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okie 10-29-2008 11:06 PM

Logging in the Suburbs
 
Quick question on logging. We have a suburb of Tulsa that grew so quickly that the city of Tulsa was asked to annex it. This was for Fire and Police protection as is my understanding. This town is located on the south side of Tulsa, requiring us to drive the entire way across Tulsa to get to it. How do I log it? I know its Bixby, you pass several businesses that say Bixby. But computer and paperwork say Tulsa. Similar situation in Wichita. Is this one of those "either will be fine" situations? Take a nice hit on the miles too.

Uturn2001 10-30-2008 12:37 AM

Technically and legally you should log the location of your stop as whatever the physical address is of the place you are stopping at. If you are unsure ask the shipping/receiving clerk. If you are concerned about logs not matching freight bills you can always add the city the bills say in parenthesis, ie Bixby (Tulsa), Ok.

Since city limits can get confusing in metro areas you won't get nailed to the wall by logging it to the best of your knowledge. There have been places I have been to where the office is in "Smith" at the front of the building but the warehouse at the back of the plant is in "Jones". Now how is that for a brain teaser. :eek1:

rkeck 10-30-2008 11:53 AM

Just log it however works to your advantage. It's doubtful it'll ever come up in an audit either way but if so just act dumb and say "ok"

Double R 10-30-2008 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by rkeck (Post 420835)
Just log it however works to your advantage. It's doubtful it'll ever come up in an audit either way but if so just act dumb and say "ok"

Ya, just log it illegal like he said.:thumbsdown:

belpre122 10-30-2008 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by okie (Post 420753)
Quick question on logging.

No such thing on CAD.com okie! :)


Originally Posted by okie (Post 420753)
We have a suburb of Tulsa that grew so quickly that the city of Tulsa was asked to annex it. This was for Fire and Police protection as is my understanding. This town is located on the south side of Tulsa, requiring us to drive the entire way across Tulsa to get to it.

Great question okie!!!

I have been round and round with the folks on this board, as well as the professional "compliance" experts that are highly paid to deliver safety seminars at my company. To date, none of the above have been able and/or willing to tie themselves to a definite answer to the question of how to log metro areas.

So therefore...................


Originally Posted by okie (Post 420753)
How do I log it? I know its Bixby, you pass several businesses that say Bixby. But computer and paperwork say Tulsa. Similar situation in Wichita. Is this one of those "either will be fine" situations? Take a nice hit on the miles too.

Log it as Bixby. You can never go wrong by logging the smaller locality. This is considered a more "accurate and compliant method of logging." You'll never have a problem logging the truth.

Just ask any of the OTR pundits here.............................................. ....;)

Ex..........The Indianapolis Motor Speedway is actually in Speedway, Indiana...............not Indianapolis.:thumbsup:

rkeck 10-31-2008 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by Double R (Post 420837)
Ya, just log it illegal like he said.:thumbsdown:

Based on what would he be logging it illegal logging it Tulsa? The way I see it he's right to log it Tulsa .. or Bixby. When neither will get you cited if push comes to shove, why not use the one that works to your advantage?

It's people like you that have made this profession more of a hassle than it needs to be. Lighten up.

Jackrabbit379 10-31-2008 04:33 AM

Wow, Tulsa must really be getting "big time".

Double R 10-31-2008 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by rkeck (Post 420897)
Based on what would he be logging it illegal logging it Tulsa? The way I see it he's right to log it Tulsa .. or Bixby. When neither will get you cited if push comes to shove, why not use the one that works to your advantage?

It's people like you that have made this profession more of a hassle than it needs to be. Lighten up.

Here lies the problem with your answer:

Just log it however works to your advantage.
and

just act dumb and say "ok"
1)Log what the BOL says the town and/or city is.
2)Playing "DUMB" is not an excuse. Learn the regs!

It's people like YOU that make this industry the disgrace that it is today!

LIGHTEN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Myth_Buster 11-01-2008 05:54 AM

South Chicago is not Chicago, Ford Heights is not Chciago, Bixby is not Tulsa.

Look at your street map... If you're on Memorial Drive and turn east on 146th Street then most likely you're in Bixby.

Use your resources make an educated guess and be prepared to justify your reasoning.... Provided the reasoning has merit then you have justification in your logging practices.

EORBs use satellite tracking and longitude latitude references for positioning...

EORBs are looming on the horizon, those who get creative in their logging will most likely be the first to experience EORBs, those who log it as they drive it will be the last to experience EOBRs.

Your choice.

Be safe.

jegzus 11-01-2008 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Double R (Post 421000)
Here lies the problem with your answer:

and

1)Log what the BOL says the town and/or city is.
2)Playing "DUMB" is not an excuse. Learn the regs!

It's people like YOU that make this industry the disgrace that it is today!

LIGHTEN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW...you might want to actually get in a truck and make a few deliveries before your armchair rig falls apart brother.

And as a veteran trucker you should know that most companies do not use their physical address on the bills. More times than not it is a convienent address that the white shirts use for mail.


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