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Old 06-18-2009, 09:53 PM
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Default Hitting a moose is preventable

After I hit the moose, I found at the Swift in its infinite wisdom deemed it to be a preventable accident.

The reasoning that was presented to me:
A moose is larger than a deer so it moves slower than a deer. So therefore a driver can avoid a collision with a moose.


If any of you have had a meeting with a moose, was it deemed preventable or non-preventable?
Does anybody know where I can find information that will help me fight this?

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Old 06-18-2009, 10:19 PM
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I almost hit a moose once in my car. Came around a corner at 90km/h and a moose was in my lane, I had a second or two and moved into the other lane. When I was about 40 feet away it moved into the left lane I was now in and I had a split second to go back into the right lane. That was done in my Mazda Protege with very sticky tires and suspension modifications. I would have gone into the ditch with a lesser handling car nevermind a truck.

Have those boneheads ever seen a moose move?
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:56 PM
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last i read, hitting animals is non-preventable. they were out on a headhunt and you were in their cross-hairs.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:58 PM
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I assume they got a statement from the moose to find out the other side of the story.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:59 PM
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Can you appeal it? That's just asinine to call it a preventable, sure you hadn't done something else recently to make someone mad and out to get you?
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:39 PM
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What appeal?

I called the safety supervisor in Lancaster (my home terminal), he had to call Phoenix safety to find out what happened.

When he called back, a couple of hours later, he said the preventable stands and that moose are big and can't move very fast.

I told the guy that from the point in time that I first saw the moose until impact I was continuously breaking and that 30 - 50 seconds elapsed. His response - that is sufficient time to come to a complete stop.

That was my appeal.

Vance, where did you see about animal collisions are non-preventable?
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:51 PM
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your first mistake was driving for swift
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moose are big and can't move very fast.

WikiAnswers - How fast can a moose run

A moose can run up to 35 miles per hour, so it's a good idea to stay out of their way!
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:19 AM
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What appeal?

I called the safety supervisor in Lancaster (my home terminal), he had to call Phoenix safety to find out what happened.

When he called back, a couple of hours later, he said the preventable stands and that moose are big and can't move very fast.

I told the guy that from the point in time that I first saw the moose until impact I was continuously breaking and that 30 - 50 seconds elapsed. His response - that is sufficient time to come to a complete stop.

That was my appeal.

Vance, where did you see about animal collisions are non-preventable?
That is the dumbest appeal process I've ever heard, and I highly recommend you dig into the company procedures to confirm that they followed their own procedures. Normally a company's appeal process consists of having a fleet manager appear before a randomly chosen committee on your behalf, and present the case anonymously. The committee then votes on whether they believe the accident could have been prevented. It would surprise me if Swift didn't have a procedure similar to this in place, as not having one could open them up to a lawsuit from a driver who feels an unwarranted black mark has been put on his or her record.
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:23 AM
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What appeal?

I called the safety supervisor in Lancaster (my home terminal), he had to call Phoenix safety to find out what happened.

When he called back, a couple of hours later, he said the preventable stands and that moose are big and can't move very fast.

I told the guy that from the point in time that I first saw the moose until impact I was continuously breaking and that 30 - 50 seconds elapsed. His response - that is sufficient time to come to a complete stop.

That was my appeal.

Vance, where did you see about animal collisions are non-preventable?

on one of their many papers they handed out to the students of their academy in phoenix. things could have, and most likely, changed since then. i'd seek out an lawyer and go from there. swift has taken on so many |2etarded policies in the last 12 months. i hit a f'ing bear along idaho's us95 in the summer of 2007. it was taken down as non-preventable. another one of my friends hit a freaking elk in northern arizona last fall. his truck was totaled. he was never let go, nor was that one deemed preventable. sounds like people at swift are desperately looking for ways to get rid of people, and anything will do.

this move against you could have been because you and your wife were running too many miles and making money. they don't like it when drivers make money. they've run their rates so low that costs more for them to run certain drivers/teams.

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