Armchair rig? Now THAT is funny. Go do 10-15 stops a day like I do and then tell me I drive a arm chair rig. And that is in a tractor trailer. And just so you know, ALL my BOLs have to have the PHYSICAL delivery address on them. Without the address, they get no product!

what you need to do is before you log it, call rev or golfhobo and ask them what to do, this way, you will be assured of getting both answers which will increase your chances of doing it right.

I do almost the same exact job as you, except I go a little farther in miles each day. So don't think I'm impressed with your 10-15 stops a day.

For guys like us who deliver to small companies they do use the physical address. But many large companies to not, which is has been my experience in the past.

My street address is for Canton oh. I actually live in Jackson ohio. (half of jackson has a massillon address half has canton. why? no post office.) how do I log it? lmfao maybe I should put the longitude and latitude. The north canton TA that is listed as the north canton TA and has a north canton address is actually located in Jackson ohio. so everyone that logs it as north canton is lying on there logs and breaking the law and going to hell... get over yourself and stop being so anal.

we will probably never see complete use of EOBRs as the cost is to prohibitive both in lost revenue for DOT and other LEA and the increase in the cost of shipping. its similar to the war on drugs. no one really wants to win the war as it would cost to much in lost revenue and jobs. we just wanna look like we are trying so we can spend billions and make money with jails, fines, etc etc etc.

Got Mud says:

And what of the dirty driver and carrier who falsify their records to make an extra buck or three? It amazes me how many folks try and denie culpability when they're caught red handed and then stutter and stammer as they try and justify the false records.

It's OK Got Mud, its job security for me.... There are a sufficent number of drivers and carriers who disregard the rules and it's not that hard to uncover the truth when you look at all of the facts.

In the previous 9 years I can attest to over $1 million in penaties to those who get creative.

MB saving the world one carrier at a time.

Be safe.

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exactly myth-buster that is my point. why would the powers that be want to lose all that revenue? they don't. i'm not saying its right or wrong. just stating an opinion of why things are the way they are. it makes money. if you really wanted to change things you would be fixing the problems that cause drivers to falsify there logs. contrary to popular belief its not always greed. shippers and recievers taking for ever to load and unload. limited parking and facilities etc etc.

Got Mud:

It's all perception GM, the LEO sees equipment with poor maintenance and it is assumed the lack of maintenance is money related. It's common knowledge that safety is first to take a hit as the belt tightens as safety has no return.

Regarding falsification, the DOT gives carriers 10% for management, IOW, if I look at 150 days of logs and there are 10 violations the false logs have no impact on the carrier's rating. On the other hand if there are 150 days examined and 15 vioations are discovered it has an impact on the carrier's safety rating.

Regarding the situation of shippers and carriers taking forever to load.... The driver feels pressured to falsify their log to hide the waiting time that affected their 14 hour rule. The pressure the driver felt is because many drivers are paid by the mile and the time waiting is lost revenue. For the hourly driver they falsify to ensure they don't exceed the 14 hour rule.

Not to disagree but I've seen false logs by hourly workers and mile workers... It all boils back down to money.

Carriers allow drivers to falsify their records to ensure their customers remain satisfied and freight is delivered on-time. Do some carriers expect too much of their drivers? Yes, do some driver follow Larry the Cable Guy's mentality of "Get-er-done." Yes. Does the violation of the safety regs potentially put human life at stake... Yes.

I've participated in three NTSB investigations and two criminal investigations, my comments and concerns are based on drivers who made a bad choice and faced severe consequences later, i.e. jail time.

It's the driver's choice, however, the driver needs to heavily weigh the consequences before doing something stupid because when things go south their freedom weighs in the balance.

Be safe.

I disagree, Bel! How can you MAKE such a stoopid statement?? I may just have to slam your rep for this! :lol2::lol2:

Heck Hobo, I thought that everyone would enjoy the brevity!:smokin: