Retirement Planning for the Owner Operator
#31
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Originally Posted by no_worries
Sounds like a Dave Ramsay convert :lol: Who's to say it wouldn't be a wise decision? If you can such it up and swing the payments, in a couple of years that piece of real estate just might be worth $800,000. Topics like this are simply much too variable to paint with such a broad brush.
About the only thing you can do is brag to your friends. Do you think they care? Are you going to move out and move into a much smaller house? That's about the only way to capitalize on the appreciation. I've said it before and I'll say it again, your house is a liability. It's not an asset. Assets you can CASH OUT. If you do that, where are you going to live? Of course, this doesn't apply to rental properties. I'd much rather buy a 500k house/duplex for a rental property then for myself.
#32
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Originally Posted by Sonny Pruitt
"If you can't afford a 15 yr mortgage the home should not be bought" Allen5oh
That doesn't mean that you should get a 15 year mortgage, situations can be different. BUT... if you cannot afford that 15 year mortgage, who is to say you can afford a 25 or 30 year mortgage? That was my point. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
#33
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sounds like some back peddling but...
don't be so smug about how great you are doing financially just ask some of the Limo drivers at Newark airport a 15 yr is pretty stiff for a young couple and almost forces the wife to keep working after she has kids ....which sucks you don't want anyone raising your kids but you and your wife no not grandma,or auntie so and so My wife stopped working to raise our 3 sons and is only now back in the workforce You can rush to put equity in your home with a 15 Or if you really want to get a 30 and make extra payments and still have a cushion to pay less if you want to
#34
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Or if you really want to get a 30 and make extra payments
and still have a cushion to pay less if you want to
#35
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The courts don't think Britney is the best choice to raise her kids. I got sole custody in my divorce. My cousin came home to a note that essentially said Bye, don't want to do this anymore and you can keep the kids (3).
Can't agree the husband/wife team is always the best. And I'm sure there's just as many examples of husband's being the "bad" one too. Sounds like you have an admirable game plan for your family Sonny. I remind my daughter that if she doesn't make a plan for her life then somebody else will. And she may not like their plan! Best of luck!
#36
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Originally Posted by Sonny Pruitt
sounds like some back peddling but...[
don't be so smug about how great you are doing financially just ask some of the Limo drivers at Newark airport
a 15 yr is pretty stiff for a young couple and almost forces the wife to keep working after she has kids ....which sucks
you don't want anyone raising your kids but you and your wife no not grandma,or auntie so and so
My wife stopped working to raise our 3 sons
and is only now back in the workforce
You can rush to put equity in your home
with a 15 Or if you really want to get a 30 and make extra payments and still have a cushion to pay less if you want to I'm saying if a 15 yr mortgage vs. a 25 year mortgage "breaks the deal", there's something wrong overall.
#37
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I'm not saying that your idea is a bad one allan. However, you approach the matter as if it's the best way to do things. It's simply not true and would be presumptuous to assume so. What may be great for one person in one particular situation may not be what's best for someone else in a similar circumstance. Like I said, the subject is to complex to paint with such a broad brush as saying if you can't do it on a 15-year then you can't afford to do it.
As far as what to do with the $800,000 house. Someone that can't figure out how to manage a $200,000 windfall won't have to worry about it for very long :lol: At the bare minimum you're now wealthier by $200,000, whether you stay in the house or not. People that truly understand finances understand the difference between income and wealth why wealth is what matters. Those are general statements, not YOU specifically.
#38
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Yes, but when that "wealth" is locked away to the point where if you sold your house and bought another house, you'd break even. How else can you use this wealth? You could use it to borrow money, that's about it.
You feel wealthy, but everything else indicates you aren't. Besides, that wealth can disappear, as we're seeing. A house is not an investment, it's a liability.
#39
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Originally Posted by RostyC
Or if you really want to get a 30 and make extra payments
and still have a cushion to pay less if you want to
#40
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Like I said, a small portion of the populace knows how to make wealth work for them...the rest don't have to worry about it. And you're right, for some, a house is a liability. But once again, it would be inaccurate to claim that is always the case.
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