Resigned
#11
04-15-2007, 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Fredog
he said he resigned INSTEAD of taking the test and failing it, so he didnt have a positive test.
#12
04-16-2007, 01:23 AM
Re: re-random
Originally Posted by madpuppy
 ops: Thank You all ! A bit more of my situation- I found out my wife is terminally ill,so I didnt look for a job for about seven months,when I did return to the work force, I found a Great job! Exactly what I wanted, I was in Heaven. Well I passed all the tests, orientation the whole shot. I drove for a month and a half, as I started out on a run, my boss called me into the office, and that is when my world turned upside down. She told me she had just received the report of the Positive test,and asked me if I had a certificate of completion of a sap?. NO, I do not I was not told I had to attend a program. My previous employer, nor my union told me this had to be done!. I told her I would have gone had I known, I`ve been off work 7 months !. Well she told me I could`nt drive until I completed the program!. She asked me to voluntarily quit, so she could re-hire me. Now I have the certificate,and I test twice a week, My boss ( I :sad: want to believe )tells me she wants me back ,but they don`t have any openings right now ! So that is what I am trying to find out, is she just giving me a run-around, or is it a law about the 3 year deal? It is not on my M.V.R. my licence is valid, and I know the previous employer tells the next about positive drug test. I am just trying to find out just how screwed I am ?While the rules require a driver to be removed from driving until he/she has completed an approved SAP program most companies simple terminate the employee. While the company is required to provide the employee with information about the SAP program however most don't. As to your question
So that is what I am trying to find out, is she just giving me a run-around, or is it a law about the 3 year deal?
See http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...307&guidence=Y for additional information on the SAP program. A positive test does create BIG problems and most major truck lines just won't take the chance. Some smaller companies will work with a driver. kc0iv
#13
04-16-2007, 10:20 AM
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Past employers are required to report positive drug tests to all companies that you apply at as part of the background/reference checks.
Drivers who test positive must complete a SAP program before being allowed to return to work, be it with that company or another. Does that answer your question?
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#14
04-17-2007, 02:52 AM
Sorry to hear about all of your woes in life. But I do not understand why people do narcotics when their job is on the line, I do not even eat anything with poppy seeds for fear of a positive test.
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#15
04-17-2007, 09:43 AM
If he was informed to take a drug test and resigned and did not take the test according to dot law; He Failed the drug test plain and simple. Once you are notified to test there is no getting out of it, as per dot regs. You test and either pass or fail, you don't test ,then you fail. It gets written down as a positive result, no if's and's or but's about it. Now as for completing a drug program, well and good, but the insurance companies will not insure you, failed drug test is the top of the line; no no. I am about sure that it is 2 years not 3 years that employers must report it to perspective employers after 2 years mum is the word.
good luck, find a co. that does not use dac.
#16
04-17-2007, 09:45 AM
It is actually 3 years. That was among the regs changed during the last FMCSA overhaul.
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04-17-2007, 11:47 AM
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find a co. that does not use dac.
As soon as the prospective employer calls the past employer(s) for the checks they will report the positive drug test(s).
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#18
04-17-2007, 11:49 AM
Originally Posted by Mars
Sorry to hear about all of your woes in life. But I do not understand why people do narcotics when their job is on the line, I do not even eat anything with poppy seeds for fear of a positive test.
thats funny wirh all the 222's up there...... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#19
04-17-2007, 02:22 PM
That poppy seed thing was a thing of the 80's, and it was a myth then. They can easily tell the difference between heroin, barbs,methadone, opium and some doggone seeds. Take it from a former lab tech, back in the early 80's, so don,t panic.
#20
04-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by jiptwoo
That poppy seed thing was a thing of the 80's, and it was a myth then. They can easily tell the difference between heroin, barbs,methadone, opium and some doggone seeds. Take it from a former lab tech, back in the early 80's, so don,t panic.
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