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Graymist 11-15-2009 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379 (Post 466965)
If I get banned, oh well, but whether he's a muslim or not, he's a dot head.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Your level of ignorance is astounding. Just so you know the so-called "dot heads" are Hindus from India, one of the worst sufferers of terrorism at the hands of Pakistan-based Muslim terrorists, who, at one time were on the payrolls of the CIA, in their quest to eject the Soviets from Afghanistan, back in the 80s. India's been waging a lone war against these scum for 2 decades now, and it's only recently, with the shift in global real politik, that they're starting to get heard by the rest of the world, who has, hitherto, been ignoring their plight.

Glad Hand 11-15-2009 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Graymist (Post 467658)
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Your level of ignorance is astounding. Just so you know the so-called "dot heads" are Hindus from India, one of the worst sufferers of terrorism at the hands of Pakistan-based Muslim terrorists, who, at one time were on the payrolls of the CIA, in their quest to eject the Soviets from Afghanistan, back in the 80s. India's been waging a lone war against these scum for 2 decades now, and it's only recently, with the shift in global real politik, that they're starting to get heard by the rest of the world, who has, hitherto, been ignoring their plight.

Actually, the Hindus have been the ongoing victims of jihad not only for two decades but also for many centuries now. Indeed, in addition to India there are victims of jihads all over the world and wherever the Dar al Islam borders the Dar al Harb in places like Thailand, The Philippines, East Timor, Indonesia, Malaysia, China, Chechnya, the Balkans, Israel, Crete, Greece, Armenia, Darfur, Southern Sudan, Nigeria, throughout the Middle East, the Horn of Africa, Northern Africa, and Western Africa. It’s called the bloody borders of Islam.

There is also cold stealth jihad being waged throughout Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and now also in the USA. Although it occasionally flares up as it did on 9/11 and when Major Niddal Hassan waged his bloody jihad.

In any event, exploiting the Muslims to fight our enemies in Afghanistan was incredibly smart policy and much smarter than pursuing liberal fantasy based nation-building missions under the mistaken political correct notion that we can somehow win the hearts and minds of Muslims who are obligated per their religion to hate our guts no matter what, as we have about as much chance of winning their hearts and changing their minds as we had at convincing Major Niddal Hassan to remain a loyal American and to go fight his fellow Muslim brothers.

GMAN 11-15-2009 10:22 AM

The Muslims have been waging Jihad since Mohammed. They were very successful after the Crusades in the Middle Ages in spreading the Islamic doctrine. Much of what is now Islamic territory was once a bastion of Christianity. Turkey was once the home of the Eastern Church, which was Christian. In fact, you can see many former churches in the area that are now solidly Muslim. Muslims have been killing Christians and non Muslims for centuries. I believe the worst genocide against non Muslims in recent years has occured in Africa. I heard one figure this morning that there have been at least 3 million murdered in that area in the name of Allah. We have not heard much about this in the U.S. until the last few years. It is the modern day version of the Holocaust. Islam is spreading across the world like a huge cancer. If we don't stop it now then it will continue until it engulfs the entire world.

jonp 11-15-2009 03:49 PM

Some credible sources are saying that the reason the Pakistanis are moving into the tribal areas now to deal with the terrorists is not out of any threats made by the US but because after the Indians suffered the attacks last year they told the Paki's that either they move to take care of the problem or the Indians would do it for them.

ironeagle_2006 11-16-2009 12:44 AM

Remember India has NUKES and would nOT BE AFARID TO USE THEM IN PAKISTAN EITHER. Why would get rid of their Enemy there FOREVER. That plus would give them one hell of a bargining chip in any future neogotiations with any country in that area even China why either do this or we will NUKE YOUR ASSES.

GMAN 11-16-2009 02:06 AM

Pakistan and India have been butting heads for years. If India every decided to move against Pakistan it would be a blood bath. India has many more people than in the U.S. They have one of the most populated countries in the world. I don't know how large their army is but with clost to a billion people they could support a very large army. Even with conventional military action they could over whelm Pakistan in short order, if they so chose. I don't see India as an aggressive nation nor do I see them turning the other cheek for very long. Some of these countries are fed up with these terrorists and those who support and shelter them. We need to start holding these countries accountable.

ironeagle_2006 11-16-2009 02:13 AM

Gman I could see India using Nukes for one reason to Stop Al-Queda to stop from getting them. First Target would have to be the Storage areas for them then the areas were Al-Queada is strongest to stop them. India would do what ever is needed to stop them.

