[jrhbull]

Im a little confused with this.If i drive 11 hrs a day i must have 12 hrs off duty?? but if i drive 10 hrs its not

[tdriver1959]

nope

you must take 10 hrs off when you reach 11 hrs driving or 14 hours on duty which ever happens first

[Drew10]

I copied this from my post in the "Poor Pre-Trips Post":

New rules: 11hr drive within 14hr duty day
14hr duty day (stoppable with 8hr line 2)
70hr 8day(stoppable w/any offduty change)(recap or reset)
10hr offduty(any continuous or combination line 1 or 2)
Split break, 2 seperate periods, 8hrs line2, 2hrs line 1 or 2

To reset your On-Duty time: (14hr on duty/11hr driving) you must have a 10hr break, no variations on drive time/on duty or on the break times.

[golfhobo]

Originally Posted by jrhbull

Im a little confused with this.If i drive 11 hrs a day i must have 12 hrs off duty?? but if i drive 10 hrs its not

First off, I have to ask if this is a serious question. There is a lot of "joking" going around on the board right now, so I'm not sure if you're yankin' our chains.

Where would you have heard ANYTHING about a 12 hour break?

If you are serious, I think you are adding the 2 hour break to the 10 hour break, which means you need to start back at square ONE, and let us explain it to you.

I will be more than happy to do so, but I don't like being "played." Without the use of the emoticons, it is sometimes hard to tell if someone is joking or not. Please don't take offense. Just tell me if you zinged one over my head or not.

[Uturn2001]

I assume we are talking USA regs here.

The basic regs are simple.

After a 10 hour break you have 14 hours to drive up to 11 hours. After the 14th hour or upon reaching 11 hours of drive time you may not drive again until you have completed a 10 hour break.

Do yourself a favor. Forget about split sleeper berth options. Not worth the hassle anymore. Just take your 10 hour break all at once and be done with it.

BTW your 10 hour break can be all sleeper, all off duty, or any combo of both.

Finally if you do not do any work at all for at least 34 hours you many reset your 70 hour limit.

[golfhobo]

Originally Posted by tdriver1959

nope

you must take 10 hrs off when you reach 11 hrs driving or 14 hours on duty which ever happens first

See, this is where we have a problem. I KNOW I've discussed this on a thread with you before, tdriver! I'm SURE that YOU understand the rules, and what you are saying makes sense to YOU. But, it doesn't to ME, and I don't think it will to a newbie.

A "literal" translation of what you said would indicate that IF a driver drove 11 hours straight (after the intitial pre-trip for the day,) he "MUST" then immediately shutdown for 10. OR that he would have to do so after 14 hours. NEITHER is true!

I can start at 6 a.m today, and not take my 10 off until 6 a.m tomorrow, if that's how it works out! I just can't DRIVE for more than 11 hours within that time, and NOT after 14 hours from the time I started!

I have 14 hours in which to drive my 11, but I could WORK all night after the 14 if I wanted to - on line 4! I just can't DRIVE again, until I've had 10 hours off duty!

You KNOW that! So, WHY do you imply that one HAS to shutdown for 10 hours IMMEDIATELY after 11 hours of driving OR after the 14 hour "driving duty window?"

I don't think you MEAN that, but that is what you are SAYING!

[Uturn2001]

Fozzy said it quite well in another thread.

The HOS regs only tells you when you can drive. It has nothing to do when you can work.

[jrhbull]

Im serious. I drive a F-650 48 states delivering and installing signs and i have never used log books before.Id like to get the most drive time per day because i usually make astop for a sign once a day.When i fuel or stop and eat is that considered off duty or on duty not driving??And for the hour thing.I never drive more then 9 hrs aday because im not sure how muc longer i got?? Any help appreciated

[married to the road]

You drive a ford f-650, what do you do, stay in hotels? and how long are you gone? Overnite, a couple of days, or more? You log up to 70 hours in any combination of line 3 and 4 (in 8 days), then you cannot drive again until you have a 34 hour break. as far as fuel, I always log 15 min. on line 4-on duty, not driving when getting fuel. No matter if it is not very busy and I can get done fueling in 5 min, or if it is so busy it takes me 15 min waiting in line, then 5 min to pump the fuel, then another 10 min to get the reciept. As far as getting something to eat, I always put that on line 1, off duty. hope this helps.

[Malaki86]

You're not REQUIRED to have a 34hr restart if you run out of hours on your 70hr week. You will only be limited by the number of hours that you can drive, instead of the full 11/14 for the day.

I've only ever taken 2 34hr restarts on the road. One was caused when my truck was in the shop for 2 days and the other was simply because I was sick and needed a break.