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I love how the right is turning 75,000 people into 2 million.

It is my understanding that it was the BBC who first reported about 1.7 million people. I think it is the left who would like this to go away and for the numbers to be so low. It is my understanding that this was the largest march they have ever had in Washington. I suppose you can either believe it or not. I don't know. I wasn't there counting people.:roll:

No, it was the London Daily News, and they have since revised their number to everything from 1 million, all the way down to "tens of thousands." The DC Fire Department (which we all know is a big left wing group) estimated the crowd at 60,000-75,000.

No, it was the largest CONSERVATIVE march ever held in Washington.

Why? They voted in Obama in the first place, believing in the lies and the hype. What they got was a self-serving, egotistical SOB who’s more interested in showing up on television and bumping elbows with the elite than running our country in the best interests of the country and her people. The way things are today, NO ONE can say with a straight face that McCain (remember, he was the one running for president, not Palin) would have been worse. No One. And the “told you so’s” have reached deafening levels.

You know, here’s my take on Obama and I’ll bet I speak for the majority. He comes across as a likeable guy, which masks the snake-in-the-grass that he truly is. The personae he portrays is the kind of guy that people would like to be playing cards with or bowling on a league with or attending a ballgame with. However, now that he’s had 9 months to bork the country, people are seeing past the façade with more and more regularity. It’s all about smoke screens and parlor tricks and people are leaving the theatre.

Palin on the other hand? I wouldn’t count her out, either. A sudden resignation from her governorship and 3+ years to assemble a top-notch advisory team, 3+ years to let Obama completely take this country to the bottom, add in a great VP candidate (and there are some good ones out there), and she SHOULD absolutely annihilate Obama in 2012.

That is, of course, if we have a presidential election in 2012. 4 years is a long time to plan and what he’s taken over and now controls in just his first 9 months is nothing short of jaw-dropping. Like him or hate him (I can’t stand him), the man is flat out brilliant when it comes to making things work to his advantage. IF anyone ever manages to stay in power beyond the standard 4 or 8 years, it’ll be him.

And if anyone scoffs and thinks it could never happen here, that’s what the Romans, English, Mongols, Egyptians, Greeks, Germans, etc. et al… thought. The list is endless. In 2009, the world might be more advanced and it might allegedly be more enlightened than it was 500 years ago, but power and money are always in vogue. And that will always trump everything else.

Jes sayin’

Randy Weaver was a wanted man for selling guns illegally. He was cited for it but never appeared on his court date. He was a racist and white supremacist and after the Marshals were sent to gather info on the compound, their video clips showed them walking around with guns, including his wife. He refused to surrender just like David did. If David surrendered none of those people would have been killed. Agents set the house on fire to make them come out and they refused because David told them to stay put. These religious fanatics have no place to be here and make their own laws. This is one country with one central government, its not in Africa or South Asia.


I will vote for Obama again if I see Nazi right spew lies about him being Muslim or Un American...I voted Libertarian for everyone except for the president, and i will do it again.
Video cameras cannot hide her ignorance no matter what angle you position them. She has no place being in the public and i am ashamed that she is even American. She belongs with these nut jobs in that video above.

Conservatives are spewing lies about president Obama on a daily basis. Should I believe that she attended these meetings on Alaskan independence with her husband? If Obama was questioned on this it would have been over.

OH COME ON. They said the same crap about Clinton in 2000, and the same thing about Bush in 2008. Then of course they were saying that Bush was going to change the Constitution so that Arnold could be President too. Do you have any idea what the process is to have the Constitution amended?

Conspiracy theories belong on the X-Files, not in politics.

Nobody will remember Palin in 3 years except the most dedicated of right-wingers. The attention span of the American public is far too short, and a 3 year gap in your employment record is a hard thing to brush aside.

What conservatives don't realize is that they are alienating their own party. There are a LOT of people who identify as conservatives who no longer want anything to do with these people for the reasons that have been spelled out in this thread. Not a very good way to help your numbers. Then the only thing you have to fall back on is the hope that the other side ****s things up THAT badly that there's not a snowball's chance in hell they'll get a reelection.

