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Old 08-13-2007, 01:03 PM
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I've been late twice since I started this new job. One mechanical problem...
Actually, no. I still made it on time. No, the other time I was late, it was because of a stupid dispatcher trick, and absolutely not my fault.
 
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by greg3564
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there is nothing unethical about it.
Except for the small, somewhat miniscule issue of it being ILLEGAL...

You cannot sign law away with a peice of paper. Sure, if your a good guy and like your company and feel the damage was your fault there is no law saying you can't fork over for the headache you caused - that makes you a decent person. When a company deducts funds for damages to their vehicles with, or without consent they are breaking the law.

Employee damage is the cost of doing business in the US - employees steal, they screw up numbers, and they accidently run over kittens - all of which is considered normal business. As employer the most you can do is terminate their contract, make em quit, or file for restitution - you cannot dock pay.
You're wrong there. You can be charged for damage you cause. Some states have laws that forbid that. But some don't and you are liable.

I don't know where you are getting your information, but an employee can be held responsible for damages he caused to company equipment. And the last time I checked, stealing was illegal and punishable with jail time. It isn't a part of doing business, nor is it acceptable. Neither is running over kittens. Most employment laws tend to be driven or controlled by state law. Not all state laws are compatible. In other words, each state makes their own laws governing employer/employee relationships. There is nothing illegal about an employee and employer making a contract.
 
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Except for the small, somewhat miniscule issue of it being ILLEGAL...

You cannot sign law away with a peice of paper. Sure, if your a good guy and like your company and feel the damage was your fault there is no law saying you can't fork over for the headache you caused - that makes you a decent person. When a company deducts funds for damages to their vehicles with, or without consent they are breaking the law.

Employee damage is the cost of doing business in the US - employees steal, they screw up numbers, and they accidently run over kittens - all of which is considered normal business. As employer the most you can do is terminate their contract, make em quit, or file for restitution - you cannot dock pay.

Most companies hand out a company policy handbook-
Be interested in what yours says if they have one
 
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Originally Posted by GMAN
Originally Posted by greg3564
Originally Posted by Bonkers
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there is nothing unethical about it.
Except for the small, somewhat miniscule issue of it being ILLEGAL...

You cannot sign law away with a peice of paper. Sure, if your a good guy and like your company and feel the damage was your fault there is no law saying you can't fork over for the headache you caused - that makes you a decent person. When a company deducts funds for damages to their vehicles with, or without consent they are breaking the law.

Employee damage is the cost of doing business in the US - employees steal, they screw up numbers, and they accidently run over kittens - all of which is considered normal business. As employer the most you can do is terminate their contract, make em quit, or file for restitution - you cannot dock pay.
You're wrong there. You can be charged for damage you cause. Some states have laws that forbid that. But some don't and you are liable.

I don't know where you are getting your information, but an employee can be held responsible for damages he caused to company equipment. And the last time I checked, stealing was illegal and punishable with jail time. It isn't a part of doing business, nor is it acceptable. Neither is running over kittens. Most employment laws tend to be driven or controlled by state law. Not all state laws are compatible. In other words, each state makes their own laws governing employer/employee relationships. There is nothing illegal about an employee and employer making a contract.
Gman, I'm assuming you're talking to Bonkers, cause I don't run over kittens.
 
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:12 PM
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WHAT???

We can't run over KITTENS anymore??? :shock: :shock:

these new HOS rules are taking ALL the fun out of trucking!!! :shock: :twisted: :lol:
 
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
WHAT???

We can't run over KITTENS anymore??? :shock: :shock:

these new HOS rules are taking ALL the fun out of trucking!!! :shock: :twisted: :lol:
Or deer. dogs, cats, gophers, possums. I swear, the DOT has taken all my fun away. :lol:
 
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Don't forget rabbits. I got three babys at one time while bobtail one night. It took some fancy steering, but I got 'um all. :lol:
 
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Double R
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WHAT???

We can't run over KITTENS anymore??? :shock: :shock:

these new HOS rules are taking ALL the fun out of trucking!!! :shock: :twisted: :lol:
Or deer. dogs, cats, gophers, possums. I swear, the DOT has taken all my fun away. :lol:
CUMMON.....now....!!! POSSUMS???? Every other critter you mentioned WILL "eventually" move out of the way, but POSSUMS????? :roll:

I had one walk up to my front porch a few weeks ago, and when I turned on the porch light, he just froze!!! We talked for about an HOUR, and he never even lifted his head!!

I WILL NOT miss my neighbors uncle's daughter's wedding party (free booze!) because I can't run over a possum who is TOO stupid to move when the lights are on!!! :roll:

HOS and Monty Dial be damned!!! I'm squshing every Possum I see!! :evil:

WHAT does a Parent Against Tired Truckers know about POSSUMS????? :roll: :roll: :shock:
 
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Originally Posted by Double R
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WHAT???

We can't run over KITTENS anymore??? :shock: :shock:

these new HOS rules are taking ALL the fun out of trucking!!! :shock: :twisted: :lol:
Or deer. dogs, cats, gophers, possums. I swear, the DOT has taken all my fun away. :lol:
CUMMON.....now....!!! POSSUMS???? Every other critter you mentioned WILL "eventually" move out of the way, but POSSUMS????? :roll:

I had one walk up to my front porch a few weeks ago, and when I turned on the porch light, he just froze!!! We talked for about an HOUR, and he never even lifted his head!!

I WILL NOT miss my neighbors uncle's daughter's wedding party (free booze!) because I can't run over a possum who is TOO stupid to move when the lights are on!!! :roll:

HOS and Monty Dial be damned!!! I'm squshing every Possum I see!! :evil:

WHAT does a Parent Against Tired Truckers know about POSSUMS????? :roll: :roll: :shock:
Just run the little sucker over anyway. As long as no one sees you do it, no one will ever know :lol:
 
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I had one walk up to my front porch a few weeks ago, and when I turned on the porch light, he just froze!!! We talked for about an HOUR, and he never even lifted his head!!

:shock: Mine always talk back to me. :P
 
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