Originally Posted by Myth_Buster (Post 421433)

Got Mud:



It's all perception GM, the LEO sees equipment with poor maintenance and it is assumed the lack of maintenance is money related. It's common knowledge that safety is first to take a hit as the belt tightens as safety has no return.

Regarding falsification, the DOT gives carriers 10% for management, IOW, if I look at 150 days of logs and there are 10 violations the false logs have no impact on the carrier's rating. On the other hand if there are 150 days examined and 15 vioations are discovered it has an impact on the carrier's safety rating.

Regarding the situation of shippers and carriers taking forever to load.... The driver feels pressured to falsify their log to hide the waiting time that affected their 14 hour rule. The pressure the driver felt is because many drivers are paid by the mile and the time waiting is lost revenue. For the hourly driver they falsify to ensure they don't exceed the 14 hour rule.

Not to disagree but I've seen false logs by hourly workers and mile workers... It all boils back down to money.

Carriers allow drivers to falsify their records to ensure their customers remain satisfied and freight is delivered on-time. Do some carriers expect too much of their drivers? Yes, do some driver follow Larry the Cable Guy's mentality of "Get-er-done." Yes. Does the violation of the safety regs potentially put human life at stake... Yes.

I've participated in three NTSB investigations and two criminal investigations, my comments and concerns are based on drivers who made a bad choice and faced severe consequences later, i.e. jail time.

It's the driver's choice, however, the driver needs to heavily weigh the consequences before doing something stupid because when things go south their freedom weighs in the balance.

Be safe.

Originally Posted by belpre122 (Post 421467)

These so called "professionals" should be welcoming these changes in the name of safety alone..................

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago (Post 421524)

Screw the safety. I welcome the change in the name of better rates.

Originally Posted by Walking Eagle (Post 421735)

Reading the original post I think he is a local delivery driver so unless this Bixby is over a hundred miles from the yard he doesn't need to log anything anyway.

Originally Posted by belpre122 (Post 421762)

Depends on company policy. I haven't been more than 100 miles from the yard for a couple of years, yet am required to keep a full logbook.

Additionally, if I understand correctly. If you are using the the 100 Air Mile Radius logging method, you are limited to a 12 hour shift. Traditional logging will allow you to operate for the full 14 hours. (including utilizing the 16 Hour Short-Haul exception)

Originally Posted by Orangetxguy (Post 422477)

I haven't read the reg's in a while...so I COULD BE WRONG...BUT.....You gotz ta log everythng youz do Gary...because of the weird red thingy on the four sides of your cargo tank...the one that has the little campfire thingy and the black numberz....1203. I'm pretty sure they beat that into our headz back in the day az the reazon we-unz had to log every thingy we-unz did.

:moon::moon::moon:

Originally Posted by Orangetxguy (Post 422477)

Now....On a more serious note.

WHEN you are logging in the suburbs, are you required to have any special work permits?

DO you have to have any special safety equipment for falling objects?

Does the chainsaw have to have a special type muffler to mitigate noise while logging??

:clap::clap::clap: :lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2:

Originally Posted by belpre122 (Post 422490)

Gotta go Stan. Running to Crawfordsville, reload, and then to Kokomo. Then..........back HOME.:bow::moon:

It's a tough life Stan. Somebody has to do it though!:lol:

Be back in a few hours.....................