Personally, I think hoping our government messes things up is pathetic.

To an extent, you’re right. People say the same thing about every president. However, it’s much louder this year and this is the first year I’ve actually thought “hmmm…what are the possibilities?” Clinton wasn’t called Slick Willie for nothing, but he didn’t have the panache that Obama has. And Bush was too much of a big-belt-buckled Texan…that would have never flown.

But Obama? If someone came to you this time last year and said an inexperienced black lawyer would be your next president and before his first year was up, he would control the banking industry and auto industry and would be hell-bent on controlling the health insurance industry, you’d have told me I was full of it. I wouldn’t have believed it, either.

Of course, I never said there wouldn’t be a 2012 election…I said if anyone is capable of moving that behemoth, it would be Obama.

As far as Arnie goes, one never knows. Massachussets just threw out the law when they decided that the governor will appoint a senator to fill Kennedy's seat. It was my understanding that we were a democracy (or republic) and that we the people decided who would represent us. When the people are robbed of their RIGHT to decide who they want to represent them in Congress, what next?

As I recall, the X-Files solved the Kennedy assassination. It was the smoking man.

And that’s my point exactly. 3 years of short attention span theatre and Palin could come back and steamroll Obama. If it is her intention to run for the republican nomination, she’s going about it the right way. As far as an unemployment gap, it never hurt Obama now, did it?

You won’t get any argument from me there. I don’t identify with any party anymore. All of them are hosed and I have little, if any, faith remaining in our elected officials. But the conservatives are not in as bad a shape as the liberal democrats who currently run the show. When Obama won, there was a lot of talk about the republicans having to regroup and get back to their base and it was something that was thought to take a good 8 to 12 years before it would be possible for them to get back into power. But Obama has accelerated that quite a bit. He’s already lost the independents and the disenfranchised republicans that put him into the White House in the first place. A lot of people today think that it doesn’t matter who the Republicans run in 2012, they’re in like Flynn.

Yeah, I agree with you. That’s definitely not how it should be and it’s prevalent on BOTH sides. Liberals (and there are a few on this board), made it clear they wanted to see Bush fail in anything he attempted, as well as wishing the same about McCain and Palin. Today, as Obama fails this country, the other side is clapping their hands and whooping it up. It’s an eye for an eye and will never accomplish anything. Me? Hell, I just keep stocking up on canned goods while waiting for Osama Bin Busy to get his hands on a nuke and really lay pipe. That’d be a catastrophic ‘epic failure’ and you know it’s only a matter of time before it happens. Do people wish for that? Sure they do. And that’s sad.

I came right out when Obama was elected and said I hope he succeeds, even though I am against his policies and his beliefs…I never hope our leadership fails, because if they do, poop rolls downhill and what everyone seems to forget is that all of us are at the bottom of that hill.

Bottom line is, I don’t care who is president as long as it coincides with the majority of my values, my freedoms, and what I expect out of this country’s government. Bush was hit and miss…some of his policies and decisions, I was very happy with. Some left me scratching my head and saying “huh?” But that was something I could deal with…I don’t expect to have a president to cater to my every single whim. I don’t expect him to govern perfectly. Just be closer to me than the other guy and that's how I'll vote. That's they way this country was founded.

Obama? He’s doing nothing to protect us, he’s spending money faster than he can print it, he’s alienating our allies, and he’s putting government in charge of major industries. This is all fact. How can anyone explain that or agree with it?

That I just don’t get.

I disagree.

Sure is. Every President who has run a deficit is guilty of that charge.

I disagree to an extent.

With the help of the Republicans.

No, it's your spin on the facts. Partially true in some cases, but with just enough "the sky is falling" to get the people riled up. Definitely more true than calling Obama a Muslim/Fascist/Communist/Socialist who wasn't born in the US, whose only desire is to destroy the country for his terrorist brothers.

If the stuff Obama was doing was so horrible, the Republicans wouldn't feel a need to make **** up.