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Can several DOT officers be wrong? Yes.... they can. Can ALL of us truckers on this site be wrong? NO.... we can't! But.... there are MANY on here who don't/didn't understand the HOS.... and it has ALL been explained many times before. DO THE RESEARCH on our previous threads, and then IF you still don't understand.... one of us will go through it all over again for you. That's part of what we DO here! :wink:
Always here. Always willing to help.
Hobo
Ok, in your explanation, you would get back the hours from day 1 on the 9th day. Well if you onlu used 8 or so hours on day one then that is all you would get to use on day nine. Day ten you would only get back the hours you used on day 2 and so on and so forth. Originally Posted by golfhobo
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Legally.... per the HOS regulations.
I know that the 14 hour daily clock does not stop unless you stop for 8 hours or more.
Not exactly true.
I know that I can have a total of 70 hours of working time while in the truck and that I need to take a break after said 70 hours.
Wrong.
Dot has told me that I need to take a minimum of 34 hours after putting in a 70 hour week.
Wrong. No they didn't. You misunderstood them.
But then can dot officers from so many states be wrong on this?
Well..... that is always possible.... but, I doubt it. You misunderstood them.
I know one driver very well, and he was put out of service. He worked his 70, stopped for a 10 and tried going back to work again, got stopped and checked and was put OOS for 34 hours.
Because he "burned" his 70 in LESS than 8 days, so 10 hours off wasn't enough to allow him to DRIVE again. Neither HE... nor YOU.... understand the regs.
The runs we do run right on the edge of 11 hours total driving time then add pti and fueling along with loading and unloading and it comes to over 12 hours a day if things go good. Many times I am pushing hard against the 14 hour clock.
So, you are burning your 70 hours (ALLOWED within 8 days) in about 6 days! If you do this, you WILL need a 34 hour reset, which is LESS time than it would take to gain back hours.
So if I am lucky I run out of hours in about 6 days but most of the time I am out in 5 days with only a couple hours to spare.
So YOU would need a 34 hour reset to get back on the road the soonest! It is not MANDATORY that you burn your hours so quickly.
Rat: I am not trying to be "flippant" here. But, it is obvious that you don't understand the HOS regs. No shame.... MANY new drivers don't! Before WE go through it all again, how about scrolling down through this and earlier pages on this subforum and click on EVERY thread about HOS?Originally Posted by Rat
Ok then, how does someone legally gain back hours from the first day? Legally.... per the HOS regulations.
I know that the 14 hour daily clock does not stop unless you stop for 8 hours or more.
Not exactly true.
I know that I can have a total of 70 hours of working time while in the truck and that I need to take a break after said 70 hours.
Wrong.
Dot has told me that I need to take a minimum of 34 hours after putting in a 70 hour week.
Wrong. No they didn't. You misunderstood them.
But then can dot officers from so many states be wrong on this?
Well..... that is always possible.... but, I doubt it. You misunderstood them.
I know one driver very well, and he was put out of service. He worked his 70, stopped for a 10 and tried going back to work again, got stopped and checked and was put OOS for 34 hours.
Because he "burned" his 70 in LESS than 8 days, so 10 hours off wasn't enough to allow him to DRIVE again. Neither HE... nor YOU.... understand the regs.
The runs we do run right on the edge of 11 hours total driving time then add pti and fueling along with loading and unloading and it comes to over 12 hours a day if things go good. Many times I am pushing hard against the 14 hour clock.
So, you are burning your 70 hours (ALLOWED within 8 days) in about 6 days! If you do this, you WILL need a 34 hour reset, which is LESS time than it would take to gain back hours.
So if I am lucky I run out of hours in about 6 days but most of the time I am out in 5 days with only a couple hours to spare.
So YOU would need a 34 hour reset to get back on the road the soonest! It is not MANDATORY that you burn your hours so quickly.
Can several DOT officers be wrong? Yes.... they can. Can ALL of us truckers on this site be wrong? NO.... we can't! But.... there are MANY on here who don't/didn't understand the HOS.... and it has ALL been explained many times before. DO THE RESEARCH on our previous threads, and then IF you still don't understand.... one of us will go through it all over again for you. That's part of what we DO here! :wink:
Always here. Always willing to help.
Hobo
So if day 9 came and you had a 9 or 10 hour day infront of you to complete your run then this would mean that you could not complete your run because you would only have those hours that you used on day one. Correct.
Now the thing that bothers me is that I made a call to the FMCSA yesterday to backup this 34 hour restart. According to them you must take a 34 hour no matter if you run out of hours on day 5 or day 8.
The reason they stated is so that a driver has atlest 2 nights and one day of rest before starting another tour of duty (8 day/70 hour week).
So any driver caught driving on day nine or driving after doing a 70 tour without a 34 restart would be in violation.
I don't know but maybe there is a huge mixup somewere pertaining to this topic.
I am not going to get into split berthing as that is a mess all of its own. Bassically, don't do it if you need a full 11 hour driving day along with 3 hours of onduty ahead of you.