emergency circumstances logbook rule?
#11
05-27-2007, 09:53 AM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
YOU said:
They made an effort to know the route they were travelling, whereas you want to pretend that you have no duty to know the route you are travelling.
There were no flashing sign boards, blinking call 511 lights, or other warnings, and I didn't hear anything on the FM radio.
This was just an unpredictable fluke,
Without warning, or signs, etc., (as he said,) he ran into a sudden "construction" backup. It happens to me, too. THIS is what I've been saying for months.
Are you now saying that HIS dispatcher wansn't "required" to check some allknowing list to see if there was a construction backup on his route before dispatching him? He runs the SAME routes all the time! How could HE or his dispatcher NOT know that this was coming? I'm SURE it was announced on the LOCAL AM radio station that morning.... that he SHOULD have been tuned to!
In fact, YOU are being "two faced!" Where is your outrage that HIS dispatcher didn't check every website available, or make PHONE CALLS, before dispatching him on this run..... even JUST before dispatching him??
THAT is what YOU'VE been saying for months!!! Although you didn't let me down, as I expected you to come in this thread and whine and complain. :lol:
Have you ever heard, or would you understand, the phrase: Discretion is the better part of valor? This would be a good chance for you to claim a bit of it. I have done so in the past, even YOU acknowledged it. This could be YOUR chance! :wink:
#12
05-27-2007, 12:59 PM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Silvan said no such thing. They just travel the same route all the time. To a certain extent, so do we. I would think HE had the more prevalent responsibility to know the route HE takes ALL THE TIME.
This was an insane backup. They had seven miles of traffic getting off at the exit, crossing over a four-lane highway, and back onto the Interstate. They were giving priority to the local street, and making the traffic trying to get through the Interstate wait. They were letting about 10 vehicles go, then shutting it down for about 10 minutes. It takes a long time to filter seven miles times two lanes through 10 vehicles at a time. That was the most absurd fuster cluck I've ever seen (wellll, the most absurd fuster cluck I've ever seen on a clear blue day in a relatively rural part of the world.) We never really stopped, but we were only rolling at an average 1.75 mph. It all became clear when I finally got to the exit. Roll about 10 carlengths, then sit for 10 minutes. Repeat. I could have been warned hours in advance, but I wasn't. I don't call 511 unless I have some indication that it's necessary, eg. a blinking sign saying "ACCIDENT AT MM 23 SB, CALL 511 FOR INFO" or "TUNE RADIO TO 1620 FOR TRAFFIC INFO" or something. There was nothing until I was so close to the exit that I might have rolled over if I tried to make it in that short a distance. I got hung out to dry. It had been going on for 10 hours by the time I got there, so I COULD have been warned, but I wasn't. No fleet message, nothing on the CB until too late, nothing on the FM radio. Not that I am legally required to listen to either CB or FM anyway, unless there is a flashing "TUNE RADIO TO" sign, which there was not. Most states would have put up a flashing portable sign for something that was going to run this long. Tennessee didn't. I've run into that kind of thing in the past in that state. Tennessee doesn't seem to be very good at handling this kind of situation.
#13
05-27-2007, 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by silvan
I do know the route. I know where all the construction is. This wasn't construction. It was a truck rollover, apparently with some kind of nasty hazmat involved. Looking back, I see I didn't make that clear.
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