Local vs. OTR for future options?
#11
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sulphur Springs, TX
Posts: 528
Tough call. In my neck of the woods, $13/hr is pretty good, considering most driving jobs pay anywhere from $7/hr to $12/hr. Cost of living you know. NE Texas is a cheap area to live. On the other hand it sounds like a scam of sorts. Sure, you'll have a job, but this guy probably wants you run 16+ hours a day, in a POS rig. You'll be running illegal most of the time. DOT fines will come out of your pocket. In the end fines will eat up as much as a quarter of your yearly pay, maybe more. Plus, you'll be lucky to get any kind of benefits. I wouldn't consider it, especially with a family, unless the wife has a good job and bennies for the kids.
OTR, you'll make more, plus good bennies, but, depending on the company and their freight, you probably won't see the family all that much. With two young kids, I'm not so sure I'd want to do it. Some flatbed companies offer much better hometime than the big van outfits, and at least you'll see the kids most weekends. Even doing the local dirt-hauling gig, you'll be lucky if anyone is still awake by the time you get home, and you'll probably be leaving the house hours before anyone is up. Something to think about. I think I'd choose OTR flatbed. 8)
#12
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Posts: 41
Well, most of you have pretty much echoed my sentiments.
We were back out at our backing range again today and the same guy as well as some of the other employees were going by again and I swear that none of the trucks had brakes, or if they did, nobody used them. All you heard was downshifting and jaking..not once did I see brake lights. My instructor has also mentioned that most dirt haulers are old POS trucks that aren't maintained worth a damn. $13 an hour, while that is an average wage around here (Albuquerque, NM), I have seen mixer drivers being hired at $18+ starting. What I was mainly concerned with were my future "expansion" options. I know that most of the more desireable OTR companies won't count local experience, such as dirt hauling, nor will some of the higher end local LTL companies like Yellow. On the flip side, OTR experience can be carried over into local jobs and is usually preferred. I began researching things months before I ever started school, have been researching and talking to drivers while in school, and when I get done in another 7 business days, I will continue to research things. So far, I seem most interested in TMC but I'm not too sure how I'd like skateboarding as my first experience. I'm fortunate enough that I was able to pay for my school and obtain my CDL on my own - plus I also have the benefit of being able to spend some time looking at companies rather than being desperate for cash to the point that I'd jump with the first company that put an application in front of me. I turned Swift down on the spot....the recruiter seemed shocked that a "new" drver would do something like that. On a side note, I guess my instructor used to drive for Southern Cal Transport and he called a budy of his in the company and had some strings pulled...they're going to take 2 of his drivers as soon as the class is finished. Only bad thing about the deal is that Southern Cal is team only and I don't know if I'd be comfortable doing something like that.
#13
Originally Posted by Iron_Weasel
On the flip side, OTR experience can be carried over into local jobs and is usually preferred.
#14
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sulphur Springs, TX
Posts: 528
Yeah, hauling for a reputible OTR outfit is your best bet for the future as far as LTL is concerned. And a good LTL outfit is almost always best for local driving with good hours, holidays off, fantastic pay, and good benefits. As far as hauling flatbed is concerned, I really believe you have to want to do it because it's who you are and what you're about. In flatbedding, you're responsible for that load. You take pride in every load you haul. Flatbedding is all about learning, from one day to another, with each load, taking pride in that load, your securement, your tarp job, and getting it delivered safely. Don't ever pay attention to the hotshots who dare to "race" you or brag about how they can get a load secured in only fifteen minutes where as it may take you an hour. Some folks get into just for the money. It does pay better than van, but I think folks that get into just for the money are the first ones to wind up losing a load and killing someone because they were in too much of a hurry. It's up to you, but I think OTR will probably be better for getting started. BOL! 8)
#15
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 36
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Stay local and take any offers you can get to start. Local company's will also train you and always pay more. Un-like most of the others you will be home every night and many pay overtime, something you will never find in an OTR position. Get some experience and see if you really like this kind of job and if you do you will be able to move on to another company as many have in the past.. Good Luck, DC
#17
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 252
Experience and good references will get you a job anywhere. IMO a lot of otr guys are just steering wheel holders. At least doing local dump work you'll have a chance to learn something and use your brain for more things than just finding out where the best truckstop is. Young family at home? Stay local there's a lot more to life than just money!
#18
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Northern NV
Posts: 707
Try and stay local. If you can't find anything else take the $13hr gig as a placeholder while you find something better. If you have family don't go OTR its just not compatible.
For reference a while back before I got my start time at Con-Way I was looking at a dump truck job, larger outfit here in Reno. $15-17/hr, OT after 82 hrs in a 2 week period, and weak bennies that take 6 months to kick in. This was for someone with the ink still wet on their CDL.
#19
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 71
Depends on where you are from.
13 bucks an hour is damn good near me. Then again houses are cheaper then cars here too.
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