Fuel prices....how are you making it??

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Old 11-10-2007, 04:52 AM
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Yeah there's absolutely tons of oil left.

The problem is we have to discover it. There's still lots of oil left to be discovered.

The other problem is the discovery rate VS. consumption rate.

For every 100 bbls of oil we use, we're discovering 1.
 
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:59 AM
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In any event, I agree with Gman, let's annex Mexico, then we can all run back and forth and some of the Mexicans here will go back home to collect their benefits!

Pres. Bush has already signed an agreement(I forget what the bill was titled - I'll look it up) - and very few know about this, except Glenn Beck(ahem), and of course the fox news crew, but this bill is already signed that will annex Canada, the U.S. and Mexico into one entity. The reasoning behind this, was to ensure "North American continental security" - and that is exactly how it was written. Why do you think Bush is fighting this Mexican truck pilot program so hard?? It has to happen in order for this bill to be valid - and as far as the administration is concerned - its gonna happen. No Bush is not a bad guy, but let's face it, our economy is not a good as the press is putting out - so this is more about combining economic resources, than anything else - of course if we stop trying to support every country on earth, we wouldnt be 7 Trillion in national debt!!
 
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:28 AM
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The fuel surge thing works like this fuel is 3.50 per gal, your FSC is say .45, you take the MPG your truck gets and times it by your fuel surge for instance ....truck gets 6.0 MPG

.45 X 6 = 2.70 take that number and subtract from 3.50 or whatever you are paying for fuel. 3.50-2.70=.80 you are paying .80 for fuel at 3.50 per gal.

When we were leased to arrow our tuck got 7MPG and there were times we MADE money with the fuel surge.


Tootie, I have been driving for 12 years and am thinking about buying my first truck in January. I have listended to Kevin Rutherfords show for weeks now and have gained a lot of important tips for being profitable. The above equation that you listed sounds good and looks even better on paper, but how does it work in reality? You pay $3.34 at the pump, which means I would pay roughly $1.30 for feul - but I am still paying full price at the pump minus feul surcharge(roughly .34), which to me, I am still paying $3.00 per gal - which hits the pocket book pretty hard - so what am I missing here? thank you.
 
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:41 AM
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What kind of operation is it? How fast will you run?

What truck brands do you like?

What engine brands do you like?

I can help you out speccing a brand new truck, or I can point you in the right direction for a used truck.

If you keep your speeds between 60-65, I can spec you a truck that could get 7.5 in most operations.
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I will be hauling refrigerated. I dont want to have to run any faster than 65, preferrably 60 - 62(about 1400 rpms). The truck i am looking at, is a 2005 KW W900L, with a Cummins Engine, 9 spd tranny, 3.55 rears, etc.
My dad had a W900L and took good care of it an ran it for well over 1 million miles - had to replace parts here and there, but the thing looked fairly new when he got rid of it.
 
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:05 AM
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There's no plan for a North American union.

What you're talking about is the SPP and the WHTI.

Mostly for making the rules for trade similar on both sides of the border.
 
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:51 AM
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There's no plan for a North American union.

What you're talking about is the SPP and the WHTI.

Mostly for making the rules for trade similar on both sides of the border.

For all of our sakes, I hope there is no plans for one union - however the document I read, stated otherwise, and as shady as the American politicians are, I won't be surprised when the sell all of us down the toilet - and I am not being pessimistic - from the crap I saw going on when I was in Iraq(that you will never see on CNN), to how Bush is fighting extremelly hard for the Mexican truck program, when all of his constituents are fighting as equally hard against him - hey, dont be surprised - may not happen tomorrow - but the sky is the limit.
 
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pete379x
I will be hauling refrigerated. I dont want to have to run any faster than 65, preferrably 60 - 62(about 1400 rpms). The truck i am looking at, is a 2005 KW W900L, with a Cummins Engine, 9 spd tranny, 3.55 rears, etc.
My dad had a W900L and took good care of it an ran it for well over 1 million miles - had to replace parts here and there, but the thing looked fairly new when he got rid of it.
OK you want a newer truck I assume? Within 2-3 years?

