[Fredog]

Originally Posted by ICS

EXPENSES

FIXED
Truck payment
Truck Depreciation
License, Permits, FHUT
Truck Insurance
Health Ins
Legal and Accounting costs

VARIABLE
fuel
fuel tax
repairs
outside labor
Phone / Communication
Motel
Office
Company Charges
Supplies
Miscellaneous

PERSONAL EXPENSES
Family Support
Mortgage
Auto
Food on the road
Entertainment
Hotels
Car rental


= TOO DARN MUCH!!!

Thats what I came up with... just fill in the blanks

[2]

Originally Posted by SteveBooth

Sorry there #2 but what your asking is for someone to write a freaking book in response to your request.

All your questions have been answered already in this forum by doing some searching. They may not be the right answers but will give you the knowledge to formulate your own conclusions.

Thanks, Steve, but I think I have a better idea than most. At least the ones running under a carrier's authroity.

The thread was a reflection of all the doom and gloom threads about rates, volumes, ect., that are on the board, right now.

A lot of folks plan their effort at around 2,500 miles a week, 6 mpg. Current conditions point out the fallacy of trying to plan so close.

I'm led to believe that the head count of O/O's, shrinks every year.
There is a lot more than retirement, that is causing the shrinkage.

[rank]

Originally Posted by 2

Thanks, Steve, but I think I have a better idea than most. At least the ones running under a carrier's authroity.

The thread was a reflection of all the doom and gloom threads about rates, volumes, ect., that are on the board, right now.

A lot of folks plan their effort at around 2,500 miles a week, 6 mpg. Current conditions point out the fallacy of trying to plan so close.

I'm led to believe that the head count of O/O's, shrinks every year.
There is a lot more than retirement, that is causing shrinkage.

Currently $1.88/mile. Plus WSIB, employee benefits and DH miles.....and don't say shrinkage.

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by 2

A lot of folks plan their effort at around 2,500 miles a week, 6 mpg. Current conditions point out the fallacy of trying to plan so close.

Some of us were stressing the importance of calculating your costs by the day rather than by the mile years ago. :wink:

[BigDiesel]

A Bajillion dollars !!!!!

[rank]

Actually I lied above. $1.88 is for trucks, trailers and drivers. So I guess my answer to your question is ~.70/mile + trailer, driver, WSIB & Dh miles.

[Orangetxguy]

Originally Posted by 2

Thanks, Steve, but I think I have a better idea than most. At least the ones running under a carrier's authroity.

The thread was a reflection of all the doom and gloom threads about rates, volumes, ect., that are on the board, right now.

A lot of folks plan their effort at around 2,500 miles a week, 6 mpg. Current conditions point out the fallacy of trying to plan so close.

I'm led to believe that the head count of O/O's, shrinks every year.
There is a lot more than retirement, that is causing the shrinkage.

2...What is your definition of an Owner Operator? I have noticed that lot's of people whom are registered and operate under their own USDOT/MC number call themselves Owner-Operators.

Take Steve Booth, Big Diesel and Rank for example. Steve and Big Diesel are American, operating under their own USDOT authority, with their own UCR registrations, permits, insurances, and MC150 agents, etc. Rank is Canadian, working basicly the same way Steve and Big D do, under his own authorities, insurance and plate registration. They are, legally "Motor Carriers" not "Owner-Operators".

Now...Rev, Mike3 and I are Owner-Operators. Rev is now leased into Landstar, operating under Landstars authorities, insurances and permits.
Mike3 is leased into Dana-Suttles, operating under their authorities, permits, insurances, etc. I am leased into Miller Transporters, and again, operating under their authorities, permits, insurances, etc.

Rev, has the flexability to choose what he does, where he goes, and how much he does. Mike3 and I also have some flexability, but nothing like Rev has. Mike3 has dispatchers he must deal with on each load he pulls, as do I. Mike3 may be able to contact his shippers and receivers once assigned a load, I do not. Mike and I each have the ability to reject loads..but that can only be pushed so far...at least in my case.

So..there we are. Three "Motor Carriers" and three "Owner-Operators". Yet..Steve, Big D& Rank, consider themselves O/O's, just like Mike, Rev & I.

[BOOM]

So what type of frieght do each of them haul?

Originally Posted by BOOM

So what type of frieght do each of them haul?

I haul anything that will fit on a flatbed except onions and oversize.

[RostyC]

I haul anything that will fit on a flatbed except onions and oversize.

Yeah, Steve puts the onions IN the cab with him. :lol: :lol: