G-man Mack still do make there own truck motors. They always did they never got out of it. The new MP motors i think are like 1/2 a mack and 1/2 volvo in one. :evil: I hear what you are say about the parts and service thing. For you OTR guys that would be something to think about.

 

If I only drove local I would be more inclined to go with an engine that was made by one of the truck manufacturers. I didn't think Mack was still making engines. I thought they stopped due to the expense of meeting the new EPA regs.

 

http://www.macktrucks.com/default.aspx?pageid=1359

here some videos you can look at on MACK
http://www.macktrucks.com/default.aspx?pageid=2128

IS mack big out on the west cost. Im from PA macks home state so they are everywhere around here.

 

I don't recall seeing so many Macks as other brands. I see a lot of Peterbilt's, Kenworth's, Volvo's, Freightliner's and International's. I seem to notice more Pete's, KW and Freightliners on the left coast. Many long haul drivers seem to prefer the hoods. Mack has mostly been known as a vocational truck rather than otr. When I was small I used to notice a lot of Macks. I always loved to see that bulldog. :lol:

 

As far as the high costs of dealership repairs, I've only had a couple of small repairs, but the Freightliner and Cummins dealers have been in the $78 range.

I couldn't get my truck started in Liberal Kansas, and I called a road service guy (recommended by everybody), and he wanted $75 for service call and one hour minimum, for $165, to jump the truck? :evil:

I called the Freightliner dealer, and they came out and jumped the truck, and looked over my engine, and then I took it to the shop to have it scanned because I had a yellow check engine light flashing. It turned out to be a fuel pump code, and it had started coming on when I would coast down big hills and get above 75 mph. It would go off when I got on the gas. Anyway, it cost me $95 for the jump, scan, and some good advice.

I still haven't found an independent mechanic that will touch my Cummins ISX 450, and I don't need someone learning on my engine. It would appear to me that it could come out cheaper with a higher labor rate and less hours if the shop was more competent. I know it works that way in the automotive business (hence specialty shops).

jonboy

 

these different engines are not much different than the... i'm a chevy man, or i'm a ford man. e.t.c. look at a ole 350 chevy motor & you can actually see it. open a hood on a ford & it's hard to see the motor or get to much of its components. i have had great luck & tremedous fuel mileage with my detroit. so i'll swear by it. same as i did by my gmc,s for years.

 

HAHAHA you're joking right? Have fun grabbing that distributor!

Also, have you seen under the hood of any camaro/firebird made since 93 with a v8?

I think it takes something like 8 hours to change plug wires!

 

look at a ole 350 chevy motor & you can actually see it. open a hood on a ford & it's hard to see the motor or get to much of its components

was refering to the 70's type cars. i have a 73 gmc pickup & a 95 ford areo star. to change spark plugs on the ford.. had to take off doghouse, take off both front tires & go under hood & lay on ground & reach up thru manifold & got knows what else. also my 87 chevy was easy to get to also.

 

Sorry to get off topic, BUT....

Did anyone see a survey/finding about 'dollar-for-dollar' value of all the cars in the world?

This was many moons ago (about 20 years?).

....any way Chevy came out 'the-worst-car-in-the-world' and Volvo 'the best.'

Anyone know the present ratings?

God Bless all!

 

Chevy came out 'the-worst-car-in-the-world' and Volvo 'the best.'

nooooooooo way!!! VOLVO????? come on.