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If im in my cab and someone approaches me day or night who knows anymore what they want.The world i full of sickos.Id rather have a gun and not need it then need it and NOT have it.To each their own.Its a constitutional right to have one.
 
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Originally Posted by jrhbull
If im in my cab and someone approaches me day or night who knows anymore what they want.The world i full of sickos.Id rather have a gun and not need it then need it and NOT have it.To each their own.Its a constitutional right to have one.
In certain cases..but not all. You have a right to free speech also, and it does not mean that you can yell "fire" in a crowded theater...

I guess I just pity people who feel the need to be armed 24/7.
 
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
Originally Posted by jrhbull
If im in my cab and someone approaches me day or night who knows anymore what they want.The world i full of sickos.Id rather have a gun and not need it then need it and NOT have it.To each their own.Its a constitutional right to have one.
In certain cases..but not all. You have a right to free speech also, and it does not mean that you can yell "fire" in a crowded theater...

I guess I just pity people who feel the need to be armed 24/7.
It is not a matter of need or want. The main difference between the views of gun owner and a non gun owner are simple. the main being knowledge. I am a gun owner and agree with the constitution that it is a god given right. The 2nd amendment states to protect the right to bare arms. it doesn't state "to grant the right" this means that the right for man to have guns was established well before our country was even formed. (this has recently been backed up in a court of law) I will carry a wrench on my truck in case my brakes need adjusting. I will carry an air gage just in case to check my tire pressure and I would carry a gun just in case i would need it. To many gun owners it is nothing more than a tool with a specific purpose. it isn't some magical contraption that spits out death randomly. There are very few instances when a crime was committed by a person who legally owns a handgun. The laws are in place to limit such things from happening. Just recently every retired or active police officer was given permission to carry concealed by federal law. I be leave at some point that same permission will be given to this country's citizens. as it should.
 
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If im in my cab and someone approaches me day or night who knows anymore what they want.The world i full of sickos.Id rather have a gun and not need it then need it and NOT have it.To each their own.Its a constitutional right to have one.
In certain cases..but not all. You have a right to free speech also, and it does not mean that you can yell "fire" in a crowded theater...

I guess I just pity people who feel the need to be armed 24/7.
It is not a matter of need or want. The main difference between the views of gun owner and a non gun owner are simple. the main being knowledge. I am a gun owner and agree with the constitution that it is a god given right. The 2nd amendment states to protect the right to bare arms. it doesn't state "to grant the right" this means that the right for man to have guns was established well before our country was even formed. (this has recently been backed up in a court of law) I will carry a wrench on my truck in case my brakes need adjusting. I will carry an air gage just in case to check my tire pressure and I would carry a gun just in case i would need it. To many gun owners it is nothing more than a tool with a specific purpose. it isn't some magical contraption that spits out death randomly. There are very few instances when a crime was committed by a person who legally owns a handgun. The laws are in place to limit such things from happening. Just recently every retired or active police officer was given permission to carry concealed by federal law. I be leave at some point that same permission will be given to this country's citizens. as it should.
All of this does not change anything that I said. I still pity those who feel so threatened that they can only feel safe while holding a gun. I also find it ironic that its always people who have these insecurities who assume that others who do not want every tom dick and harry on the street armed (especially in the trucking industry with their ever plummeting standards) are not proficient or knowledgeable of weapons. There are hardly any ways to prevent an assault unless you have your little popgun in your hand at all times and point it at everyone who you even remotely feel is a "threat". Try again though..
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jrhbull
If im in my cab and someone approaches me day or night who knows anymore what they want.The world i full of sickos.Id rather have a gun and not need it then need it and NOT have it.To each their own.Its a constitutional right to have one.
In certain cases..but not all. You have a right to free speech also, and it does not mean that you can yell "fire" in a crowded theater...

I guess I just pity people who feel the need to be armed 24/7.
It is not a matter of need or want. The main difference between the views of gun owner and a non gun owner are simple. the main being knowledge. I am a gun owner and agree with the constitution that it is a god given right. The 2nd amendment states to protect the right to bare arms. it doesn't state "to grant the right" this means that the right for man to have guns was established well before our country was even formed. (this has recently been backed up in a court of law) I will carry a wrench on my truck in case my brakes need adjusting. I will carry an air gage just in case to check my tire pressure and I would carry a gun just in case i would need it. To many gun owners it is nothing more than a tool with a specific purpose. it isn't some magical contraption that spits out death randomly. There are very few instances when a crime was committed by a person who legally owns a handgun. The laws are in place to limit such things from happening. Just recently every retired or active police officer was given permission to carry concealed by federal law. I be leave at some point that same permission will be given to this country's citizens. as it should.
All of this does not change anything that I said. I still pity those who feel so threatened that they can only feel safe while holding a gun. I also find it ironic that its always people who have these insecurities who assume that others who do not want every tom dick and harry on the street armed (especially in the trucking industry with their ever plummeting standards) are not proficient or knowledgeable of weapons. There are hardly any ways to prevent an assault unless you have your little popgun in your hand at all times and point it at everyone who you even remotely feel is a "threat". Try again though..
Well, using that logic, genius...we can now disarm our law enforcement agencies
 
