User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-04-2008, 04:43 PM
Pete08's Avatar
Rookie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Deforest, WI
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default Log Book Question

If you are hauling raw vegetables out of the field and you are working for somebody do you have to run a log book? I only ask this question because a friend of mine did this for a summer and he never had to run a log book.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-04-2008, 05:10 PM
Voyager's Avatar
Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tamaqua PA
Posts: 58
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default Re: Log Book Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete08
If you are hauling raw vegetables out of the field and you are working for somebody do you have to run a log book? I only ask this question because a friend of mine did this for a summer and he never had to run a log book.
It depends. Was he hauling only on private property? If he was then I'd say "probably" not. Was he hauling locally less than 100 air miles to destination? If so, then he would have had to run an exemption log book stating his start and end times, or a record of on duty time kept at his employers domicile. Did he work more that 12 hours per day while on public roadways? Then the answer is yes. There are many variables when it comes to running a log book or not, but the bottom line is that the hours need to be accounted for somehow. More info is needed though to give you a valid answer.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-04-2008, 05:10 PM
flood's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: tennesse
Posts: 738
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

check this http://tinyurl.com/25trjp
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-04-2008, 05:11 PM
Flashmann's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 111
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

The way I've been told is:If you stay within a 150 mile radius of whatever passes for your "home terminal",no log is required,regardless of cargo...However,you still must adhere to the 14/11 hour HOS rules....
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-04-2008, 08:22 PM
Uturn2001's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: East Central IL between the corn and the beans
Posts: 4,977
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashmann
The way I've been told is:If you stay within a 150 mile radius of whatever passes for your "home terminal",no log is required,regardless of cargo...However,you still must adhere to the 14/11 hour HOS rules....
You have been told wrong.

CDL vehicle 100 air mile radius. Some states, like IL do allow 150 miles, but you can not cross state lines. If you do you are limited to the 100 mile federal rule or must use a log book.

Non CDL vehicle 150 air mile radius.

As far as the hours allowed to drive, this again depends on if the vehicle is CDL or non CDL.

Read section E for the complete regs.
__________________
Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-04-2008, 08:46 PM
carlos64030's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 160
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

I work for SWIFT. I don't know if this is just a company policy or not, but I was told that we still have to log our local runs that are under 100 miles.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-04-2008, 11:13 PM
Uturn2001's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: East Central IL between the corn and the beans
Posts: 4,977
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by carlos64030
I work for SWIFT. I don't know if this is just a company policy or not, but I was told that we still have to log our local runs that are under 100 miles.
Since you do not report back to the same terminal every night (I assume you are an OTR driver) you do not qualify for the short haul exemption for no log book.

Also even if you did nothing but short runs out of your home terminal all day it is often just easier to keep the OTR drivers on a log book instead of temporarily switching them to a time sheet/card.
__________________
Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.
Reply With Quote
Reply






Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:16 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.