IF the owner is the only employee. The second that he adds employees, I'm pretty sure than there are a lot more problems or at least potential ones. A company cannot legally offer a dangerous truck to drive and a company cannot offer an unsafe work environment.

I WITH you on this if it meant getting the smokers off the streets and out of doorways. Just as they have drinking clubs, there ought to have smokers lounges. I just don't think its legal to do so.

 

A company cannot legally offer a dangerous truck to drive and a company cannot offer an unsafe work environment.


Apples/Oranges

 

Eugene, OR and Corvalis, OR has banned outdoor smoking. I don't go to those cities anymore, no more Duck or Beaver games. The industry I was in before I re-jumped back into trucking used to hold a 5 day conference every year in Eugene, OR. They don't anymore, they moved it up to Portland this year because attendance dropped. All hotels in Eugene are now non-smoking.

PS: I happen to be a pachyderm living in a jackass state, but I voted for right to die twice.

 

Have you ever seen LA on a bad day. Can a city be sued for offering a hazardous living environment? Where does it stop?

 

Sounds like a good idea to me........it stops when WE ALL have healthy air to breath.........which will probably never happen, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to improve as much as we can while we're here.

 

I'm seeing more and more bars and restaurants changing to private clubs. That takes them outside these types of laws. Many are also adding clauses to their employee agreements saying they are a smoking establishment.

To me this is the way it should be. The owner should have the final say on this matter. If the anti-smoking bunch want to make it illegal then get a law passed that makes ALL smoking illegal. As long as smoking is legal then it should be the owner's decision not some government decision.

Same thing can be said about these new attempts about trans-fat laws.

kc0iv

 

Government is not the answer to every problem. In reality, the more government gets involved in our lives the more complicated things become and the more our basic freedoms are eroded. Everything can't nor should be regulated.

 

Ok ill bite.

What on earth do you have against the transfat laws? What viable reason could you possibly have to consume trans fat?

Its amazing how noone ever cared or knew anything about transfat, or whether they consumed any, until someone came along and said they cant.

On a side note, did anyone see the Documentary on North Korea last night?

These arguments over silly laws seem pretty meaningless after seeing that. Transfat or not, tobacco or not, im very grateful for where I live and the freedoms I have.

 

I understand where you are coming from, and I agree we live in the greatest country the world has ever seen. Now if every time some silly little law comes to pass, like the anti smoking or trans fat laws then pretty soon we will have no freedoms at all. Like GMAN said it is being eroded away, bit by bit.
So lets not loose sight of the bigger picture.. IRAN but lets also not let all of our Freedoms be striped away from us in the background.

 

"Any government that can promote private property rights can take them away".

I learned this in school in Economics and how it applied to developing nations.