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Dejanh 08-30-2009 04:37 AM

Attention...
 
ATTENTION: New Obama Law! All white people must report to the cotton fields tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. for orientation!

cdswans 08-30-2009 08:29 AM

I just tried a quick search for something I read a few years ago. No luck. I'll look harder when I have a little more time.

Basically it described how our economy and the welfare class would have flourished if people seeking public assistance had been forced on to road crews or to take agricultural work. The premise is simple enough: work is better than welfare anyway you measure it. The conclusion was that the welfare class would cease to exist within one or two generations.

There have been many recent articles that talk about people returning to the land. I'll look up a few if there is any interest in this thread.

GMAN 08-30-2009 07:08 PM

During the Great Depression of 1929 those who wanted to work built bridges and roads all over the country. Some of those bridges are still in use today. Back then people had more pride. Most would not accept a government handout without working for it.

ironeagle_2006 08-31-2009 02:34 AM

Boy if that became law Chicago will cease to EXSIST because all of Obamas BROTHERS will BURN THAT CITY TO THE GROUND SCREAMING RACISM LEd by Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton if they were made to Work. Hell I see Welfare Reciptiants that are driving a freaking Naviagator on rims that have to cost at least 4-5 grand and yet nothing gets done about it.

Jackrabbit379 08-31-2009 04:32 AM

My dad, and his 2 brothers worked in cotton fields, when they were growing up in Electra,(Tx) (about 25 miles west of Wichita Falls on 287)
Only a few farmers had cotton strippers, and most could not afford someone else to strip their cotton for them. My dad has scars on his hands from the petals on the cotton bolls. He's told me, I don't know how many times, but it seems like he said they made 25 cents a day.

Scoe 08-31-2009 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Dejanh (Post 460772)
ATTENTION: New Obama Law! All white people must report to the cotton fields tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. for orientation!


Only those who are 100% white? Sounds pretty Arian to me, otherwise Obama will be out there in the fields too as he is at least 50% white.

mommee 08-31-2009 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Scoe (Post 460894)
Only those who are 100% white? Sounds pretty Arian to me, otherwise Obama will be out there in the fields too as he is at least 50% white.

you wouldn't know it. he tends to forget that part of his heritage. ;)

Part Time Dweller 08-31-2009 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006 (Post 460872)
Hell I see Welfare Reciptiants that are driving a freaking Naviagator on rims that have to cost at least 4-5 grand and yet nothing gets done about it.

Try $4-5 grand each.

And those aren't welfare recipients, those are entrepreneurs. They make their fortune selling drugs to the white folk. Ain't America great? :thumbsup:

cdswans 08-31-2009 03:25 PM

Homework not quite finished . . this is the source document:

Workfare vs. Welfare: Incentive Arguments For Work Requirements In Poverty Allevation Programs

The article I paraphrased (and am still looking for) is a synopsis of this report and it's a lot easier to digest.



Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006 (Post 460872)
Boy if that became law Chicago will cease to EXSIST because all of Obamas BROTHERS will BURN THAT CITY TO THE GROUND SCREAMING RACISM LEd by Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton if they were made to Work. Hell I see Welfare Reciptiants that are driving a freaking Naviagator on rims that have to cost at least 4-5 grand and yet nothing gets done about it.

There are more whites on welfare than blacks. The ratio of blacks on welfare as a percentage of the black population is considerably higher than whites. So, as Scoe points out, it is an issue for ALL of Obama's kin. Chicago is an excellent example of a dying urban area with no jobs and astronomical numbers of perfectly healthy and employable people on welfare. It makes sense to relocate these people to rural areas where jobs and economic standing seem to be plentiful for illegal immigrants.

As to mischief makers Al and Jesse, I can't begin to enumerate the number of pages I've read that make it very clear . . unless the blacks are "oppressed", Al and Jesse have no platform nor power. They claim to speak in the interests of their constituents and they both have become quite wealthy. The constituents are still on the dole but Al and Jesse are doing OK. There are countless politicians from both sides of the aisle and at every level of government who play by the same rules. Give a man a check and you can bet he'll vote for you. Give a man a job and his priorities could change or he might not have time to vote for you.

