[GMAN]

Actually, GOD calls each of us to publicly acknowledge him and to share our faith.

[sinclac]

Do i believe yes do i worship no!

[Hanged_Man]

Sinclac your link is busted. You didn't include the . after www.

[long_hauler2005]

Born again heathen. I believe on the Lord God Almighty, the maker of heaven and earth. And His Son, born of the virgin Mary, whom died on the Cross, shedding his sinless blood that we may have everlasting atonement.

If womeone wants proof that God exists, open your eyes as you travel down the big Road. Ever wonder why a sunset is so brilliant and pleasing to the eye?

How about the engineering of a simple banana? Do you think that is a freak of nature? A fruit, whos skin when peeled back separates into three folds that shelter the hand and keeps it from getting dirty?

How about the most massive and succesful recycling system known to man... an animal dies in the woods, falling to the ground... what happens to the matter in this animal? It is consumed, used as fuel for other animals, even our heating and go juice in our rigs.

Water... what happens to it? Does it disappear after we drink it?

think aobut these small insignificant questions, then open your eyes non-believer.

Now, do I worship.... I am sad to say no... I am not the Christian I should be, and regret it everyday.

OK... another rant.... sheesh.... I am racking them up today.... Sorry folks... but had to get that off my chest.

[Hanged_Man]

Just because things are magnificent to you and impossible to comprehend how they got to be that way doesn't mean God exists. The only thing that means God exists is the existence of God so if you didn't see God directly you can't honestly say you have proof he exists. All you can say is that it is unlikely that he doesn't exist, at least from a scientific definition of proof.

[GMAN]

Everything had to come from somewhere. If you doubt the existence of GOD just look around you. Could a beautiful sunset just happen? What about how all living things are so inter dependent. We live in an ordered universe. Everything has its place. Take one thing out of its place and it messes everything else up. Even the human body. Imagine what it took to make it work so perfectly. I don't think that everything we see and experience just happened. Can we prove conclusively that GOD exists? It seems that every time someone tries to disprove a part of the Bible, they wind up proving it correct.

[Hanged_Man]

The sunset isn't beautiful, it just is what it is. The fact that you consider it beautiful says something about you, not the sunset. It isn't just living things that are interdependent. Take a look at a house, it wouldn't have a second floor if it didn't have a first floor and it would fall down, or wouldn't keep you warm and so on if certain conditions weren't met. They call them laws of physics not laws of God because our world is described scientifically and naturally after millions of years of evolution all you see are the things that are still around. But there are tons of things in nature that have been tried and failed and are therefore no longer around. Did God make these failed things that are now extinct because he was having a bad day? You try different things, and the other things in nature tries different things, and sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't. Again, the fact that you have abilities and desires and a will and what ever else you have only proves those things, it doesn't prove where they came from.

The fact that everything had to come from somewhere means that God had to come from somewhere so that means that there was something before God that created God (Catch 22 here), or that means that your assumption that everything had to come from somewhere is not correct. Or if God created himself what did he use to create himself with if there was no universe or anything at all, not even a void of nothing. What would cause a God to create himself anyway if there was nothing, not even a spec of space to wish for there to be a God. If God always existed, how could God have always existed? There has to be a beginning right? If God exists, then he began sometime did he not?

[Maveric]

Here is another fun point to make on the whole "God" issue. What is to say that I Maveric am not "God"? First, you cannot question me as "God" otherwise you have lost your faith and must repent unto me for forgiveness to enter the kingdom of god. Second, as many have stated, it is faith not proof that is needed so therefore I don't need to perform a miracle to be "god". And since I work in mysterious ways, how do you know if I am or am not "god".

So....... am I GOD?

Now, remember the "rules" of religion. You must have blind faith, you can't question me as God.

So now explain to me how I am not God.

[Hanged_Man]

Originally Posted by Maveric

So now explain to me how I am not God.

Because of Freud and his "Freudian slip" rule. In the first two sentences you referred to God as a third party, rather than the 1st person so you don't have faith that you are God, therefore you are not, because it requires blind faith.

[Maveric]

Originally Posted by Hanged_Man

Because of Freud and his "Freudian slip" rule. In the first two sentences you referred to God as a third party, rather than the 1st person so you don't have faith that you are God, therefore you are not, because it requires blind faith.

Hey, that was really good!!! Your the first person EVER to pick up on that!!

and no I am not god, and if there is a god, I wouldn't want the job.