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Originally Posted by ICS
It is not a matter of need or want. The main difference between the views of gun owner and a non gun owner are simple. the main being knowledge. I am a gun owner and agree with the constitution that it is a god given right. The 2nd amendment states to protect the right to bare arms. it doesn't state "to grant the right" this means that the right for man to have guns was established well before our country was even formed. (this has recently been backed up in a court of law) I will carry a wrench on my truck in case my brakes need adjusting. I will carry an air gage just in case to check my tire pressure and I would carry a gun just in case i would need it. To many gun owners it is nothing more than a tool with a specific purpose. it isn't some magical contraption that spits out death randomly. There are very few instances when a crime was committed by a person who legally owns a handgun. The laws are in place to limit such things from happening. Just recently every retired or active police officer was given permission to carry concealed by federal law. I be leave at some point that same permission will be given to this country's citizens. as it should.
Having a pretty good knowledge on the Bible I can't recall a single verse where anything is spoken about God giving a right to bear arms.

Secondly, There has been only one Supreme Court ruling (United States v. Miller) on the Second Amendment. They sustained a statute requiring registration under the National Firearms Act of sawed-off shotguns.

While I support the 2nd Amendment I also see a valid reason for there to be restriction being placed on those right. As a example I fully support the right of an business owner to post a sign that says NO GUNS allowed. I also support the government's right to restrict the types of firearms a owner owns.

I also think your statement "I be leave at some point that same permission will be given to this country's citizens. as it should." Will never come to be.

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Originally Posted by Fozzy
All of this does not change anything that I said. I still pity those who feel so threatened that they can only feel safe while holding a gun.
I for one do not feel so threatened. I do feel that I want the chance to defend myself should the need arise. I have seen every day Joe's killed and violently assaulted in "good" neighborhoods while working in EMS. I have also seen citizens defend themselves against those who terrorize.


I also find it ironic that its always people who have these insecurities who assume that others who do not want every tom dick and harry on the street armed (especially in the trucking industry with their ever plummeting standards) are not proficient or knowledgeable of weapons.
I for one believe everyone should arm themselves. I also believe that you should become a master at handling and using a firearm. Myself, I have over 100 hours of firearms training and regularly practice combat shooting. You as a citizen should take a responsible role in your own well being. The police can't be relied upon to protect you. They are there to investigate crimes and respond to them. But the chance a police officer will intervene is slim to none.


There are hardly any ways to prevent an assault unless you have your little popgun in your hand at all times and point it at everyone who you even remotely feel is a "threat". Try again though.
A defeatist attitude. I am constantly aware of my surroundings. I am not going to sit there and be a victim. I can draw my "pop gun" and have it on target in 1-2 seconds. Does that mean I am going to go around pulling my gun all the time? No.

As I said before I've carried a handgun for 8 years and have never had to draw my gun. I hope I never have to. But, one never knows what will happen on any given day. I'm sure the 5 shoppers in the mall in Salt Lake City, the 8 shoppers in Omaha, the 5 women in the Lane Bryant store in Chicago, the 32 students at Virgina Tech and so far 4 at Northern Illinois University thought they would die that day.

A case where having a gun does work was demonstrated in Colorado. A female church volunteer took down the shooter as he walked into the church after killing 4 people. Had she not been there who knows how many more would have been killed.[/quote]
 
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Most gun nuts who babble about their rights to defend themselves are more likely to be the shooter in these events than one of the victims.. They feel threatened all the time. I've handled PLENTY of weapons, military and civilians and have never seen the need to carry in normal life,,

I have seen hundreds of situations where I'm glad that there are not MORE gun nuts loose on society. Most of these nuts are gun hoarders who also love to spout off about their prowess at the craft.. I'm still not impressed and still not convinced.

Again, unless you are ready and poised to pull your security blanket (gun) and the slightest provocation.. your kidding yourself if you think you will be safe from violent crime.
 
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
Most gun nuts who babble about their rights to defend themselves are more likely to be the shooter in these events than one of the victims.. They feel threatened all the time. I've handled PLENTY of weapons, military and civilians and have never seen the need to carry in normal life,,

I have seen hundreds of situations where I'm glad that there are not MORE gun nuts loose on society. Most of these nuts are gun hoarders who also love to spout off about their prowess at the craft.. I'm still not impressed and still not convinced.

Again, unless you are ready and poised to pull your security blanket (gun) and the slightest provocation.. your kidding yourself if you think you will be safe from violent crime.
Nice open mind you have. I expected nothing less. You're right, I'm a gun nut on the verge of the next mass shooting. :roll: Discussion over.
 
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Nice open mind you have. I expected nothing less. You're right, I'm a gun nut on the verge of the next mass shooting. :roll: Discussion over.
*snicker*... why did I expect a person who actively seeks schemes and dreams of confrontation with firearms to "save people" to do something like have a simple discussion? keep dreaming Rambo. :roll:
 

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