Windwalker 09-01-2009 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 460865)
During the Great Depression of 1929 those who wanted to work built bridges and roads all over the country. Some of those bridges are still in use today. Back then people had more pride. Most would not accept a government handout without working for it.

And, in 1929, you did not have to have a school deploma in order to get a job on a road crew. Just put in your application. Today, you have to have a diploma from an equipment school to even apply. Now, get the welfare people back to work. Who's paying for their school? And, when you come up with the funding for that, I'll go too.:thumbsup:

Mr. Ford95 09-01-2009 09:09 AM

Could come work for us Wind, don't require a diploma but do require a valid DL and the ability to use your brain at times. We teach you how to run the equipment we have from curbmachine's to backhoe's to dozer's to trenchers and anything else we get to use.

Some places around here would rather see a school certificate that says you know how to run equipment, others just want you to show them first hand and could care less if you learned at a school or not.

GMAN 09-01-2009 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Windwalker (Post 460933)
And, in 1929, you did not have to have a school deploma in order to get a job on a road crew. Just put in your application. Today, you have to have a diploma from an equipment school to even apply. Now, get the welfare people back to work. Who's paying for their school? And, when you come up with the funding for that, I'll go too.:thumbsup:


It was unheard of back then for the government to pay for training. Companies did their own training. If you were willing to work then they would train you. They also got a good education with only 8 years of schooling. Some of today's college graduates would have difficulty passing the 8th grade final exam back then. People also had more common sense. At that time people were accustomed to taking care of themselves. Today they want to find a government program to do it for them. Most construction jobs didn't care if you had a diploma or not as long as you were willing to work and learn.

bentstrider 09-01-2009 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 460947)
It was unheard of back then for the government to pay for training. Companies did their own training. If you were willing to work then they would train you. They also got a good education with only 8 years of schooling. Some of today's college graduates would have difficulty passing the 8th grade final exam back then. People also had more common sense. At that time people were accustomed to taking care of themselves. Today they want to find a government program to do it for them. Most construction jobs didn't care if you had a diploma or not as long as you were willing to work and learn.

I seem to recall stories of companies that would actually put people through universities in exchange for working a set of hours a week at the sponsoring company while attending classes.

Nowadays, it's "come back when you have the degree, and maybe we'll give you a tuition reimbursement for your troubles."
It seems that "On-The-Job" is becoming less of a thing these days.

Another thing they should do as far as school is concerned is limit the general education to specific math and English/communication classes that will be used immediately in conjunction with the job.
Fine arts, foreign language and other humanities should be reserved for those foolish enough to be want to join some type of PR team later on in their life.

Windwalker 09-01-2009 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95 (Post 460942)
Could come work for us Wind, don't require a diploma but do require a valid DL and the ability to use your brain at times. We teach you how to run the equipment we have from curbmachine's to backhoe's to dozer's to trenchers and anything else we get to use.

Some places around here would rather see a school certificate that says you know how to run equipment, others just want you to show them first hand and could care less if you learned at a school or not.

Used to have my own dozer when I was in WI. Got just as much use with it in winter to move snow around. Traded that in for a "YEAR-ROUND FISHING ROD". As soon as I get retired, I'll start wearing out that reel faster.

b00m 09-01-2009 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Dejanh (Post 460772)
ATTENTION: New Obama Law! All white people must report to the cotton fields tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. for orientation!

That's allright! We'll SHOW them how is done.

I'm a first generation of immigrants that came to the states when I was 17 8 years ago. My family started hard and I did any jobs that would make me money, including cleaning jobs,the ones that not a lot of people would do,mostly you know who.
But yeah,times are better now,but I've never been afraid of honest work,something my grandfather thought me when I was a little kid.

bentstrider 09-01-2009 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by b00m (Post 460977)
That's allright! We'll SHOW them how is done.

