Unload your own truck at Swift?

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Old 01-02-2008, 02:54 PM
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Maybe Fuzzy likes to be pimped out to the lowest paying John?
 
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Originally Posted by Lunker
Maybe Fuzzy likes to be pimped out to the lowest paying John?

If he's anything like the guys that I hear talking about their superior work ethic ,because they are willing to double as a dock worker for $10.00HR in addition to driving ,which already has tons of free labor involved in it without wearing an extra hat as a dock worker for close to free as well ...then he probably hits the showwers 2x a week at best , and always looks like he should be standing on the corner with a sign . :wink:
 
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
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If it's once in awhile like couple time a year fine ,But you find it happening 1 per week ...Just send this message over the Qualcom...I feel the load is unsafe for me to be unloading I feel I'm at the risk of personal injury ,as the load poses the following slips ,trips, ,falls , strains/sprains ,And falling object dangers , and there is no way to avoid these dangers in the un loading process ,And I don't feel safe doing so ...Then ask the dispatcher if they insist you unload the freight with the possible dangers of physical injury it is unlikely that your FM or night/weekends dispatch is going to tell you to do this over the Qualcom after you stated it was dangerous , as this puts them at liability for forcing you to work in an unsafe situation . ...Always remind them that an injury could put you out of work for months/weeks collecting workmans comp...And that any re-occuring injury to an injury from a workmans comp injury is the responsibilty of the company for the life of that injury ,which could be forever...Remeber comanies are trying to get you to do the work ,because it's cheap labor , and nothing scares a company more than paying you to do NOTHING while on workmans comp . :wink:
And refusing to the job could get you fired. If I ran the company and had a driver continually threaten me with a workmans comp claim, I'd fire them to protect myself and the other employees. Again, why leave your house if you are so afraid of work?


You bet I'm afraid of doing someone elses work for $10.00 HR , But then again you have to smart enough to be afraid :wink: ...
I guess as long as you plan on shooting for making nothing, you can call yourself a success. $10 an hour beats making zero. MOST of the time the unloading pay is well above this magical $10.00 an hour you seem to be fixated on. A driver making the time pay ANYTHING is wiser than the one who just sits on their butts whining about things. All you seem to have plenty of is excuses and a poor attitude. MOST outfits pay at least 60 for a n unload.. even if the whole process takes 3 hours.. its more than $10.00 an hour. I guess wanting to be able to send more money home never crosses the BBR's mind? They may even get some sweat on their sweatpants and even have to wear something other than house shoes for a few hours.
 
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
...A driver making the time pay ANYTHING is wiser than the one who just sits on their butts whining about things.
Well, I wasn't feeling much like getting in the middle of this high-minded debate, but I have to disagree here. We're allowed 70 hours of work in an eight day period. That's 8.75 hours a day. Each of us makes a certain average weekly wage. It will vary from person to person and from week to week, but we all have a pretty good idea of how many hours we work and how much money we make. (Another hint for the new folks - I don't work anywhere close to the 80-100 hours you read about sometimes.) If you know how much you earn for an average hour of work, you know whether or not it's profitable to work for whatever your unload pay will be. Unloading three hours at $10/hr would prevent you from driving three hours at $20+/hr, eight days from now. Bad move.

As I mentioned before, we (CFI) are paid $17.50/hr with a two hour minimum. It's typically not my choice whether or not to unload. I took a load of cell phones (4 pallets) to Fort Worth once and was told that I had to unload them with a pallet jack. Four pallets - five minutes - $35. I showed up in Memphis with a load of Red Bull to a place with no dock, so I had to tailgate the load, again with a pallet jack. 20 pallets - half an hour - $35. Those were well worth my time. Those are also the only two times I've had to touch freight in a year and a half. I have no intention of lumping freight when there are people who are paid to do that.

