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09-13-2008, 02:18 PM
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stupid question on totals
one of the guys at work has said that a DOT man in MD told him that he has to total his hours for multiple days off and put them down on the sheet as the total for the day.
not line 1, but at the bottom of the log proper in addition to listing them in the remarks section.
for example, if he had 2 days off for the weekend, line 1 would be 24 hours, the total at the bottom would be 48, and then the check of 2 for # of days off with the days listed under the graph.
our company has always required just the 24 as the total for the day. any comments?
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09-13-2008, 02:42 PM
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Re: stupid question on totals
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one of the guys at work has said that a DOT man in MD told him that he has to total his hours for multiple days off and put them down on the sheet as the total for the day.
not line 1, but at the bottom of the log proper in addition to listing them in the remarks section.
for example, if he had 2 days off for the weekend, line 1 would be 24 hours, the total at the bottom would be 48, and then the check of 2 for # of days off with the days listed under the graph.
our company has always required just the 24 as the total for the day. any comments?
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There are not 48 hours in a day, so putting 48 for the total would be log falsification. Multiple days off duty is referenced in 395.8(f)(10):
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(f)(10) Recording days off duty. Two or more consecutive 24 hour periods off duty may be recorded on one duty status record.
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It would appear that the officer is misunderstanding the reg. In 395.8(f)(11), it states:
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(f)(11) Total hours. The total hours in each duty status: off duty other than in a sleeper berth; off duty in a sleeper berth; driving, and on duty not driving, shall be entered to the right of the grid, the total of such entries shall equal 24 hours.
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As far as what is required in the remarks section, 395.8(h)(5) states that the city and state are required:
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(h)(5) Location - Remarks. The name of the city, town, or village, with State abbreviation where each change of duty status occurs shall be recorded.
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There is no requirement, however, to put any more information in the remarks section other than the city and state:
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Question 23: When the driver's duty status changes, do §395.8(c) or 395.8(h)(5) require a description of on-duty not driving activities ("fueling," "pre-trip," "loading," "unloading,", etc.) in the remarks section in addition to the name of the nearest city, town or village followed by the State abbreviation?
Guidance: No. Many motor carriers require drivers to identify work performed during a change of duty status. Part 395 neither requires nor prohibits this practice.
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09-13-2008, 02:44 PM
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Now wait for Golfhobo to say you're wrong Rev! :lol:
*Hey Golfhobo don't get mad at me for only kidding around*
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Now wait for Golfhobo to say your wrong Rev! :lol:
*Hey Golfhobo don't get mad at me for only kidding around*
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Hey Rev, just a reminder to correct Double L on the use of "your"
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Originally Posted by Fredog
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Originally Posted by Double L
Now wait for Golfhobo to say you're wrong Rev! :lol:
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Hey Rev, just a reminder to correct Double L on the use of "your"
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Huh what correction are you talking about? I don't see a misspelling at all there Fredog. :lol:
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thanks rev, could the requirement listing the days off in the remarks section be for scannable logs only? or more likely the co.?
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thanks rev, could the requirement listing the days off in the remarks section be for scannable logs only? or more likely the co.?
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At most it is a company requirement. But company requirements beyond the scope of the FMCSA regs are not enforced by DOT.
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