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Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
I never knew this thread was here. I guess I've over-looked it. I just went through the thread, and to answer Windwalker's question... I believe in the Bible. I believe it is God's Holy word. I am a Christian. I accepted Christ as my Savior when I was 9 years old. I am Southern Baptist. Saying that, I will also tell you that I am not perfect. I (we) have a sinful nature. I say things that I shouldn't. I curse at times. I am short tempered, and there have been times that I have said or done things that I did without thinking.
A lot of people will say, 'the Bible was written by men'. True, but the prophets, the disciples, and writers were inspired of God. 2 Timothy 3:16 - All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
I also believe that there is a reason why we have all these weather disasters. Some may say, "Would God really destroy these people, and countries, etc? Why would God do such a thing." I think about Revelation 2:4-5 - Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love. 5 Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place—unless you repent.
I reckon that applies to us, 2000 years later. I also think about the Israelites, when they made the golden calf, after they were rescued from Egypt.
Exodus 32:9-14 - "I have seen these people," the LORD said to Moses, "and they are a stiff-necked people. 10 Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation."
11 But Moses sought the favor of the LORD his God. "O LORD," he said, "why should your anger burn against your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians say, 'It was with evil intent that he brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to wipe them off the face of the earth'? Turn from your fierce anger; relent and do not bring disaster on your people. 13 Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: 'I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.' " 14 Then the LORD relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.
As far as the politics goes, and where our country is going? I have no idea. I don't know what's going to happen. I can't keep up with it all. There are so many things that is trying to get passed it's unreal. I think, Congress, (or whoever is in charge of impeaching) should impeach Obama before he ruins this great nation. I'm sure I will get some flack for saying that, but I think the standards, all the great things this country was founded on is going out the window. I'm praying that God will keep this nation together, and keep it from falling apart.
Welcome aboard. Be sure to join us in June of 09...
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The whole point of the thread was not to discredit the Bible. Instead, it was to look at our own preception of it. Do we take it chapter and verse, word for word? Or do we understand that there may have been changes in the meanings of some parts, and even parts left out as things were translated from one language to another. We also have to look at the level of technology of the authors of the Bible, and the wording and explanations they had available to them, to explain what happened in and around their society. We all grew up with the picture of the waters of the Red Sea, a huge wall of water on either side of a pathway across the bottom of the sea. Not accurate. Archeology now has the evidence that it was not the Red Sea, but some 70 miles north at the Reed Sea. But, both bodies of water enjoyed exactly the same spelling in the language of the Hebrews at he time of Exodus.
The Biblical "Time Frame" is also out of step. According to Biblical experts, the Flood of Noah happened in November of 2345 BC. Yet, while archeology and geology both confirm that the flood certainly did happen, the physical evidence (clay deposits near the tops of mountains that could only have gotten there by flood waters.) states that it happened in 2845 BC. While the Bible would have us believe that the flood was universal and only Noah and his family survived the flood, a colony of Cro-Magnon survived into the 15th century AD on the Canary Islands. (Cro-Magnon reigned upon the earth from 40,000 BC to 8,000 BC in the rest of the world. Then, modern man, "our species" took over.) They were about slaughtered by the Spanish in the second half of the 15th century. So, the Flood of Noah could not have affected the entire world. And, if you think about it, a flood caused by rain does not do much to the sediment at the bottom of a lake. So, even raining for 40 days and 40 nights would not have brought the clay up to the tops of the mountains.
However, recently, science has uncovered evidence that a comet struck the earth some distance east of Madagascar. While they can not say just how large the comet was, computer models of a comet striking the Pacific one hundred miles west of San Francisco would produce enough heat to incinerate the city, and generate a tsunami that would destroy about one half of the earth's population. That would be for a comet about 3 miles in diameter. They come smaller, but they also come larger. It would make the one tsunami (this century) that killed thousands along the Asian Coastline look like a ripple on a pond.
The comet that struck the earth happened about 4800 years ago. Now, do the math. About 2845 BC that the clay deposits were left near the tops of mountains by a flood. Plus 2000 years AD. About 4800 years ago. Scientifically, that's close enough to be in the same church, same pew, same preacher, and the same service. Now, look at the location of the Canary Islands. They have an entire continent between them and the impact zone. All they got was weeks of rain. So, Noah and his family were not the only survivors. They were simply the only survivors in the "known world". It would also explain how a flood could cover mountain tops, when there is not enough water in the whole world to raise the ocean above the waist of the Statue of Liberty.
And, it does not end there. There are many more instances where science agrees, and even corrects the timing of the Bible, but this is enough to chew on for now.