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In the topic on single-clutching, a few people posted that in truckdriving school, it's easier to teach someone who has little/no exp. on a standard than someone who alreay knows how (in a regular car).
That really takes a lot off my mind. I'm hardly any good on a stick myself, and I start trucking school Jan. 8, and I was worried that my not knowing how to drive a standard-shift would put me behind or at a disadvantage. I didn't know if they teach you how to drive a standard, or if they assumed you already knew how to drive one, so this is good for me. ![]() (BTW, the same examiner I had when I got my Class B license will be the instructor of the truckdriving class, if you wanted to know)
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Yeah well I used to say that until I became a CDL instructor. But either way, it shouldn't be a big deal. The main thing is the clutch handling, and we started out with 3 sessions of practice range, so the student had plenty of time to get used to the idea of the clutch while he was doing that.
As far as the actual shifting is concerned, learning to double clutch will be a lot easier if you know WHY you have to do it and what you accomplish by doing it.
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This is the reason is IS easier to teach those with no experience. Even if you know how to drive a standard transmission, it in no way helps you other than knowing how to go through a shift pattern. The clutch use is totally different and the things that can screw you up (going too deep in the clutch, single clutching, starting off while applying accelerator) are already stuck in your head. As a person with no experience you only have to mentally grab what you have recently been taught. People tend you resort to the known and grab for that FIRST in times of stress and emergencies. if this means that when you are missing a shift in a truck (and all your life have pushed the clutch to the floor to make the transmission work in your car.).. and push the clutch to the floor to make it work, your going to take longer to recover and get back off the clutch to get everything moving together to make the shift. Time equals space, the more time you take recovering makes you run out of room and miss and screw up things that you really shouldnt be missing or screwing up.
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
This is the reason is IS easier to teach those with no experience. Even if you know how to drive a standard transmission, it in no way helps you other than knowing how to go through a shift pattern. The clutch use is totally different and the things that can screw you up (going too deep in the clutch, single clutching, starting off while applying accelerator) are already stuck in your head. As a person with no experience you only have to mentally grab what you have recently been taught. People tend you resort to the known and grab for that FIRST in times of stress and emergencies. if this means that when you are missing a shift in a truck (and all your life have pushed the clutch to the floor to make the transmission work in your car.).. and push the clutch to the floor to make it work, your going to take longer to recover and get back off the clutch to get everything moving together to make the shift. Time equals space, the more time you take recovering makes you run out of room and miss and screw up things that you really shouldn't be missing or screwing up.
Above I called double clutching a sequence, maybe it's a rhythm.... which I have none! :lol: TimT Cut-N-Shoot, Tx
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The best way to learn this and have it stick is to talk it through OUT LOUD! Men especially seem to feel childish doing this, but it works! It's sort of like chanting a mantra..
During your upshifts try saying; "Tap - neutral - tap - shift" and you'll eventually set up a rhythm . Down shifts are a little more tricky and require some serious concentration and a couple of extra steps. Most new people do not use the BRAKES well enough to get their RPM down effectively. Drag the RPM down - tap - neutral - RAISE RPM - tap - shift.
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
...talk it through OUT LOUD! It's sort of like chanting a mantra.. ...try saying; "Tap - neutral - tap - shift" and you'll eventually set up a rhythm . Drag the RPM down - tap - neutral - RAISE RPM - tap - shift.
ops: Thanks for the chant. :lol: TimT Cut-N-Shoot, Tx
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
The best way to learn this and have it stick is to talk it through OUT LOUD! Men especially seem to feel childish doing this, but it works! It's sort of like chanting a mantra..
During your upshifts try saying; "Tap - neutral - tap - shift" and you'll eventually set up a rhythm . Down shifts are a little more tricky and require some serious concentration and a couple of extra steps. Most new people do not use the BRAKES well enough to get their RPM down effectively. Drag the RPM down - tap - neutral - RAISE RPM - tap - shift. You put your left foot out, You put your left foot in, and shake it all about...
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Originally Posted by BuddhaTim
Originally Posted by Fozzy
...talk it through OUT LOUD! It's sort of like chanting a mantra.. ...try saying; "Tap - neutral - tap - shift" and you'll eventually set up a rhythm . Drag the RPM down - tap - neutral - RAISE RPM - tap - shift.
ops: Thanks for the chant. :lol: TimT Cut-N-Shoot, Tx
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So you're not supposed to let off the clutch as you apply the accelerator? :?:
Fozzy wrote: "e clutch use is totally different and the things that can screw you up (going too deep in the clutch, single clutching, starting off while applying accelerator)"
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