Setting the idle up when parked and in the sleeper?
#31
10-16-2005, 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by Uncle Fester
I use to do that no-idling fuel bonus stuff, and nearly got frostbite on my toes for a lousy .03cpm which brought me up to the princely sum of .26cpm in the mid-90's.
If your idle time is extreamly high, like over 50% they might say something, but even if they do, don't worry about it. Sleep, COMFORTABLE, RESTFUL sleep is just as much a need as diesel, food and air. I cannot stand it when people who sit in air conditoned offices, drive in air conditoned care to air conditoned homes expect you to sweat to death for the sake of the bottom line. When I was at KLLM, I took the Vice President of M.I.S. (Media and Information Services) out for a week and our second run was to Dayton, Texas and delivered at Sam's Club at 0'dark-thirty on a hot, muggy summer night. Since I had the window screens in, it was letting all the super-heated air into the cab from the trucks next to us that had their motors turning. This guy was in the top bunk (heat rises), sweating like a hooker in church! The next day, he asked me how we could possibly sleep in conditions like the ones I subjected him to suffering? I said, you'll pay for the reefer fuel to keep a load cool, but not for me to get a decent nights sleep. We get these dictates from people in offices that are climate controled along with the DUMBEST suggestions on how to keep the truck cool in the summer or warm in the winter that never work. If you treated prisoners like this, the ACLU would go ballistic and yet it's perfectly acceptable for corporate to insist that those who generate the revenue that powers this comapny to suffer in conditions that rapists and murders aren't subjected to enduring. I do the best I can do under the circumstances when I'm given the option of making a lower wage, or suffering a little to earn someting extra. I would ask you, how do YOU sleep at night? The fuel bonus program fell by the wayside not too long thereafter and I stay comfortable, although I do hook up to Idle-Aire whenever I can and don't idle "stupid" except in the summer, my cat would die from heat stroke.
#32
10-18-2005, 12:06 PM
I like how you think, toothpick!
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#33
10-18-2005, 12:25 PM
I got to fiddling around on Detroit Series 60 Spec sheet and discovered a couple of things about idling:
Under normal conditions the engine will use about 3/4 gallon of fuel per hour at idle. Detroit offers an option that allows the engine to idle with only three cylinders "under special conditions". I'm betting that ain't the the AC on  There is also an option that will shut the engine down when the cabin temp is right and start it back up when the temp is wrong. Going back to that 3/4 gallon per hour. If I were an O/O and I had to shut down for 34 hours in Arizona in July, I'd just find a cheap hotel. You're going to use 25 gallons of fuel idling, right? That's 75 bucks. May as well be comfortable and use the pool. 8)
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#34
10-18-2005, 12:44 PM
Try this on for size. My tuck was averaging 5.2mpg. I read on this board somewhere that because you have to raise the rpms before you down shift you are burning excess fuel,so just for kicks I quit downshifting. About the same time I lost my spare key to my truck so I have to shut it off and lock it up when I'm not in it. My fuel milage went up to6.5mpg and has been as high as 7.7 on a single tank. Since I own a small piece of the company I keep an eye on the bottom line where I can. This to me was a real eye opener. Almost an extra mile and a half per gallon on an average month makes a big difference in what we have to pay for fuel. Multiplied over many trucks you'd be looking at major bucks. I idle whenever I'm in my truck but if I gotta get out its turned off till I get back in. Just a little food for thought.......Don
#35
10-18-2005, 01:01 PM
Originally Posted by Bisquit
Try this on for size. My tuck was averaging 5.2mpg. I read on this board somewhere that because you have to raise the rpms before you down shift you are burning excess fuel,so just for kicks I quit downshifting. About the same time I lost my spare key to my truck so I have to shut it off and lock it up when I'm not in it. My fuel mileage went up to6.5mpg and has been as high as 7.7 on a single tank. Since I own a small piece of the company I keep an eye on the bottom line where I can. This to me was a real eye opener. Almost an extra mile and a half per gallon on an average month makes a big difference in what we have to pay for fuel. Multiplied over many trucks you'd be looking at major bucks. I idle whenever I'm in my truck but if I gotta get out its turned off till I get back in. Just a little food for thought.......Don
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#36
10-18-2005, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by One
Dont idle unless u have to... If the temps are reasonable, and u got a warm blanky, theres no need to idle in the winter. Just ask urself how cold is it gonna get tonight and decide then. Cold starts are never good 4 an engine, so try to avoid starting it when its coldest out..6am.
#37
10-18-2005, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bikerboy
My volvo engine, says not too use a high idle, but i never sleep in it anyway.
#38
10-18-2005, 01:59 PM
Lady North...
Looks like a quarter horse/ throughbred cross ?? Beauty....and how often are those front bumpers paying for themselves?? Here in N.Michigan...the winters have been mild now for years. Haven't seen any thing severe for many moon. Average daytime temps are 20's...our coldest month is Feburary, and outside of short cold spells that drift south outta Canada, we only see 0 to -10F on average. Thats fine with me...never did like sub-zero diet all winter long. But...N. Michigan is changing too much from what it was for me through my youth....I'm seriously considering moving further NORTH.
#39
10-18-2005, 02:05 PM
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QH/TB eh? Had one of those, they looked nothing alike.
She is actually 3/4 Percheron and 1/4 Quarter Horse. :lol: She's 3, stands about 16.2 hands and about 1600 pounds so far. The bumpers end up being priceless! I still avoid animals as much as I would without it, I can't even stand hitting a little Grouse, but even more, I couldn't stand having all my lights smashed off that I've invested in!
Originally Posted by roadhog
Lady North...
Looks like a quarter horse/ throughbred cross ?? Beauty....and how often are those front bumpers paying for themselves?? Here in N.Michigan...the winters have been mild now for years. Haven't seen any thing severe for many moon. Average daytime temps are 20's...our coldest month is Feburary, and outside of short cold spells that drift south outta Canada, we only see 0 to -10F on average. Thats fine with me...never did like sub-zero diet all winter long. But...N. Michigan is changing too much from what it was for me through my youth....I'm seriously considering moving further NORTH.
#40
10-18-2005, 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Lady North
Originally Posted by One
Dont idle unless u have to... If the temps are reasonable, and u got a warm blanky, theres no need to idle in the winter. Just ask urself how cold is it gonna get tonight and decide then. Cold starts are never good 4 an engine, so try to avoid starting it when its coldest out..6am.
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