I'm a first generation of immigrants that came to the states when I was 17 8 years ago. My family started hard and I did any jobs that would make me money, including cleaning jobs,the ones that not a lot of people would do,mostly you know who.
But yeah,times are better now,but I've never been afraid of honest work,something my grandfather thought me when I was a little kid.

Remember the times when you could deliver papers on bicycle and mow lawns for movie-money??

Apparently everyone got too cheap, or too weak for that matter.
Newspapers decided that the papers got too heavy and that kids would croak under the weight, instead, they've gained the weight.
And small-time, lawn work has become somewhat of a mixed bag.
People don't usually hire the kid down the street due to fear of something being stolen, job not properly done, Mr Jones wants to proudly display his riding mower skills., etc

GMAN 09-02-2009 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by b00m (Post 460977)
That's allright! We'll SHOW them how is done.

I'm a first generation of immigrants that came to the states when I was 17 8 years ago. My family started hard and I did any jobs that would make me money, including cleaning jobs,the ones that not a lot of people would do,mostly you know who.
But yeah,times are better now,but I've never been afraid of honest work,something my grandfather thought me when I was a little kid.


I think we gain much from those coming to this country legally. Immigrants built this nation. There are so many natural born citizens who think that some jobs are beneath them. Frankly, I think any honest work you can do is good. My family passed a strong work ethic along to us. We learned at a very early age that you work for what you want.

GMAN 09-02-2009 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by bentstrider (Post 460979)
Remember the times when you could deliver papers on bicycle and mow lawns for movie-money??

Apparently everyone got too cheap, or too weak for that matter.
Newspapers decided that the papers got too heavy and that kids would croak under the weight, instead, they've gained the weight.
And small-time, lawn work has become somewhat of a mixed bag.
People don't usually hire the kid down the street due to fear of something being stolen, job not properly done, Mr Jones wants to proudly display his riding mower skills., etc


Liability is a concern with many people. Everyone is afraid of being sued if the kid gets hurt on their property. I think it has more to do with litigation than theft. There aren't as many kids who want or need to work these days. Mom and dad will give them whatever money they need so there is little need for them to get a job.

bentstrider 09-02-2009 02:28 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 460987)
Liability is a concern with many people. Everyone is afraid of being sued if the kid gets hurt on their property. I think it has more to do with litigation than theft. There aren't as many kids who want or need to work these days. Mom and dad will give them whatever money they need so there is little need for them to get a job.

Not when I was growing up.
Luckily, they let me stay with them whenever things are tight, but for the most part, no assistance.
Same thing irks me about all these parents whining about how much college is going to cost for their kid.
My stepdad worked in a steelmill all throughout college and graduated with his B/S in Education debt-free.

The way I see it, our country has grown collectively weak in alot of places.
Physical strength, monetary-reasoning, general holding it together.

But then again, it could also be due to the fact that alot of Orange and LA County princesses are buying cheap houses up in the desert and bringing their charade of an uptight attitude with them.
And with their equally ignorant children filling up the local college here and turning it and every other place in the desert into a Starbucks, I'm high-tailing it as soon as I've got the means.

kotflb 09-17-2009 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by b00m (Post 460977)
That's allright! We'll SHOW them how is done.

I'm a first generation of immigrants that came to the states when I was 17 8 years ago. My family started hard and I did any jobs that would make me money, including cleaning jobs,the ones that not a lot of people would do,mostly you know who.
But yeah,times are better now,but I've never been afraid of honest work,something my grandfather thought me when I was a little kid.

Mostly, I don't know who!! But I do know what kind of A*****E would make a statement like that. You've only been here a little while and now your better then other folks? because your willing to clean toilets for near nothing? Get real. :moon:

I would think you shoulda considered yourself lucky to even have a job, seeing you just got over here. And remember that a low wage job like that can't feed, clothes, or pay for shelter for a family.

