Do you take weight into account when you book a load?
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Originally Posted by charged
Thanks for posting the numbers. I have modified them for 8k miles/mo and to reflect no health insurance and no wages and no food. Just truck expenses.
Fixed Expenses / Mo 8000/mo Equipment per month per mile Tractor/trailer $2000 Licensing/Permits $155.31 Federal Use $45.83 Insurance $700 Liability Insurance $0 Health care $0 Worker Comp $0.00 Retirement $0.00 Ph/fax/internt/ldbds $220.99 Office $20 Tax/legal $10 Software etc $0 Salary $0 TOTAL FIXED $3152.13/mo $0.394/mi Variable Expenses / Mo 6mpg Fuel @ $4.10/gal (/Taxes/Fees?) $5466.67 D/H Fuel (10%) $0.00 $0.000 Reefer service?? $0.000 Reefer fuel?? $0.00 Taxes (road, use, fuel, fed) $26 Food $0 Truck Wash $100 Servicing (P/M) $250 Lrg Repairs(escrow) $300 Tires(escrow) $122.00 New truck(escrow) $0.00 $0.000 Total Variable $ ROI (12% on $107K) $0.00 $0.00 TOTAL COSTS $6564.67/mo $0.821/mi Added up $0.821/mi + $0.394/mi = $1.22/mi That is seven cents cheaper than what I had previously...
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by charged
Thanks for posting the numbers. I have modified them for 8k miles/mo and to reflect no health insurance and no wages and no food. Just truck expenses.
I don't think it is "working for free." I think it's working free or maybe working free of charge.
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So Rev...does that mean you cant haul for less than 1.90 per mile?? Or is that what you need to make a profit?
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by charged
Thanks for posting the numbers. I have modified them for 8k miles/mo and to reflect no health insurance and no wages and no food. Just truck expenses.
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Removing the wages gets us down to the what an owner operator must make to break even.
What you are describing is called "buying a job". It is done by poor businesspeople and hobby truckers who are bored. Which are you? If I haven't met my salary for the month, I most certainly did not "break even". I ran at a loss. If you hired a driver to drive your truck, and couldn't meet his wages, then you didn't "break even". You ran at a loss. The fact that you are the one in the truck plays no bearing on that. Apparently, this is too confusing for you to wrap your brain around, because it is the very thing that everyone has been saying to you ad nauseum.
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Now with the $1.22/mi break even figure I can figure how much one needs to make per mile to make $10k/mo or $9k/mo
I can figure out very quickly what I need to earn to make $10K a month. Just change the figure in the calculation from $6K a month to $10K a month. Wow. That was friggin hard. No "pulling out the salary to figure out what I need to 'break even'" required.
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by charged
Removing the wages gets us down to the what an owner operator must make to break even.
What you are describing is called "buying a job". It is done by poor businesspeople and hobby truckers who are bored. Which are you? If I haven't met my salary for the month, I most certainly did not "break even". I ran at a loss. If you hired a driver to drive your truck, and couldn't meet his wages, then you didn't "break even". You ran at a loss. The fact that you are the one in the truck plays no bearing on that. Apparently, this is too confusing for you to wrap your brain around, because it is the very thing that everyone has been saying to you ad nauseum.
Originally Posted by charged
Now with the $1.22/mi break even figure I can figure how much one needs to make per mile to make $10k/mo or $9k/mo
I can figure out very quickly what I need to earn to make $10K a month. Just change the figure in the calculation from $6K a month to $10K a month. Wow. That was friggin hard. No "pulling out the salary to figure out what I need to 'break even'" required. If you hire a driver and didn't make enough to cover his wages you ran at a loss. If you know your base and what you want to make add them together and that is the minimum you charge to haul freight. IMO, the calculations are easier. You can see at a glance how much you make per mile.
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If you made money, but didn't make as much as you wanted, but covered your costs you didn't run at a loss.
IMO, the calculations are easier. You can see at a glance how much you make per mile.
$6000 / 9000 miles = $0.67 per mile. Now tell me what I am supposed to do with that information. Of what use is that number?
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by charged
If you made money, but didn't make as much as you wanted, but covered your costs you didn't run at a loss.
IMO, the calculations are easier. You can see at a glance how much you make per mile.
$6000 / 9000 miles = $0.67 per mile. Now tell me what I am supposed to do with that information. Of what use is that number? Division and subtraction are more difficult for me than addition and multiplication. If 8000 miles are ran each month for every $0.10 increase in the rate you get $800. You know what you have to make per mile to cover all your costs and you know how much you make for anything over the base.
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You know what you have to make per mile to cover all your costs and you know how much you make for anything over the base.
Stop thinking of it like an employee, and start thinking of it like a business. JEEZ. :roll:
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My dad and I are just hobby truckers then. He doesn't like mountains and will accept lower paying jobs to get home each weekend.
@ $1.22 for the base cost you just made him $0.07 over what I had figured. You're making people all kinds of money today. |

