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MartenDrvrCA 10-04-2008 10:32 AM

Prisoner drivers
 
So I made a quick pitstop at a truck stop(something I rarely do),none the less I park my truck.I make a phone call and I glance over and see a white volvo.With a seal on the side the says "federal bureau of prisons" or something to that effect.Im thinking wow this must be some type of nice government job,If I see the drver while im there for the next 15 minutes ill ask him.So i get out walk around the front of my truck,and the license plate on the volvo also has government plates.So now im real interested. Some time passes by and two gentlemen wearing matching green pants come out and begin to walk to the truck,they had just dined in the fast food area inside the TS.I begin to talk to them and one of them I spoke to says hes serving a 10 year prison sentence for transporting a couple tons of marijuana in his rig. And that the government had a contract with jbhunt to haul there freight at 600k a year. I guess the prisons came up with the idea to let prisoneres drive for them.SO now they started out with 4 prisioneres who drive 2 trucks as teams from coast to coast.They both were wearing ankle bracelets and say they get paid $125 a month.If all goes well with this pilot program he said they will continue to grow it.

Jumbo 10-04-2008 01:24 PM

$125 a month? How come they make more then we do?

Uturn2001 10-04-2008 03:18 PM

Next up on the government programs.......convicted bank robbers working for Brinks Security as armored car drivers. :rolleyes:

belpre122 10-04-2008 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jumbo (Post 416831)
$125 a month? How come they make more then we do?

Jumbo! This whole prisoner/driver concept puts a whole new spin on the "cage" comment offered some time back by a poster. :D I can't seem to remember who it was though........:p

ben45750 10-05-2008 01:43 AM

Any one interested in buying a bridge?

Part Time Dweller 10-05-2008 01:59 AM

Trucker story
 
It amazes me how gullible truck drivers are. Obviously, the two Government employees were having a laugh at this Marten drivers expense. I suppose next if he comes across an ICE bus with a couple of Mexican in uniform he will believe it when they tell him they are illegals that the government hired to drive the other illegals back to Mexico.

GMAN 10-05-2008 02:09 AM

I think you are pulling our leg. I doubt that the government would take a chance on two prisoners, one of whom was convicted of transporting drugs in a big truck, to drive a truck while they are technically incarcerated. Drug transportation in a commercial vehicle is a big no no. I am skeptical. If they were driving for JB Hunt they would not have a government tag on the truck. It would be a civilian tag registered to JB Hunt. The government nor JB Hunt would take a chance on people with that type of background. The risk would be too great.

HWD 10-05-2008 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by MartenDrvrCA (Post 416808)
So I made a quick pitstop at a truck stop(something I rarely do),none the less I park my truck.I make a phone call and I glance over and see a white volvo.With a seal on the side the says "federal bureau of prisons" or something to that effect.Im thinking wow this must be some type of nice government job,If I see the drver while im there for the next 15 minutes ill ask him.So i get out walk around the front of my truck,and the license plate on the volvo also has government plates.So now im real interested. Some time passes by and two gentlemen wearing matching green pants come out and begin to walk to the truck,they had just dined in the fast food area inside the TS.I begin to talk to them and one of them I spoke to says hes serving a 10 year prison sentence for transporting a couple tons of marijuana in his rig. And that the government had a contract with jbhunt to haul there freight at 600k a year. I guess the prisons came up with the idea to let prisoneres drive for them.SO now they started out with 4 prisioneres who drive 2 trucks as teams from coast to coast.They both were wearing ankle bracelets and say they get paid $125 a month.If all goes well with this pilot program he said they will continue to grow it.


Wait about a month or so and this will be on snopes.com.

ronjon619 10-05-2008 04:39 AM

Doesn't the FBI hire hackers and have them work for the good guys?

MartenDrvrCA 10-05-2008 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller (Post 416903)
It amazes me how gullible truck drivers are. Obviously, the two Government employees were having a laugh at this Marten drivers expense. I suppose next if he comes across an ICE bus with a couple of Mexican in uniform he will believe it when they tell him they are illegals that the government hired to drive the other illegals back to Mexico.