Some of you complain about folks on welfare, which is like two drops of water in a bucket compared to the hundreds of BILLIONS given the those millionaire stock brokers and bankers. That's what you should be Bit****n about. Your focused on one apple, while the big boys are stealing the whole orchard, and then killing your trees. DAM*IT MAN. That's exactly what they want you to focus on. Pit one small guy against the other while they steal your whole family blind.

I could care less what color a person is, we all need to stand together, arm in arm, be it welfare receiver or a 200 truck company owner. Corporate America doesn't support us, we support them. If we go down, they just move overseas ( Haliburton ) to try to enslave the next bunch of small thinking people. And if it's welfare that you don't like, stop buying China made goods at Walmart and start supporting U.S made goods So that the so called "MOSTLY YOU KNOW WHO'S" can have decent paying jobs and won't need welfare. :clap: Steps down off of soapbox :fire:

kotflb 09-17-2009 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by mommee (Post 460907)
you wouldn't know it. he tends to forget that part of his heritage. ;)

Funny, I hadn't noticed President Obama doing anything favoring one race over another.

Now I will admit he has favored the CLASS of the super rich over the rest of us, by giving THEM our hard earned tax money for this so called bailout. And that didn't help any people of color. But then George W. started that, didn't he? Sounds as tho your upset because none of your rich stock broker/ banker relatives didn't give you a cut.

Now, would it make you feel better if he did the two step or square dance on the front lawn of the white house? :lol2:

GMAN 09-18-2009 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by kotflb (Post 462651)
Mostly, I don't know who!! But I do know what kind of A*****E would make a statement like that. You've only been here a little while and now your better then other folks? because your willing to clean toilets for near nothing? Get real. :moon:

I would think you shoulda considered yourself lucky to even have a job, seeing you just got over here. And remember that a low wage job like that can't feed, clothes, or pay for shelter for a family.

Actually, there are some who are supporting their families with this type of job. Some have become entrepreneurs and started their own cleaning business and are doing well.

Some of you complain about folks on welfare, which is like two drops of water in a bucket compared to the hundreds of BILLIONS given the those millionaire stock brokers and bankers. That's what you should be Bit****n about. Your focused on one apple, while the big boys are stealing the whole orchard, and then killing your trees. DAM*IT MAN. That's exactly what they want you to focus on. Pit one small guy against the other while they steal your whole family blind.

You are right. As long as the politicians can pit one group against the other they can control the masses. There are those who are taking money from both ends. It isn't right, no matter who is doing it.

I could care less what color a person is, we all need to stand together, arm in arm, be it welfare receiver or a 200 truck company owner. Corporate America doesn't support us, we support them. If we go down, they just move overseas ( Haliburton ) to try to enslave the next bunch of small thinking people. And if it's welfare that you don't like, stop buying China made goods at Walmart and start supporting U.S made goods So that the so called "MOSTLY YOU KNOW WHO'S" can have decent paying jobs and won't need welfare. :clap: Steps down off of soapbox :fire:

There are a lot of career welfare receipients where welfare has become the family business for generations.

mommee 09-18-2009 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by kotflb (Post 462652)
Funny, I hadn't noticed President Obama doing anything favoring one race over another.

Now I will admit he has favored the CLASS of the super rich over the rest of us, by giving THEM our hard earned tax money for this so called bailout. And that didn't help any people of color. But then George W. started that, didn't he? Sounds as tho your upset because none of your rich stock broker/ banker relatives didn't give you a cut.