In todays climate, I'd advise against a "wind catcher" truck. But wanting to run 60-62 mph is a definite PLUS.

Try to find a truck with a direct drive transmission, and 2.64 gears. It's actually geared the same as that truck with 3.55 gears, because the gears in the tranny are different. Kevin talks about this a lot.

Just a FYI, most parts "under" the truck are the same things. It's the cab that makes the truck.

If you really want a 2005 truck or so, try to find an aero truck with that cummins engine(say 450-500 hp), 2.64 gears with direct drive tranny, 22.5 Low Profile tires. Try to get a shorter wheelbase so you can suck up that trailer to the back of the truck.
 
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by pete379x
The fuel surge thing works like this fuel is 3.50 per gal, your FSC is say .45, you take the MPG your truck gets and times it by your fuel surge for instance ....truck gets 6.0 MPG

.45 X 6 = 2.70 take that number and subtract from 3.50 or whatever you are paying for fuel. 3.50-2.70=.80 you are paying .80 for fuel at 3.50 per gal.

When we were leased to arrow our tuck got 7MPG and there were times we MADE money with the fuel surge.


Tootie, I have been driving for 12 years and am thinking about buying my first truck in January. I have listended to Kevin Rutherfords show for weeks now and have gained a lot of important tips for being profitable. The above equation that you listed sounds good and looks even better on paper, but how does it work in reality? You pay $3.34 at the pump, which means I would pay roughly $1.30 for feul - but I am still paying full price at the pump minus feul surcharge(roughly .34), which to me, I am still paying $3.00 per gal - which hits the pocket book pretty hard - so what am I missing here? thank you.
You would be paid .34 for EVERY mile you drive not just taking .34 off each gallon of fuel you buy. That is why the MPG of your truck is important. If your truck gets 6mpg that is .34 x6 miles driven for each ONE gallon of fuel. Just remember it is for each MILE you drive not the amout of gallons you buy. So if your trip is 1000 miles you will be paid 340.00 for your fuel. That 1000 mile trip would cost you at 6MPG apprx 558.00 in fuel so your cost is only 218.00

understand?? 8)

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Old 11-11-2007, 07:13 PM
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AS IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW THAT. a fed-ex driver showed me his fuel reciept. this will blow your mind!!! they were paying 1.25 at the terminal for fuel!!! $!.25!!!!!! now forget the fact that after you refine the oil to make the gasoline, add a little water to the left overs and you get diesel, how are they getting fuel for less than a third of wht the rest of us are. they must have bought this fuel back in the 70's. WORST CASE SCENARIO...OWNERS SHOULD POOL THEIR MONEY AND SET UP OUR OWN FUEL STOPS AROUND THE COUNTRY. NO COMPANY TRUCKS. BUY IN BULK AND SAVE.
ANYONE INTERESTED? IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN COMPETE! FUEL SURCHARGES ARE NICE, BUT NOT ENOUGH.
 
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman789
AS IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW THAT. a fed-ex driver showed me his fuel reciept. this will blow your mind!!! they were paying 1.25 at the terminal for fuel!!! $!.25!!!!!! now forget the fact that after you refine the oil to make the gasoline, add a little water to the left overs and you get diesel, how are they getting fuel for less than a third of wht the rest of us are. they must have bought this fuel back in the 70's. WORST CASE SCENARIO...OWNERS SHOULD POOL THEIR MONEY AND SET UP OUR OWN FUEL STOPS AROUND THE COUNTRY. NO COMPANY TRUCKS. BUY IN BULK AND SAVE.
ANYONE INTERESTED? IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN COMPETE! FUEL SURCHARGES ARE NICE, BUT NOT ENOUGH.
That's what I think OOIDA or some other similar type of organization should be trying to set up. It could be done somehow.
 

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