You are an idiot. And no im not pulling anybodies leg.If you want to feel more like an ass you could call up and do some digging and im sure you wil be able to find out from the prison system themselves. Yea you were right they were pulling my leg with there monitoring bracelets they both showed me on there ankles(idiot). Dont insult me again you piece of garbage. I thought it was something interesting and I posted it. If you dont like it you shouldnt of read it. I dont need to make up storiesnor do I drive for marten.

MartenDrvrCA 10-05-2008 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by ronjon619 (Post 416937)
Doesn't the FBI hire hackers and have them work for the good guys?

They sure do.In fact many have been released early in order for them to fully cooperate. Alot of people like this idiot who posted earlier doesnt realize that the governement doesnt care about anybodies public safety hen it comes to cutting there bottom line.

MartenDrvrCA 10-05-2008 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 416905)
I think you are pulling our leg. I doubt that the government would take a chance on two prisoners, one of whom was convicted of transporting drugs in a big truck, to drive a truck while they are technically incarcerated. Drug transportation in a commercial vehicle is a big no no. I am skeptical. If they were driving for JB Hunt they would not have a government tag on the truck. It would be a civilian tag registered to JB Hunt. The government nor JB Hunt would take a chance on people with that type of background. The risk would be too great.

If you READ the post correctly brainiac you would see I posted the government HAD a contract with jb hunt to HAUL their freight. The contract expired and they put 2 and 2 together and realized the benefit of getting their own truck and having there own inmates drive it. none the lessmy mistake for posting anything actual instead of CB hear say.lol. Wont make that mistake again.

Part Time Dweller 10-05-2008 05:32 AM

Wow some flunky Marten dweller called me an idiot, I am so hurt.:D

News flash dweller boy, this isn't the CB, so when you make up trucker stories, you are going to be called out on them. I know on the CB you can get away with it, as the people you are trying to impress fade off into dweller land, never to be heard from again, but here there is accountability.

Ankle bracelets, now that is rich. I am really surprised you didn't come up with embedded micro chips, ankle bracelets are so 90's. :rolleyes: The only thing you left out was the U.S. Marshall's being involved somehow.

MartenDrvrCA 10-05-2008 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller (Post 416947)
Wow some flunky Marten dweller called me an idiot, I am so hurt.:D

News flash dweller boy, this isn't the CB, so when you make up trucker stories, you are going to be called out on them. I know on the CB you can get away with it, as the people you are trying to impress fade off into dweller land, never to be heard from again, but here there is accountability.

Ankle bracelets, now that is rich. I am really surprised you didn't come up with embedded micro chips, ankle bracelets are so 90's. :rolleyes: The only thing you left out was the U.S. Marshall's being involved somehow.

Blah blah blah.At least your name is befitting (dweller),should change it to troll. Yea,and I got your "boy" right here,bitch.Please,who do I need to lie to,some keyboard warrior such as yourself? Thatll be the day.It's just so way out how you get so emotionally involved in my recount of something that happened.Like I said I could give a flyin f if you believe me or not. Apparently this interested you much,call up the federal bureau of prisons and they will tell you,you moron.Because I know there isnt such thing along the lines of a "work release" program that hasnt been instituted by the DOC for over more than a few decades.You are a joke,and an uninformed joke at that.People with non violent crimes are able to work outside of prisons every single day,moron.And thats fact.I guess in your world the "parole system,"probation system","house arrest" and "work release" were all tall tales comprised of bored drivers huh? lol. You are a loser and an idiot who jumps from 0-16 in 3 seconds.But I guess behind your keyboard where its safe,you can do that sort of thing eh?