Now, would it make you feel better if he did the two step or square dance on the front lawn of the white house? :lol2:

i didn't say he favored one race over another. i just think he uses his black/muslin heritage when it suits him, like during the campaign to say that 'i am black just like you'.

as for favoring the super rich, he will tax them to death. who do you think pays the most in taxes? and why do you think they have those off shore accounts? they want to keep their money just like you do. i am not defending that practice, just saying everyone wants to keep what is theirs. and btw, my rich relatives are always generous with me and mine. :lol:

Dejanh 09-18-2009 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by mommee (Post 462687)
i just think he uses his black/muslin heritage

Show me the proof Obama is Muslin...i mean Muslim....

mommee 09-18-2009 06:18 AM

i didn't say he was a practicing muslim. MUSLIM/MIDDLE EASTERN HERITAGE. where did he get his name? you can be a jew and not practice the religion. barack obama had the racist pastor, remember?

knightscastle55 09-18-2009 06:29 AM

ok....if ur a responsible homeowner, you still have a home and job......otherwise.....hang on because the middle class will be gone soon.....only poor and rich....and the poor will be helping each other and survive.

Dejanh 09-18-2009 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by mommee (Post 462691)
i didn't say he was a practicing muslim. MUSLIM/MIDDLE EASTERN HERITAGE. where did he get his name? you can be a jew and not practice the religion. barack obama had the racist pastor, remember?

Black people have a right to be racist, whites held them as slaves and denied their right for decades, prosecuted them and killed them by dragging their bodies behind a pick up truck. Burned their churches and so on...should I continue? If i was black i would also bee suspicious of whites.

I declared myself a liberal in Louisa,VA at one of our regular customers last week, they refused to let me unload and i had to call dispatch. That was last week and am white, imagine being black down there decades ago..

You question ones heritage with their opinions, Obama is not Muslim nor he practices their fate and even if he did so what? I am proud to live in a country in which everyone has a shot at being somebody. He didnt pick his name, his parents did and he has nothing to do with Islam.

mommee 09-18-2009 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Dejanh (Post 460772)
ATTENTION: New Obama Law! All white people must report to the cotton fields tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. for orientation!


Originally Posted by Scoe (Post 460894)
Only those who are 100% white? Sounds pretty Arian to me, otherwise Obama will be out there in the fields too as he is at least 50% white.

my whole point was that he uses his minority status when it suits him, that's all. he is black when he wants to be. i think he forgets that he is part white too. he doesn't seem to mention it too often.

and no one has a right to be racist. black people aren't the only one have been discrimanated against in the history of this country.

ordinaryguy 09-18-2009 11:12 AM

and no one has a right to be racist. black people aren't the only one have been discrimanated against in the history of this country.[/QUOTE]



the native americans were killed by the millions by custer and his brute force....

Dejanh 09-18-2009 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by mommee (Post 462703)

and no one has a right to be racist.

Youre right but at least i can understand where they are coming from in their argument about their past..

Rev.Vassago 09-18-2009 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Dejanh (Post 462695)
Black people have a right to be racist, whites held them as slaves and denied their right for decades, prosecuted them and killed them by dragging their bodies behind a pick up truck. Burned their churches and so on...should I continue? If i was black i would also bee suspicious of whites.

Please list the city and state, and landowner that Obama was a slave under. For that matter, please list the city and state that his black ancestors, all of whom are from Kenya, were slaves under.

Thank you.

Syncrosonix 09-18-2009 01:28 PM

if you wanna be all pissy about white people (the french, spanish, portuguese, english, scottish, irish, etc...) having slaves. i think you should check back in history because africa SOLD THEIR OWN PEOPLE to slavery.

i am now done with this discussion. dejanh has shown his/her true colors. he/she is a reverse special "CAD all-star".

GMAN 09-18-2009 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by Dejanh (Post 462695)
Black people have a right to be racist, whites held them as slaves and denied their right for decades, prosecuted them and killed them by dragging their bodies behind a pick up truck. Burned their churches and so on...should I continue? If i was black i would also bee suspicious of whites.

There were very few instances where whites burned black churches or dragged bodies behind a pick up truck. In fact, I only remember a single instance in recent years that gained national press. There have also been instances where black men have brutally raped and killed white women. There has and still is racism on both sides. I remember the white driver who was dragged from his truck and beaten by a mob of angry blacks during the LA riots several years ago. Blacks burned and pillaged businesses in LA. And then demanded that white America rebuilt what they destroyed.