Regarding the Swift recruiters telling people about a once per week average, I think it's time for another recruiting lesson: Swift has a lot of trucks. I don't know how many, but it's a lot. Several of those trucks run dedicated accounts. Let's say, for the sake of example, that a single dedicated truck makes thirty stops a week. That means that the next 29 OTR trucks can make zero stops a week, but the "average" for the whole 30-truck group in question is one stop per week. See what's going on here? So-called factual information can mislead you pretty bedly if you let it.
 
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
Originally Posted by Fozzy
Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
If it's once in awhile like couple time a year fine ,But you find it happening 1 per week ...Just send this message over the Qualcom...I feel the load is unsafe for me to be unloading I feel I'm at the risk of personal injury ,as the load poses the following slips ,trips, ,falls , strains/sprains ,And falling object dangers , and there is no way to avoid these dangers in the un loading process ,And I don't feel safe doing so ...Then ask the dispatcher if they insist you unload the freight with the possible dangers of physical injury it is unlikely that your FM or night/weekends dispatch is going to tell you to do this over the Qualcom after you stated it was dangerous , as this puts them at liability for forcing you to work in an unsafe situation . ...Always remind them that an injury could put you out of work for months/weeks collecting workmans comp...And that any re-occuring injury to an injury from a workmans comp injury is the responsibilty of the company for the life of that injury ,which could be forever...Remeber comanies are trying to get you to do the work ,because it's cheap labor , and nothing scares a company more than paying you to do NOTHING while on workmans comp . :wink:
And refusing to the job could get you fired. If I ran the company and had a driver continually threaten me with a workmans comp claim, I'd fire them to protect myself and the other employees. Again, why leave your house if you are so afraid of work?


You bet I'm afraid of doing someone elses work for $10.00 HR , But then again you have to smart enough to be afraid :wink: ...
I guess as long as you plan on shooting for making nothing, you can call yourself a success. $10 an hour beats making zero. MOST of the time the unloading pay is well above this magical $10.00 an hour you seem to be fixated on. A driver making the time pay ANYTHING is wiser than the one who just sits on their butts whining about things. All you seem to have plenty of is excuses and a poor attitude. MOST outfits pay at least 60 for a n unload.. even if the whole process takes 3 hours.. its more than $10.00 an hour. I guess wanting to be able to send more money home never crosses the BBR's mind? They may even get some sweat on their sweatpants and even have to wear something other than house shoes for a few hours.

I wear Timberland boots not house shoes , And I don't wear sweat pants... :wink: As for the lumping of loads it all depends on the outfit ,as to weather I'll do it or not ...if the work is profitable to me then I'll do it if it's not then I'm getting a lumper ...However there are going to be a few loads that require driver assistance that are not going to offer lumpers , and I'm not going to have a choice in that case as long as the out fit I'm working for pays me well for the time ,and it's a rare deal then I have no issue with it , But if I'm at the customers dock ,and I'm going to have to burn 2-4 hours there and only average 10.00 Hr for the time spent ...I'm getting an EFS check ang hiring a lumper ...Or if you're there I'll sub contract to you for $5.00 an hr "SENOIR" Fozzy
 
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That's why I drive a flatbed.Don't have to worry about loading or unloading.Might have to tarp,but you get paid for that.Jeepster,just one question.Don't want to start a fight,but how long have you been driving?
 
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Originally Posted by steelhauler2007
That's why I drive a flatbed.Don't have to worry about loading or unloading.Might have to tarp,but you get paid for that.Jeepster,just one question.Don't want to start a fight,but how long have you been driving?

about 2.5 years ...I don't like to call them fights I'd like to think of them as DEBATES agruing varied opinions . :wink:
 
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Well shoot,you should jump on the band wagon and run for president.
 
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Originally Posted by steelhauler2007
Well shoot,you should jump on the band wagon and run for president.
yeah me ,and the guy from Boston .
 
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:11 AM
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HAH thats funny.... i've had 2 driver unload loads and both times i have hired lumpers and been reimburesed for them..... SEE MY DIARY!
 
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