Part Time Dweller 10-05-2008 06:57 AM

Multi state work release, that is a good one.:D Almost as believable as a convicted drug runner driving a truck around the country. What could go wrong with that? Save it fro the lunch counter Marten boy, I am sure the starry eyed newbies eat it all up. BTW, it is the storytellers job to prove trucker stories true, not the other way around.;)

MartenDrvrCA 10-05-2008 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller (Post 416962)
Multi state work release, that is a good one.:D Almost as believable as a convicted drug runner driving a truck around the country. What could go wrong with that? Save it fro the lunch counter Marten boy, I am sure the starry eyed newbies eat it all up. BTW, it is the storytellers job to prove trucker stories true, not the other way around.;)

Yea,because youre right,after working 65 hours this week all I could think of was coming to CAD and making up a story that meets your approval.And as far as "proving" anything,dont need to prove sh@t. Multi state work crew,funny you mention that,at the chino mens prison,their inmate fire work crews travel outside of california consistently. You need to know your sh@t before you debate kid. None the less,sundays my off day and I bbq today,and unlike yourself I work during the week,so may the good lord bless you and you take care now kid.

Part Time Dweller 10-05-2008 09:38 AM

Sunday is your only day off? Wow, that sucks.

I guess I should change my moniker to Former Part Time Dweller. I gave up the lifestyle 3 years ago, and that was only dwelling Mon- Fri. I was never a super trucker like yourself, I couldn't stand the stench, or the trucker tales.:D

Jumbo 10-05-2008 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by belpre122 (Post 416876)
Jumbo! This whole prisoner/driver concept puts a whole new spin on the "cage" comment offered some time back by a poster. :D I can't seem to remember who it was though........:p

Didn't Tim Wilson have the song 'Peterbilt Prison" It is Cool Hand Luke with exit ramps.

belpre122 10-05-2008 10:40 AM

Yes Yes Yes CAD is back up and running!!!! :D I knew that it wouldn't take long. Some of the new features are really cool!

I believe you MDCA. There is bound to be some independent information out there about this program. We'll find it.

Were they local or OTR drivers?:D:D

BigDiesel 10-05-2008 10:49 AM

were the prisoners hauling ping pong balls ???

ben45750 10-05-2008 11:29 AM

The biggest clue that this is a BS story is that the DOP (DOJ) is moving freight for a private company with government tags with a government owned vehicle. That would never happen!!!! That is opening up a HUGE liability to the US Government that just isn't going to happen. You can google till you turn blue, there is NO pilot program were convicts are being contracted to move freight. Can you imagine if that truck was envolved in a fatality accident? The lawsuit would be in the BILLIONS!!!!!!! I agree our government might do stupid things but they aren't that stupid to allow convicts to haul freight on public highways. Think about it, the government hires private company's to move government owned freight because of the liabilty. It's just stupid that you would believe that story.

MartenDrvrCA 10-05-2008 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by BigDiesel (Post 417001)
were the prisoners hauling ping pong balls ???

No I believe they said cordless extension cords

MartenDrvrCA 10-05-2008 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller (Post 416987)
Sunday is your only day off? Wow, that sucks.

I guess I should change my moniker to Former Part Time Dweller. I gave up the lifestyle 3 years ago, and that was only dwelling Mon- Fri. I was never a super trucker like yourself, I couldn't stand the stench, or the trucker tales.:D

Actually its saturday and sunday :). Sorry some of us arent independently wealthy like yourself and 95% of other drivers who just do it to "travel the country". Isnt golden girls on? Wouldnt want to miss it.

MartenDrvrCA 10-05-2008 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by belpre122 (Post 417000)
Yes Yes Yes CAD is back up and running!!!! :D I knew that it wouldn't take long. Some of the new features are really cool!

I believe you MDCA. There is bound to be some independent information out there about this program. We'll find it.