I declared myself a liberal in Louisa,VA at one of our regular customers last week, they refused to let me unload and i had to call dispatch. That was last week and am white, imagine being black down there decades ago..

I have never known of a shipper refusing to unload someone due to their political party. There surely is more to this story.

You question ones heritage with their opinions, Obama is not Muslim nor he practices their fate and even if he did so what? I am proud to live in a country in which everyone has a shot at being somebody. He didnt pick his name, his parents did and he has nothing to do with Islam.


I am not sure what Obama practices. I do remember hearing him state on one occasion that he was Muslim when he was visiting in the Middle East. The media never mentioned it. Whether he was pandering to those with whom he met or actually meant it, only Obama knows for sure. I prefer to take people at their word. He has a Muslim father and studied Islam growing up. It would only seem to be natural that he would be Muslim.

Rev.Vassago 09-19-2009 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 462770)
I prefer to take people at their word. He has a Muslim father and studied Islam growing up. It would only seem to be natural that he would be Muslim.

So you prefer to take people at their word, except when it comes to Obama (who has stated ad nauseum that he is not a Muslim)?

The man attends a CHRISTIAN church, and has done so for a very long time. The fact that he had to LEAVE his CHRISTIAN church after the Rev. Wright controversy is evidence of that. This whole "Obama is a Muslim" is the rantings and ravings of fools who likely believe he's not a US citizen either.

For the record, why does any of this matter anyway? What difference does it make if he IS a Muslim?

GMAN 09-19-2009 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago (Post 462773)
So you prefer to take people at their word, except when it comes to Obama (who has stated ad nauseum that he is not a Muslim)?

The man attends a CHRISTIAN church, and has done so for a very long time. The fact that he had to LEAVE his CHRISTIAN church after the Rev. Wright controversy is evidence of that. This whole "Obama is a Muslim" is the rantings and ravings of fools who likely believe he's not a US citizen either.

For the record, why does any of this matter anyway? What difference does it make if he IS a Muslim?


I heard him state that he was Muslim. It wasn't hearsay nor reported by the media. He stated that he was Muslim in a speech that he gave to some leaders while he visited the Middle East. It matters because he lied. I believe that what people say matters. It show character or lack thereof. He attended a so called Christian church who's pastor is a racist, if you believe your ears. Racism isn't part of the Christian faith, or shouldn't. He did finally leave that church after so much media attention and over 20 years later. I would not have stayed in a church that promotes racism. I also think that the Muslims want to over throw this government or bring this country to it's knees. Obama is doing a great job for them. They should be proud of the job their fellow Muslim brother is doing for them in bringing down the "Great Satan" (America). He may just purport to be what is convenient to get what he wants. He may just be a socialist or fascist. In any case, his actions show a disdain for the basic values most Americans hold dear. He appears to be doing everything he can to destroy this country.

Fredog 09-19-2009 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago (Post 462773)
So you prefer to take people at their word, except when it comes to Obama (who has stated ad nauseum that he is not a Muslim)?

The man attends a CHRISTIAN church, and has done so for a very long time. The fact that he had to LEAVE his CHRISTIAN church after the Rev. Wright controversy is evidence of that. This whole "Obama is a Muslim" is the rantings and ravings of fools who likely believe he's not a US citizen either.

For the record, why does any of this matter anyway? What difference does it make if he IS a Muslim?

I have to say Rev WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE RIGHT!!

Fredog 09-19-2009 01:17 AM

I have a question
 
since so many think Obama's name proves he is a muslim, I would like to know how many of you picked your own name and why?

Dejanh 09-19-2009 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago (Post 462729)
Please list the city and state, and landowner that Obama was a slave under. For that matter, please list the city and state that his black ancestors, all of whom are from Kenya, were slaves under.

Thank you.

