sitting here
#11
03-04-2007, 05:40 AM
So now the $64,000 question is how are you logging this? Technically, the book says that the whole time you are waiting on loads and available for work (minus DOT breaks etc), you must be on LINE 4, ON DUTY NOT DRIVING. But how are you REALLY gonna log it? Problably a mixture of Lines 1+2.
Assuming you have that magical statement endorsing that you do not have responsibility for the tractor/trailer during breaks -- If you have completed the load and now you can freely take a break -- it is line 1. If you are in the sleeper it is line 2. I am pretty confident that GolfHobo or somebody else will quote the FMCSA's  [/quote]
#12
03-04-2007, 08:45 AM
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: the Buckeye
Posts: 1,732
Re: sitting here
Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
Originally Posted by rickstephens
well started solo with swift about week and a half ago started out running ran 2400 miles in 7 days not bad i thought then they dh me 700 miles up to gary in said reposition but after a day they had me tcall a load from chicago to columbus oh 300 miles said it had to be there sat 12noon so got here 1130 sat dropped trl after six hrs sitting went in to see bout a load go figure they forgot to take the tcall off me so been wasting six hrs with load still attached to my trk finally got it off my back and now its sun 11.15 been here 24 hrs and yep still no load getting a little tired of hearing freight is slow maybe. so quite putting people threw school but it does not take long to see thats how they make there money when freight is yep slow. o yea forgot no one in the office works weekends they are home where its warm with there family's while we sit out here waiting for a load or yep again for freight to pick up . well guess I'm gone for now and sit for a load ha ha ha
This is exactly why I warn people to stay away from OTR - especially the big McMega carriers like Swift. You should be paid for each and every one of those hours that you're sitting around waiting on loads. And anything after 8/40 hours should be overtime. How many people do you know that would show up over the weekend at their day job for no pay? Nobody I can think of. That's why OTR is such a blatant ripoff.
getting a little tired of hearing freight is slow maybe. so quite putting people threw school but it does not take long to see thats how they make there money when freight is yep slow.
So now the $64,000 question is how are you logging this? Technically, the book says that the whole time you are waiting on loads and available for work (minus DOT breaks etc), you must be on LINE 4, ON DUTY NOT DRIVING. But how are you REALLY gonna log it? Problably a mixture of Lines 1+2. I don't really blame you because you pretty much have to in order to get some kind of decent paycheck at the end of the wek. But by sitting around for free and burying all those unpaid hours in the logbook, drivers allow carriers/shippers/receivers to be inefficient. If you went on the clock as soon as you sent in that empty call in or when you checked into a customer, you can bet your bottom dollar that you wouldn't be sitting for very long. That's why Wallyworld drivers are almost all drop-n-hook. Because they rate delay-pay, no way is Wal-Mart gonna pay those guys to sit around docks, truckstops, rest areas, etc for very long. Same deal with the LTL carriers. I for one agree with you. But dont forget this is mostly an OTR website. Not only that, but the majority of posters are from people with little to no experience. Fact is OTR is the fastest and easiest way into trucking and everyone has to start somewhere. Sounds like you did? I know I did, well, regional and home weekends. I knew all along I couldnt handle weeks on end in a truck. Anyway, did you ever think our jobs dont appeal to everyone? I drive a crappy truck which I hate. I dont spend much time on the dock but I dont like that either. I have to wear a uniform, no facial hair allowed. Call in boards, lay offs, etc. But I like weekends off, sleeping in my own bed, good pay and bennies. In a perfect world I could take what I like about OTR and combine that with what I like about LTL and make my own job. But I cant so I have to choose whats importatnt to me. Other people have different interests. Besides the lack of experience or interest others live in remote areas where there is no LTL terminal. Others are making 60k with a wife and three kids (and maybe an ex-wife lol) so there's no way they could survive on a call in board or until they get some seniority. Others dont like authority and got into this to get away from bosses and politics. I know there are some well paid OTR guys who have a good gig and love their life the way it is. OTR is a lifestyle LTL is a job. None of us has the right to look down on the other. In the end were all just"dumb truck drivers" trying to make a living. (joking) None of us are rich and famous if you get my drift. Your union gig could be gone tomorrow if your company goes belly up, Remember CF? They thought they had a job for life. All I'm saying is I work at UPSF and I agree with and you still get on my nerves, I can only imagine how the OTR guys feel. Sorry if this offends you I just thought maybe you could lighten up a little. You really come off as kind of concieted, hopefully its not intentional. You know alot about trucking and I think people would like to hear it without being reminded what a good job you have all the time.
#13
03-04-2007, 12:35 PM
Not P@##ed off Frosty, just sick and tired of reading you're same old words everytime you post. :!:
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#14
03-04-2007, 01:12 PM
OK got a load 100 mile DH drop and hook then 860 loaded to valdosta ga getting closer to home winter haven fl ill take the load 960 miles not all that bad and just so u know frosty i had a job pd 28 a hr left after 10 yrs yes after 8 hrs time and a half sun double time but just because that was a good living what is living when you hurt all the time and every one of your so called union bros and sisters always stick there nose in your business at least out here its mostly you. all i was stating was dont like to sit want to keep going i just keep on there a.. and they finally got me the load i find most the people who complain about pay and no miles are the ones who sit at terminals and bit.. but when they get a load they sit till the last min to leave. i leave as soon as i get the load get there drop or live unload whatever i would rather get there and have the chance to get it done then move on to another. anyway today was just a bit.h session thanks every one I'm on here everynite after i stop. o by the way when I'm sitting with no load i log sleeper or off duty why would i do anything else if I'm not working
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