Careless driving in MN
#11
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chaska, MN
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MN Careless Driving is an "attitude ticket" ... if the cop doesn't like you, he can say that ANY illegal action on the road (speeding, changing lanes without signaling, etc) is "careless driving" ... that's what makes that ticket such BS ...
169.13 Subd. 2. Careless driving. Any person who operates or halts any vehicle upon any street or highway carelessly or heedlessly in disregard of the rights of others, or in a manner that endangers or is likely to endanger any property or any person, including the driver or passengers of the vehicle, is guilty of a misdemeanor.
--Dave.
#12
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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I went up to St. Paul in late march to work for Johnson bros liquour during a teamsters strike. Second week I went out with another strike worker to make deliveries. We started at 7am and had 27 stops. Due to us not knowing the area and the warehouse not loading the truck properly it was going to be a long day. Around 9pm we missed our first stop because the liqour store had closed. I called in to see if we could call it a day . Supervisor said OK.
Coworker and I argued he wanted to go to bars still open and make deliveries. Around 10pm I got in truck locked the doors and said I'm going back to the yard. I back out of an alley and he jumps on passenger side. I drive for about a mile he jumps off and pops hood. I drive off come back police there and arrest me for assault. I go to jail spend a night and next day judge releases me and as I leave jail receive summons for carless driving.
#13
Originally Posted by treehouse
I went up to St. Paul in late march to work for Johnson bros liquour during a teamsters strike. Second week I went out with another strike worker to make deliveries. We started at 7am and had 27 stops. Due to us not knowing the area and the warehouse not loading the truck properly it was going to be a long day. Around 9pm we missed our first stop because the liqour store had closed. I called in to see if we could call it a day . Supervisor said OK.
Coworker and I argued he wanted to go to bars still open and make deliveries. Around 10pm I got in truck locked the doors and said I'm going back to the yard. I back out of an alley and he jumps on passenger side. I drive for about a mile he jumps off and pops hood. I drive off come back police there and arrest me for assault. I go to jail spend a night and next day judge releases me and as I leave jail receive summons for carless driving.
#14
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Location: Central Florida
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Originally Posted by treehouse
I went up to St. Paul in late march to work for Johnson bros liquour during a teamsters strike. Second week I went out with another strike worker to make deliveries. We started at 7am and had 27 stops. Due to us not knowing the area and the warehouse not loading the truck properly it was going to be a long day. Around 9pm we missed our first stop because the liqour store had closed. I called in to see if we could call it a day . Supervisor said OK.
Coworker and I argued he wanted to go to bars still open and make deliveries. Around 10pm I got in truck locked the doors and said I'm going back to the yard. I back out of an alley and he jumps on passenger side. I drive for about a mile he jumps off and pops hood. I drive off come back police there and arrest me for assault. I go to jail spend a night and next day judge releases me and as I leave jail receive summons for carless driving.
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#15
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chaska, MN
Posts: 75
Wait ... you tried to ditch your associate on the job by holding up in the truck and attempting to drive away - he meanwhile didn't want to get left in the middle of nowhere so he heald onto the truck, and you continued to drive anyway ... and all you got was a careless driving ticket?
You should be thankful he didn't fall off the truck and get run over, or worse killed - you should probably suck it up and accept the ticket - and hope you can find a job with that on your record, at this point, once the facts of the case are introduced, I don't think a lawyer can help you out too much. --Dave.
#17
Originally Posted by treehouse
I went up to St. Paul in late march to work for Johnson bros liquour during a teamsters strike. Second week I went out with another strike worker to make deliveries. We started at 7am and had 27 stops. Due to us not knowing the area and the warehouse not loading the truck properly it was going to be a long day. Around 9pm we missed our first stop because the liqour store had closed. I called in to see if we could call it a day . Supervisor said OK.
Coworker and I argued he wanted to go to bars still open and make deliveries. Around 10pm I got in truck locked the doors and said I'm going back to the yard. I back out of an alley and he jumps on passenger side. I drive for about a mile he jumps off and pops hood. I drive off come back police there and arrest me for assault. I go to jail spend a night and next day judge releases me and as I leave jail receive summons for carless driving.
#18
Originally Posted by TomB985
As easy as it is for everyone to crucify the OP here...
How many of us would not be EXTREMELY hostile after a 15 hour work day, and a coworker not letting you go home? But how many of us are going to actually drive off with the poor guy hanging on the side of a tractor trailer?!?!? Well, maybe you better not answer that. Usually I can sympathiza with these guys on here and their sob stories, but not this time. He's lucky thats all he got. If I was the judge, I'd cut his cdl into pieces and be sure he could never get one again. I wonder what he'd do if someone REALLY made him mad...
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