Hamlin needs a butt kicking, he was in the wrong and when Kyle let him know it, he wanted to go fight Kyle. Go back to Petersburg you ungrateful prick.

 

Right on. Kyle is old school, like Jimmy Spencer. It takes a lot of guts to attack a guy that is strapped into his car.

 

What are you getting at Rock?? Denny didn't try to attack Kyle in his car though some will say Kyle attacked Denny in his car. In reality, Kyle did not attack him, he just slapped his visor shut aka:"I'm finished talking with you about this." Denny then jumped out of his car and tried to go after Kyle. He even admitted that he was after him to do some talking with his fists.

Kurt Busch deserved to be socked one even if he was helpless while strapped in his seat still. He and his crew chief had conspired to knock Jimmy's fender in and flatten his tire also. That was very bush league and dangerous.

 

damn-I missed all that-Was watching my Pack beat SD

 

What I am talking about is that both Spencer and Petty are wimps for going after someone strapped in their car. I don't care if Petty only slapped Hamlin's shield down, it was a nancy move. Petty should not have even been near the #11 car. He didn't get a fine because of his name. I have to agree with what Hamlin said this past weekend. At least he got where he is by racing, not by family name and money.

 

Hamlin did get where he is due to money. He is too frickin blind to see it. About as blind as running into the back of Petty and then acting like it was Petty's fault. Anyone that races these days, even local have to have some type of money. You don't see any dirt poor racers out there anymore just trying to make a living. Hamlin's parents were about to pull the plug on his driving because they were down to where they were not able to pay their regular bills when he caught a lucky break.

 

You only illustrate what Hamlin is saying. Any sport requires money to get started. Many racer's parents chose to spend their savings on their child's dream. Gordon, Johnson, Hamlin, Edwards, Stewart, and most of the other drivers come from comfortable backgrounds where their parents made a conscious decision to get their son in racing. Dale Jr. and Kyle, among others, come from racing families with money. If you can't see the difference, you are blind.

That doesn't even take in the fact that all the non-racing family drivers needed talent to get where they are. Kyle seems to be lacking in that department. Jr. will finally have to prove if he has any when he can't blame his equipment any more.

Just look at what Kyle was mad about. If he gets bounced out of the top 35, he may have to qualify on speed and talent. Obviously, he has plenty to be worried about.

None of this changes the fact that he was afraid to wag his finger in Hamlin's face when he was not strapped into his car.

 

Ummm, are you late to the party, Kyle has talent just not the equipment and oh by the way he is supposed to be 6 years into retirement. The only reason he is still racing is because his son was killed, that is his son's car and he has said that numerous times. Your just like every other critic out there of a son who has to follow in their father's footsteps. Kyle will never be as great as Richard just like Junior will never be as great as Senior and Steven will never be as great as Rusty. Everyone with a brain knew Kyle would never live up to that rep, even his dad knew it. How good is Kyle, he went out and won his very first ARCA race in '79 with a POS car that Richard didn't want to run anymore. Finished 8th in his very first Cup start. Got into Cup with Petty Enterprises when Petty Enterprises was on the downslide, hence Richard only won 10 times in that same 5 1/2 year span vs 23 the previous 5 year span. As a team, Petty only has 3 wins since 1983, it's the equipment not the talent. Guess you could say Bobby Labonte has no talent since he can't win at Petty. :lol: Kyle has won 8 Cup races while driving for the Wood Brothers and Felix Sabates but no wins with Petty. Hamlin has 3 wins and feels that he can run his mouth now.

Richard never had money, have you seen their race shop compared to all the others?? It's tiny as heck and when Kyle started, they were still working out of a little old garage with antiquated tools. Look at some older pics if you can find them and you will see what I mean.

The reason Kyle is mad if he gets bounced out of the Top 35 is because he knows the equipment cannot match what he needs to get out of it to get in the show. If he starts missing races, it hurts the whole organization who direly needs all the money they can get from sponsors, TV money and race winnings. Again his talent will only get the car so far, he simply doesn't have the equipment and he knows it. Let Hamlin get in that car and see what he does with it, bet a Buffalo Nickel he might pick up half a tenth.

Junior didn't get where he is due to money and name, his daddy made him earn it. Did you miss how Senior never helped him with car setups in the local Late Model races?? He made Junior figure them out himself. The only times he helped Junior, one was at Myrtle Beach and the other was when Junior decided to take up racing. He gave Junior a chassis and told him that if he wanted to race, he had to put the car together himself. He never gave Junior a dime towards the race car. The other was with another driver who kept wrecking Junior on purpose everytime Junior tried to pass him. All Senior did was tell him how to fake him out and then hook the SOB into the fence.

Guess you missed it when Kyle went after several drivers earlier in his career who did him wrong. They were not strapped in their cars. What was he supposed to do with Hamlin, wait till he got out?? Hamlin had no intentions of getting out because he thought he was in the right for dumping Kyle.

 

Nice history lesson. Unfortunately, that's what Kyle's talent is...history. For someone who is broke, Petty seems to have a pretty good business going. If Kyle cannot get the job done (and he can't), he should hire an up and coming driver like Hamlin. Hamlin looks like he might actually win a cup title in his career span. By the way, what race did you watch? The one I saw, Petty admitted he was not as good as Hamlin, and Hamlin sure hopped out of that car pretty quick when Kyle started with the cheap shots. Funny thing is, I do agree with Kyle's statements he made after the altercation. I just think slapping a guy strapped in the car is the action of someone who is a wimp. Maybe Kyle realizes that just because he has a pony tail does not mean he is a tough guy.

By the way, Dale Sr. did help Jr., even by your admission. He gave him the equipment to start, and I'm sure Jr. had access to people that could give him advice that drivers without a famous daddy couldn't get. Still family name and money backing him. Rick Hendrick even said as much when he hired him, saying he owed Sr. No matter how much you discount that name, or a small shop in Petty's case, a family that has been in the business for a generation or more still gives a huge advantage to the next generation in the family.

 

Kyle has a young driver, he doesn't want to just throw him to the wolves though. Chad McCumbee is that driver. Kyle had Brian Vickers in the mix a while ago and Hendrick came calling. Kyle told him to make the switch because he could not offer the pay or great equipment that Hendrick had.

He gave Junior the equipment to start.......do you know how much a tube chassis cost back then?? They do not cost that much.