Were they local or OTR drivers?:D:D

I mean serious,if I thought it would stir up this much controversy I would of taken pics with my cell phone.lol.But ahh,I guess since it never happened that wouldnt of been possible.People act like this is something like totally absurd. Whats the difference from this than a murderer or rapist being paroled every single day in this country.And then going to work for some hole in the wall operation.Some people are trapped in their little bubble where they think all the bad guys are trapped away in their little cell never to see daylight again.Hell,alot of prisons in this country have their own SCHOOLS inside their institution that train inmates as a vocation to drive trucks.Not something so serious though,if you dont believe me then dont. Seems like so many people are so unhappy with their own lives that they need to jump at the first opportunity to get into an argument. Nobody on this board is worth me cooking up some story.Truck drivers are known for their tall tales though,this I cant deny.lol. However what I saw is what I saw,from the truck to the ankle bracelets that looked like those house arrest monitoring bracelets,if you dont believe that then you can shove your tire thumper up your arse(except you part time dweller,wouldnt want you to get any enjoyment). =)

Part Time Dweller 10-05-2008 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by ben45750 (Post 417015)
The biggest clue that this is a BS story is that the DOP (DOJ) is moving freight for a private company with government tags with a government owned vehicle.

You got that right Ben, by Federal law, the truck would have to have an apportioned plate and an IFTA sticker to haul interstate for hire. This story stinks worse than the TV room at the TA on a hot summer day.:D

This Marten driver is a typical BBR, he will never admit he made up a BS story, just keep digging the hole deeper hoping more of his type will jump on board, just like they do on the CB. But as I said before, this isn't the CB, he can't run off into the sunset never to be heard again. Around here, the more he runs his mouth, the more everyone sees through his BS.:rolleyes:

GMAN 10-05-2008 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by MartenDrvrCA (Post 416945)
If you READ the post correctly brainiac you would see I posted the government HAD a contract with jb hunt to HAUL their freight. The contract expired and they put 2 and 2 together and realized the benefit of getting their own truck and having there own inmates drive it. none the lessmy mistake for posting anything actual instead of CB hear say.lol. Wont make that mistake again.

You didn't say anything about JB Hunt's contract expiring in your original post. The way you posted it sounded like they worked for JB Hunt and JB was using a government truck. Perhaps you need to proof read your posts before hitting submit. That way it might be more clear to those of us who read your posts. :confused:

Roadhog 10-05-2008 10:08 PM

Man you gotta love this place!
Where else can you find a bunch of grown men sitting around bitching about useless crap for hours on end. :D

These weekends are KILLING me.
Thank God it's Monday!

Rockjockey 10-06-2008 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by MartenDrvrCA (Post 416808)
They both were wearing ankle bracelets and say they get paid $125 a month.


Just out of idle curiousity, didn't it make you think they might be bsing you when they said this? I imagine you might be able to live on the road for $125 a week, but not for the whole month.

HWD 10-06-2008 11:33 AM

Wow...99% of all trucking companies will not hire a felon, but the government will!

No, seriously, the government will hire anybody. Besides...who's gonna sue the gub'ment and win?

Scoe 10-06-2008 01:10 PM

Since when does the government have a contract to haul freight FOR JB Hunt?

Everything else about the story makes perfect sense and I believe it 100%.

Rev.Vassago 10-06-2008 01:30 PM

This thread wins for the funniest thread of the year. No nominations - it wins hands down.:D

Splitshift 10-07-2008 06:27 AM

Looking for post CDL in jail.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, But was their a long debated topic on someone who got their CDL in prison? And when they got out they could not get a job?

ben45750 10-07-2008 07:31 AM

Yeah, I do remember that. The inmate that hauled currency to all the Federal Banks through a contract with the Treasury Department. I think he did that for like 20 years? Then when he got out of prison Swift, Werner, CR England and a couple other carriers turned him down because he was a felon?

Part Time Dweller 10-07-2008 11:23 AM

Cross country house arrest, that is a new one.:rolleyes: I know a guy that was really on house arrest and had a real ankle bracelet. He was allowed to leave his house at a set time every weekday and had to be back at a set time, period. That is how that works.

