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Old 03-25-2011, 05:46 AM
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Hey guys,

Just want to make sure I understand the HOS properly, gonna set up an example, as that's how I learn best.

Trucker A takes a load from Toronto to Chicago on June 1st

522 miles, at 60 mph, is just about 9 hours driving, assuming no delays,

On June 2nd, Trucker A drops off the load, and then drives to Joliet to pick up a load on June 3rd.

Joliet - Dallas is 906 miles and takes just over 15 hours, so June 3rd/June 4th are driving, he drops off June 4th pm, he then drives from Dallas to Austin, TX to pick up for June 5th am, 200 miles away, a little over 3 hours.

He picks up a load in Austin to take to St. Louis on June 5th am, which is just under 14 hours and 800 miles away, he has to drop the load by end of day June 7th to be legal?

If so, he would then need a 34 hour restart to drive correct?

And yes, I know the stars would have to be aligned perfectly to get loads that evenly spaced out, I am just testing my knowledge of the HOS.

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Old 03-25-2011, 08:48 AM
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Did driver A do pretrips how about fueling,load or unload? You left that stuff out, there's more to it than just driveing. Log as you drive it and drive it legal
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Old 03-25-2011, 02:13 PM
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Did driver A do pretrips how about fueling,load or unload? You left that stuff out, there's more to it than just driveing. Log as you drive it and drive it legal
LOL.... Lot's of stuff was left out for certain!! Of course.....the driver might have a boat load of luck and can clear Customs in record time! Both directions!
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he has to drop the load by end of day June 7th to be legal?
If so, he would then need a 34 hour restart to drive correct?
I didn't add up the driving hours but it doesn't seem like he's out of driving driving time. And you didn't mention how much on duty not driving he did, so we'll assume the minimum pre trips and stuff. So basically, yeah, he'll run up against his 7 day limit. 168 hrs from whatever time he went on duty at the start of his cycle June 1st.

And don't forget after 14 hours he needs to take 10 hours off.

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I never have understood HOS... They charge for what I give away...
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:12 PM
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Is it safe to look at HOS like this then?

14 hour day driving or not,
11 hour day strictly driving
60 hours on duty in 7 days can't drive after that
70 hours on duty in 8 days consecutive,

So in a 7 day cycle, there are 2 banks of hours, one total duty time, one driving time, 98 hours total on duty, 60 hours driving, and after 14 hours on duty you must have 10 hours off duty, no matter what?
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:47 PM
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Is it safe to look at HOS like this then?

14 hour day driving or not,
11 hour day strictly driving
60 hours on duty in 7 days can't drive after that
70 hours on duty in 8 days consecutive,

So in a 7 day cycle, there are 2 banks of hours, one total duty time, one driving time, 98 hours total on duty, 60 hours driving, and after 14 hours on duty you must have 10 hours off duty, no matter what?
There are not many companies that work under the 60/7 log rules. In fact....I do not know any that have since 1986.

You have 70 hours available in an 8 day period. Usually those hours are used up by day 6, unless a driver is shot full of luck....or cheating on the paper log. No driver can cheat the e-Log. Well....not very much anyway.


Have you been to "Driver School"?? Do you have any training in logs at all??
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There are not many companies that work under the 60/7 log rules. In fact....I do not know any that have since 1986.

You have 70 hours available in an 8 day period. Usually those hours are used up by day 6, unless a driver is shot full of luck....or cheating on the paper log. No driver can cheat the e-Log. Well....not very much anyway.


Have you been to "Driver School"?? Do you have any training in logs at all??
What he said!

Btw, this is one time where the gov's website is very clear.

Hours-of-Service Regulations - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

Edit: Actually, rereading the gov's website, the 11-Hour Driving Limit and 14-Hour Limit sections (in the chart at the bottom) are imho extremely clear. The 60/70-Hour On-Duty Limit section not so much, just go by what the Orange man said, he has a habit of being right. My take on the Sleeper Berth Provision is forgetaboutit. You need 10 hours in the sleeper birth and trying to get creative and splitting it into an 8 hour and 2 hour segment accomplishes nothing for all practical purposes anyway. Think 10 hours in the sleeper and you're good to go.

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Old 03-26-2011, 12:29 AM
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There are not many companies that work under the 60/7 log rules. In fact....I do not know any that have since 1986.

You have 70 hours available in an 8 day period. Usually those hours are used up by day 6, unless a driver is shot full of luck....or cheating on the paper log. No driver can cheat the e-Log. Well....not very much anyway.


Have you been to "Driver School"?? Do you have any training in logs at all??
I am assuming that is 70 total hours, driving/not driving etc, right?

And no, haven't been to driver school / or have any training in logs, just doing some research for now....
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Old 03-26-2011, 12:34 AM
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I am assuming that is 70 total hours, driving/not driving etc, right?
yeah line 3 DRIVING and line 4 ON DUTY NOT DRIVING
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