack of "Pixie Stix"!!

I think that he would be turning in his grave if he knew what the company he founded and loved had become!!
 
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It's funny how well the company pays its drivers but yet sucks every living dime out of its store employees. :? But still, I would drive for them if I got the chance!
 
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From a capitalist dream to a fascist empire.
 
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:00 AM
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I went through the interview process a long time ago. It isn't that great. Notice how Wally World does NOT ever post exactly what they pay. Instead, you get to go through three interviews before they tell you. And I prefer hotels over living in a 13 letter manure spreader.
 
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Hmm..ok I have heard a lot about how little Walmart pays it's employees and that it treats women bad and only promotes men and all that. I haven't seen it. Not in my neck of the woods anyway. I know 4 people that work at Walmart 3 are women and and 2 of those are upper management. They ALL say that they are treated well, were promoted on merit and that the local store is 70% female and most of the management is female.
I have never seen any REAL proof of Walmart being the way people say they are. It seems most are just disgruntled employees wanting more and not deserving it and screaming UNFAIR!
but anyway 2 more years and I will be eligible to work for this "monster"(in more ways than one I guess) of a company. Thnks for all the info guys

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Originally Posted by billnliz
but anyway 2 more years and I will be eligible to work for this "monster"(in more ways than one I guess) of a company. Thnks for all the info guysl
3 years is the mininum requirement. Most Wallyworld drivers I've talked to say around 5 is about average. And despite what they ad says about preventables, Walmart wants a whistle-clean MVR.

What I've heard (and don't quote me on this) is that you're looking at around .62 cpm for all miles driven. This isn't base mileage, it's factored in after all accessories. Figure an average of about $70,000 per year on the gross. You're paid for all miles driven and everytime you drop/hook a trailer CHA CHING! you get paid. You're even paid for sleeping in the truck. And none of that 2 freebie hours BS at the dock, either. Any such delays and you go on the clock.

That's the kinda deal that ALL OTR drivers should get. There's no reason to provide your services for free like so many guys out there do. It's a tough job and it demands the best. And by golly, it ought to pay the best too.
 
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I recieved the following PM and thought I would post my response here as well as PM back. Sorry, it's a long response but worth reading if you know little about Wal-Mart and its treatment of store employees.

Originally Posted by unotrucking
That's a bold statement. How do you back up the claim you make about walmart associates being treated badly? Which store do you work at? Or are you a driver for Wal-mart? Please tell me how you come to such a conclusion and please include this 'treatment' of which you speak
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:04 pm
Subject: Re: Back it Up
You want facts? Here you go. No opinions here only facts along with the source and dates.

FACT: In 2000, Wal-Mart paid $50 million to settle a lawsuit that involved 69,000 workers in Colorado who had allegedly been forced to work off the clock. In 2002, a federal grand jury in Oregon found Wal-Mart employees were forced to work off the clock and awarded back pay to 83 workers. In December 2005, Wal-Mart was ordered to pay $172 million to 116,000 current and former California workers [New York Times, 11/19/04; Associated Press, 2/17/04; Associated Press, 9/19/05; Associated Press, 12/22/05.]
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FACT: Wal-Mart has received numerous fines for violating the Family and Medical Leave Act in locations all over the country -- firing workers while on federally protected medical leave. In 2005, Wal-Mart was fined $188,000 by the California Fair Employment and Housing Commission for violating California state law by failing to reinstate a woman after she completed her maternity leave. [U.S. Department of Labor, via Freedom of Information Act; California Department of Fair Employment and Housing, case no. E 200203 M-0774-00-pe, C 03-04-026; Sacramento Bee, 6/14/05.]

FACT: Fewer than half of its employees are covered by health insurance. According to Wal-Mart's own website, "In January 2006, the number of associates covered by Wal-Mart health care insurance increased to 46%."

FACT: Wal-Mart provides health care options to their employees and families that have a deductible of $1,000 for individuals and $3,000 for families. Wal-Mart employees must endure long waits to qualify for benefits: six months for full-time employees and one year for part-time employees. [Wal-Mart 2006 Associate Benefits Book; Wal-Mart Press Release, 4/17/06]

FACT: Less Money for Benefits than Other Firms. In September 2003, Wall Street Journal reported, "Last year, average spending on health benefits for each of the company's roughly 500,000 covered employees was $3,500, almost 40% less than the average for all U.S. corporations and 30% less than the rest of the wholesale/retail industry, according to estimates by Mercer Human Resource Consulting, a unit of Marsh & McLennan Cos." [Wall Street Journal, 9/30/03]

FACT: Letting Workers and Families Rely on Public Programs. A memo written by Susan Chambers, Wal-Mart Executive Vice President for Benefits, for the Wal-Mart Board of Directors, said: "We also have a significant number of Associates and their children who receive health insurance through public-assistance programs. Five percent of our Associates are on Medicaid compared to an average for national employers of 4 percent. Twenty-seven percent of Associates' children are on such programs, compared to a national average of 22 percent (Exhibit 5). In total, 46 percent of Associates' children are either on Medicaid or are uninsured." Chambers wrote, "Wal-Mart's critics an easily exploit some aspects of our benefits offering to make their case; in other words, our critics are correct in some of their observations. Specifically, our coverage is expensive for low-income families, and Wal-Mart has a significant percentage of associates and their children on public assistance.'' [Susan Chambers Memo to the Wal-Mart Board of Directors; New York Times, 10/26/05]