There ain't no way a convicted felon , let alone two are going to be allowed to roam around the country together unsupervised. I can see it now, they cut their ankle bracelets off, leave them in the truck and split, never to be heard from again.:eek:

Roadhog 10-07-2008 02:13 PM

How is a felon going to afford smokes, beer, and hookers on only $125/mo.
That seems like cruel and unusual punishment. :mad:

golfhobo 10-07-2008 02:49 PM

You just never know..........

http://www.state.sd.us/News/showDoc.aspx?i=10011

http://www.dcor.state.ga.us/NewsRoom...es/080529.html

thebaldeagle655 10-08-2008 03:42 AM

I would say that part of what Martindvrca was told was probably true, some of it was pulling his leg. I know in Texas, there is a program to train offenders and obtain a CDL upon their release. Following graduation from the program, the offenders are offered a "job" for the remainder of their incarceration driving a truck, delivering supplies from one prison to another. I have seen as many as 6 convicts driving trucks, convoying along with one guard (unarmed) following along to supervise. The offenders involved in this are all incarcerated or non-violent crimes. This is one of the most desirable jobs in the Texas Prison system for offenders as as such, none of them have attempted escape (at least up until now). He probably saw federal prisoners driving commercial vehicles at the truck stop but I doubt that they were in fact delivering public cargo, but in fact were delivering cargo to a federal prison or agency.




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MartenDrvrCA 10-11-2008 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by thebaldeagle (Post 417358)
I would say that part of what Martindvrca was told was probably true, some of it was pulling his leg. I know in Texas, there is a program to train offenders and obtain a CDL upon their release. Following graduation from the program, the offenders are offered a "job" for the remainder of their incarceration driving a truck, delivering supplies from one prison to another. I have seen as many as 6 convicts driving trucks, convoying along with one guard (unarmed) following along to supervise. The offenders involved in this are all incarcerated or non-violent crimes. This is one of the most desirable jobs in the Texas Prison system for offenders as as such, none of them have attempted escape (at least up until now). He probably saw federal prisoners driving commercial vehicles at the truck stop but I doubt that they were in fact delivering public cargo, but in fact were delivering cargo to a federal prison or agency.




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thebaldeagle, formally known as thebaldeagle655 but due to numerous attempts to regain that login, the name has been changed to protect the guilty!

Im sure it was something along these lines. Frankly im tired of talking about it now. Pulling my leg somewhat? Possibly,But i saw what I saw and relayed what they said here. No biggie,didnt mean to make anyone feel the need to step in with their chest out on a internet forum.ha. And for all clarification with the JB HUNT thing for once and for all, He stated JB HUNT HAULED FREIGHT FOR THE DOC,AND ONCE THE CONTRACT WAS OVER THEY DIDNT RENEW IT.Maybe that was clear enough.And no I never stated that they were delivering to anyone outside of the prison system either. I didnt say murderers and rapists were out driving trucks. Thanks baldeagle for your input makes alot of sense Part time dweller,didnt you say you werent even a driver at all? Just a wanna be who couldnt hack it right? lol.

MartenDrvrCA 10-11-2008 04:28 AM

http://www.dcor.state.ga.us/NewsRoom...es/080529.html\

So part time dweller is this article golfhobo posted far off from what I initially stated?.Or did I create that article as well as some grand conspiracy to keep this going? Youre a moron who had no response that even resembled intelligence. Or to the other poster who said there is no "pilot program",didnt they state in that article that there is in fact one? stupid bastard.Before you try to confront somewhat maybe you should research,instead of trying to base your judgement off of your own (limited) knowledge.

MartenDrvrCA 10-11-2008 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Georgia dept of corrections
The participants must have impeccable institutional performance and conduct records, meet all Department of Driving Services requirements for licensing and agree to repay training costs. Graduates of the program will be licensed CDL drivers, and upon transferring to a Transitional Center, will begin employment and repay the cost of training, prior to their eventual release date.

Hmm thats weird,says they are employed and begin to repay back their training cost BEFORE release... But I guess its still all lies.hahahaha.But once again I hacked into the Dept of corrections georgia website and created this information.


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