I am not talking about president, am talking about blacks in general and why they may be suspicious of whites. It does not matter if he or she was a slave or not, others that were like him were treated that way and if he was born in that day and age, he would be working cotton fields as well just because he is black.
Jews are still suspicious of Germans, even though the younger ones were not even born during a holocaust.

Dejanh 09-19-2009 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 462770)
I am not sure what Obama practices. I do remember hearing him state on one occasion that he was Muslim when he was visiting in the Middle East. The media never mentioned it. Whether he was pandering to those with whom he met or actually meant it, only Obama knows for sure. I prefer to take people at their word. He has a Muslim father and studied Islam growing up. It would only seem to be natural that he would be Muslim.

Thomas Jefferson studied Islam as well. He owned Koran in his office and his patriotism was never questioned.

Whats wrong with learning other cultures, all intellectuals do it to broaden their knowledge. That is the reason why this man is very much respected around the world even though people give him hard time here.
America has no idea what it has, if you look at the media outside of this country, mainly Europeans, they worship Obama it seems. In Berlin over 300,000 people came out to hear him speak and he was not even a president at that time. America depends on foreign capital flowing here and that's why its a good thing we have this man in the office as people around the world still trust this country.


I have never known of a shipper refusing to unload someone due to their political party. There surely is more to this story.

They did not refuse me flat out, they told me they were full and they just let me sit there for 3 hours. After calling dispatch it turns out they were not full at all and i unloaded in about 45min. There is nothing more to this story. We have a driver here who moved from Long Island,NY to Louisa,VA and neighbors actually came to his doorsteps asking him if he would sell his house, that they would buy it from him, just because he was a Yankee. Even though the guy was white.

Give me break please, racism still plagues this country and no one call tell me otherwise.



I heard him state that he was Muslim. It wasn't hearsay nor reported by the media. He stated that he was Muslim in a speech that he gave to some leaders while he visited the Middle East. It matters because he lied. I believe that what people say matters.

He never said he was a Muslim, THe speech you are refering too was done in Egypt or Turkey where he acknowledged that he grew up in the Muslim country of Malaysia.
If you wanted to hold all of our leaders accountable for lying, you would have said something about Bush as well as that man misspoke everything that came out of his mouth. Where were your righteous believes then?

GMAN 09-19-2009 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Dejanh (Post 462780)
I am not talking about president, am talking about blacks in general and why they may be suspicious of whites. It does not matter if he or she was a slave or not, others that were like him were treated that way and if he was born in that day and age, he would be working cotton fields as well just because he is black.
Jews are still suspicious of Germans, even though the younger ones were not even born during a holocaust.


Not all blacks who came to this country did so as slaves. It has been about 150 years since any blacks were held as slaves in America. There isn't a single black who is alive today who was a slave in this country. There isn't a single white living to day who was a slave owner. It is time to move on and forget about what may have happened in the past. Jews were slaves in Egypt for hundreds of years. Blacks who were slaves were never subject to the genocide that the Jews experienced in Germany. And you didn't have to be black to work in the cotton fields in the south. I had relatives who raised cotton and picked it themselves. Some did so when I grew up. There were sharecroppers and farmers throughout the south who raised and picked cotton themselves, without the help of slaves. There were also indentured servants in this country during the time of slavery. Those were mostly whites from Europe who basically sold themselves into slavery so that they could come to America. You can't classify all blacks as slaves and all whites as slave owners. This planet has a history of enslaving people. I think the saddest part of the blacks who were slaves is that they were sold into slavery by their own people or other tribes. It wasn't the white man who enslaved them. The Dutch are the ones who brought many of those enslaved to America. Slavery was not a good thing by any stretch of the imagination. But there comes a time when we all need to put the past where it belongs. I could see this issue making more sense if it happened to those who are alive today. This happened about 7 generations ago. It should have no bearing on our lives today. As long as those in government and those with special interests, such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson can use race to divide us, we will never be one people.


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