FACT: Topping State Rankings of Employees on Public Care. In 23 states, Wal-Mart leads the list of companies with the most employees and dependents enrolled in state-funded health care programs. In all states that have released such data -- Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin -- Wal-Mart tops the list. In Arkansas, where Wal-Mart's own headquarters is located, 3,971 of Wal-Mart's 45,106 employees are on public assistance. [Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 3/17/05; Arizona Republic, 7/30/05 and 1/01/05; UC Berkeley Labor Center, 8/2/04; Federal Register Source; Associated Press, 3/3/05; St. Petersburg Times, 3/25/05; Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 2/27/04; Associated Press, 3/4/05; Institute for Local Self-Reliance 6/28/05; Mass. Executive Office of Health and Human Services 2/1/05; Great Falls Tribune, 6/26/05; Omaha World-Herald, 10/19/05; Associated Press, 5/12/05; New Jersey Policy Perspective 08/05; Ohio Dept. of Job and Family Services 3/1/06; Philadelphia Inquirer, 3/2/06; Chattanooga Times Free Press, 1/20/05; Salt Lake Tribune, 2/5/06; Vermont Guardian, 4/18/05; Seattle Times, 1/24/06; Charleston Gazette, 12/26/04; The Capital Times, 11/4/04; Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel]

FACT: Shifting Employees to Part-Time Status. A memo written by Susan Chambers, Wal-Mart Executive Vice President for Benefits, for the Wal-Mart Board of Directors, recommended: "Capture savings from current initiatives to improve labor productivity. These initiatives include reducing the number of labor hours per store, increasing the percentage of part-time Associates in stores, and increasing the number of hours per Associate." [Susan Chambers Memo to the Wal-Mart Board of Directors, http://walmartwatch.com/memo; New York Times, 10/26/05]

FACT: Admitting to a Part-Time Strategy. "Wal-Mart executives have acknowledged that the retailer will also shift to a heavier reliance on part-time workers, who now account for roughly 20% of the work force, higher than the national average for retailers. A recent JP Morgan report said Wal-Mart plans to increase the ratio of its 1.2 million-member U.S. hourly work force on part-time schedules to 40% from 20%, meaning the hours of as many as 240,000 workers could be cut below 34 a week, the threshold to be considered full-time." [Wall Street Journal, 4/11/06]

FACT: Phasing Full-Timers Out. Citigroup analyst Deborah Weinswig predicted that Wal-Mart's proportion of full-time workers is declining. In a 60-page research report, she predicted that "Wal-Mart will reduce its ratio of full-time workers to 60 percent over the next year or two, with the remaining 40 percent slated for part-time status. Wal-Mart's proportion of full-time U.S. workers -- which currently stands at about 75 percent -- could further fall to 50 percent in the future." [Associated Press, 5/3/06]

FACT: Forcing Higher Medicaid Spending. Michael Hicks, an economist at the Air Force Institute of Technology at the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, conducted a study analyzing state Medicaid data from 1978 to 2003 and found that Wal-Mart causes an increase in state Medicaid spending by as much as $898 per person. [Business Week, 10/26/05]

FACT: Refuses to Release Median Wage. To defend its treatment of workers, Wal-Mart releases statistics on its average hourly wage for full-time employees. The store has never, however, published its median wage -- a data point that would give a clearer sense of what workers earn. Instead, the store uses misleading language that masks the fact that managers earn higher wages than floor workers -- a fact that skews the "average" wage of 'store associates' -- and refuses to release wage levels for specific job functions. [Walmartfacts.com]

FACT: Opposed Release of Health Insurance Statistics. In 2005, Minnesota legislators introduced a bill that would require state agencies to gather and publish data about whether the employees and family members of Wal-Mart and other large employers use the state's public assistance programs. Wal-Mart sent two officials to St. Paul to lobby against the bill, and sent legislators a two-page letter stating the company's opposition to the law. [Minneapolis Star Tribune, 6/2/05]

FACT: Misled Legislators About Pushing Employees to Public Assistance. In a letter to state legislators, Wal-Mart wrote that they "provide the mechanism for associates to remove themselves from public assistance" and that they "certainly don't encourage our associates to apply for public health benefits." Documents bearing the Wal-Mart logo, however, revealed that Wal-Mart issues printed "Instructions for Associates" that tell employees how to sign up for public assistance. Wal-Mart CEO Lee Scott has said: "There are government assistance programs out there that are so lucrative it's hard to be competitive, and it's expensive to be competitive." [Wal-Mart Letter to State Legislators, 6/20/05; Wal-Mart Social Services Documents; St. Louis Post Dispatch, 4/6/05]

 
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:34 PM
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The biggest item in that list in my opinion is how A LOT of Wal-Mart employees are also receiving government assistance. And they admit it! :shock:

But I parrot the assumption that the drivers likely do very well as far as wages are concerned.

I pulled Wal-Mart trailers for the 3 weeks ahead of Thanksgiving back in 2002 driving a JB Hunt tractor. Easiest money I ever made with JB Hunt, including a trip from Newport, TN to Oregon and back to Kentucky. It was simply back and forth from DC to store dropping loaded trailers and bringing back empties. Imagine 3 weeks of not talking to regular dispatch! :P
 
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A lot of the big corporations do pretty much the same thing .
 
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Can anyone who works for walmart confirm that they give out such good pay?

It seems hard to belive they would pay drivers such good wages. They pay minimum wage to all the other associates. Jeeze, I even make more money than an Assistant Manger and some Store Managers, and I work as a Security Officer!

I know, I used to work for walmart: unloading those 53' trailers, all crates and few pallets, for only $6.20 an hour, and had to do it in 2 hours with only 4 other employees. Medical insurace? Ha! Expensive and out of reach.
 
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