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Old 07-22-2007, 09:46 PM
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doesnt chewing gum now have alcohol? wtf! :shock:
I've wondered about this too. I chew gum between meals because I'm too sorry to brush my teeth more than once a day, and it helps keep my dentist happy. I can't stand gums with any aspartame at all, and I can only tolerate a minimal amount of sucralose. The only formulation I can tolerate is Trident Cinnamon, and it gets most of its sweetness from Xylitol.

It's not ethanol, but I don't know if it counts as "alcohol" or not. Would it affect a breathalyzer? Could it intoxicate me in some way? Damn, I sure hope not.
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Ok, then ditch the Listerine, and get a non-alcohol mouthwash. Actually I have a bottle of Crest non-alcohol mouthwash here at home. I don't like the alcohol type taste Listerine gives.

I bought it at walmart, and it had non-alcohol plastered all over the front in big letters.
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Ok, then ditch the Listerine, and get a non-alcohol mouthwash. Actually I have a bottle of Crest non-alcohol mouthwash here at home. I don't like the alcohol type taste Listerine gives.

I bought it at walmart, and it had non-alcohol plastered all over the front in big letters.
Just what I need to do...never realized there was even a chance at the consequences listerine could bring. :roll: :shock:
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:14 AM
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Default Bad Laws Need Repealing

I can understand someone who gets tanked, then drives, then gets a DUI for what is an overtly obvious infraction.

However, I can not see anything more ridiculous than what might be termed a "mouthwash drunk!"

A DUI just for having mouthwash alcohol on your breath? This is just asanine!

I think it's time we demanded more accurate standards. Breath-level testing equipment has been around for a long time now and is reasonably accurate. But why not be able to tell the different types of alcohol and pass legislation that will allow for mollification of a person who has recently used mouthwash?

Common Sense needs to be re-inserted into the legislative equation in this and other industries.

Mouthwash use does not equal a person being drunk and should not be allowed to be used for the purpose of DUI ticket issuance, period!

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Old 07-24-2007, 03:30 AM
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A DUI just for having mouthwash alcohol on your breath? This is just asanine!
I agree completely, but it's just one more thing that some LEO on a power trip would love to nail someone for, because all he cares about is the number that comes up on the breathalyzer test. :roll:
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I remember about 16 years ago when I was in drivers education class, we had a city cop come in to give a presentation and he brought the breathalyser machine with him. He had one of the students gargle with mouthwash and blow into the machine. Right after he gargled and blew, he blew something like 15 times over the legal limit. he had him blow again after 1/2 hr and then again after an hour and he still blew like 4 times over the legal limit. Now, for a cop not to discern between somebody whos plastered and someone who just brushed and gargled is plain crazy! But keep in mind to look for that non-alcholic rince next time your at Wally world.
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From: http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/NEW_DOCS/part40.html?proc

Subpart M - Alcohol Confirmation Tests
§ 40.251 What are the first steps in an alcohol confirmation test?
As the BAT for an alcohol confirmation test, you must follow these steps to begin the confirmation test process:
(a) You must carry out a requirement for a waiting period before the confirmation test, by taking the following steps:
(1) You must ensure that the waiting period lasts at least 15 minutes, starting with the completion of the screening test. After the waiting period has elapsed, you should begin the confirmation test as soon as possible, but not more than 30 minutes after the completion of the screening test.
(i) If the confirmation test is taking place at a different location from the screening test (see §40.247(b)(3)) the time of transit between sites counts toward the waiting period if the STT or BAT who conducted the screening test provided the waiting period instructions.
(ii) If you cannot verify, through review of the ATF, that waiting period instructions were provided, then you must carry out the waiting period requirement.
(iii) You or another BAT or STT, or an employer representative, must observe the employee during the waiting period.
(2) Concerning the waiting period, you must tell the employee:
(i) Not to eat, drink, put anything (e.g., cigarette, chewing gum) into his or her mouth, or belch;
(ii) The reason for the waiting period (i.e., to prevent an accumulation of mouth alcohol from leading to an artificially high reading);

Annnnd from: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=108678

Interesting question! I just had a conversation with my brother-in-law
the police officer, who was telling me that Listerine breath strips
do, indeed, cause a false positive if taken just before a test.
(During his training, some officers were asked to put some strips in
their mouth and then take a breath-alcohol test...The results were
positive.)

"Breath sprays, such as Binaca, have a high concentration of alcohol
in them. Binaca can even cause a false breath-alcohol test result of
0.811% BAC, which is nearly double a fatal dose of alcohol poisoning.
Incidentally, Listerine mouthwash can cause a false breath-alcohol
test result of 0.43% BAC, which is near the level of coma. These
effects last as long as 30 minutes to an hour." (The Prohibition
Times, JUNK SCIENCE: GOVERNMENT TESTS FOR DRUNK DRIVING by John Lee ,
http://www.geocities.com/prohibition_us/BacFst.html )

This legal article sites some of those statistics, too:
http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

However, I can find no stats online that *specifically* discuss the
breath strips. Since they are made from an intensified version of
Listerine, it is only natural that they, like the traditional
Listerine, result in a false-positive.
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He had been drinking the night before and used listerine in the morning. I never realized listerine could make you show a high blood alcohol rate.

I'm willing to bet his DUI came from the drinks he had the night before, not the listerine. Sleeping doesnt necessarily get rid of alcohol in your system. Only time does. Your bodyweight is another factor, but figure one drink per hour that your liver can process. He doesnt go into detail about how many drinks he had the night before, but if he got up early, my bet is that he wasnt yet sober.

I've been drunk at work at 11:00am the morning after a midnite booze session. Most folks have done the same but just dont realize it. If I had gotten stopped on the way to work, I would have gotten a DUI. Period.

I think he's making excuses. Shouldnt have been drinking AT ALL before having to drive the next day. :roll:
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:25 PM
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doesnt chewing gum now have alcohol? wtf! :shock:
I've wondered about this too. I chew gum between meals because I'm too sorry to brush my teeth more than once a day, and it helps keep my dentist happy. I can't stand gums with any aspartame at all, and I can only tolerate a minimal amount of sucralose. The only formulation I can tolerate is Trident Cinnamon, and it gets most of its sweetness from Xylitol.

It's not ethanol, but I don't know if it counts as "alcohol" or not. Would it affect a breathalyzer? Could it intoxicate me in some way? Damn, I sure hope not.
Does any1 know if its safe to chew gum?

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Ok, then ditch the Listerine, and get a non-alcohol mouthwash..
and then what? get cavities?

No dice! :x
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