Glad Hand 11-16-2009 09:56 AM

If the USA weren’t so blinded by political correct multiculturalism, moral relativism, cultural relativism, and moral equivalence, it would pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan ASAP, since the excuse that is used to justify staying is an absurd ridiculous joke. The reality is the entire Dar al Islam is a terrorist haven and terrorist breeding ground. How many Afghanis took part in the 9/11 terrorist attacks? How many Afghanis flooded into Iraq during the height of the insurgency for martyrdom operations? The answer is zero.

Although seventeen of the nineteen 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia and in excess of 40 percent of the suicide/homicide bombers that flocked through Syria into Iraq were also Saudis from Saudi Arabia, none of them were Afghanis. Thus, the notion that if we abandon Iraq and Afghanistan they will become terrorist havens is an absurd joke. The reality is the entire Dar al Islam is a damn terrorist haven.

Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not a peacenik or a delusional oblivious leftist. I want to fight and resist the Global jihad, but I want to approach it far more intelligently that we are currently doing right now.

For instance, Iran is on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons which if comes to fruition will lead to nuclear proliferation throughout the Dar al Islam, as the Sunnis will race to counter a nuclear armed Shi’a Iran. Yet, instead of taking care business and eliminating the Iranian threat altogether, the Dhimmicrats and the Republicans are both focused instead on pursuing fantasy based nation building mission to win the hearts and minds of Muslims, which, by the way, is literally impossible since in order to become loyal friends and allies with kafir infidel Americans, Muslims have to betray their religion and at the same time be condemned to hell, and hell will freeze over long before that ever happens.

Thus, instead of sending more troops to pursue a PC fantasy based nation building mission in Afghanistan, lets get the hell out of Dodge, take care of business with Iran, and confiscate and destroy the Pakistani nuclear weapons for starters, and if AQ is in Pakistan like they have been for the past nine years, then we need to be in Pakistan instead of Afghanistan hunting them down like the rabid animals they are.

The last thing we need to be doing today is pursuing a silly fantasy based nation-building mission in either Iraq or Afghanistan. That is not only exceedingly counterproductive, it is a complete waste of time since as soon as we leave either place, they will promptly rejoin the perpetual global jihad, but only stronger than otherwise thanks to our help.

In other words, we need to get our priorities straight or else our children and grandchildren will be paying the jizya or otherwise praying five times a day while facing Mecca.

Roadhog 11-16-2009 10:27 AM

After this Jihadist terrorist attack by Maj. Hasan, I expected more attacks on American Right's as a result, instead of an attack on the PC problems in Washington D.C.

Liberals condemning guns and American's "love...(not Right)...l-o-v-e of guns" ...in 5-4-3-2....

doh!...too late. Sen. Chuck Shummer (NY-D) and Mayor Richard Daley (Chicago-D) (no surprise there) already have launched the attack on 2nd. Amendment Rights. Sooooo predictable. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../loudlaugh.gif

Man, I'm never this political. (outwardly) Of course millions of Americans are fed up and speaking out now. Political insanity is going on everyday, and getting worse. I think these liberals are going to win in the end...only for loosing. But...I think these mental midgets in Washington D.C. should have taken away our 2nd Amendment Rights before they launched their fundamental transformation of America. Stupid is as Stupid does. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../loudlaugh.gif

GMAN 11-16-2009 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006 (Post 467725)
Gman I could see India using Nukes for one reason to Stop Al-Queda to stop from getting them. First Target would have to be the Storage areas for them then the areas were Al-Queada is strongest to stop them. India would do what ever is needed to stop them.


I think India has come close to using nukes against Pakistan a couple of times in recent years. Tensions have gotten pretty high between the two nations. If you are going to have a war it needs to be run by the generals and soldiers in the field, not the politicians. That is how we got bogged down so much in Vietnam. There was absolutely NO reason we should have been fighting there for more than 12-18 months. Instead, it was a protracted war run from Washington by then Secretary of State McNamara and Lyndon Johnson, who was president at the time. I see the same trend today in this War on Terrorism.


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