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RebelDarlin 10-11-2008 04:43 AM

From here:
http://www.projo.com/sharedcontent/d...e.3302abf.html


Mr. Ramsey was still completing his sentence when he earned his commercial driver's license in 2004. In his final months behind bars, he drove a truck for the Texas prison system, delivering produce and other goods to units around the state as a guard followed in a separate vehicle.
Mr. Ramsey said his work as a truck driver since leaving prison has enabled him to become a productive citizen. His record is clean: no accidents or tickets as a commercial truck driver, according to state records.
He lives in Dallas with his wife. He takes pride in his professionalism, and he's devoted to the moving company that hired him when he was released from prison.
"I'm going to bust my tail for these people because they've given me a chance," Mr. Ramsey said, declining to name his employer.


and from here:
http://www.projo.com/sharedcontent/d...s.3319667.html

Over the last 10 years, a Texas Department of Criminal Justice program has trained more than 1,200 inmates to drive big trucks. More than 900 received their commercial driver's licenses while in prison, state records show.

How these drivers have performed on Texas highways is unclear. The state-run school district that trains inmates to be truckers said it doesn't track them once they leave prison. It refused to release inmate names so The News could cross-check them with Texas accident and driver's license records, and it declined a request to let reporters observe prison truck-driver training classes. The newspaper has asked the attorney general for a ruling under the Texas Public Information Act.

dobry4u 10-11-2008 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by MartenDrvrCA (Post 417876)
Hmm thats weird,says they are employed and begin to repay back their training cost BEFORE release... But I guess its still all lies.hahahaha.But once again I hacked into the Dept of corrections georgia website and created this information.


Please hack into the federal reserve and make a rather large transfer to my checking account. Thank you so very much.:D

MartenDrvrCA 10-11-2008 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by RebelDarlin (Post 417878)
From here:
http://www.projo.com/sharedcontent/d...e.3302abf.html


Mr. Ramsey was still completing his sentence when he earned his commercial driver's license in 2004. In his final months behind bars, he drove a truck for the Texas prison system, delivering produce and other goods to units around the state as a guard followed in a separate vehicle.
Mr. Ramsey said his work as a truck driver since leaving prison has enabled him to become a productive citizen. His record is clean: no accidents or tickets as a commercial truck driver, according to state records.
He lives in Dallas with his wife. He takes pride in his professionalism, and he's devoted to the moving company that hired him when he was released from prison.
"I'm going to bust my tail for these people because they've given me a chance," Mr. Ramsey said, declining to name his employer.


and from here:
http://www.projo.com/sharedcontent/d...s.3319667.html

Over the last 10 years, a Texas Department of Criminal Justice program has trained more than 1,200 inmates to drive big trucks. More than 900 received their commercial driver's licenses while in prison, state records show.

How these drivers have performed on Texas highways is unclear. The state-run school district that trains inmates to be truckers said it doesn't track them once they leave prison. It refused to release inmate names so The News could cross-check them with Texas accident and driver's license records, and it declined a request to let reporters observe prison truck-driver training classes. The newspaper has asked the attorney general for a ruling under the Texas Public Information Act.

But rebel darlin? This information couldnt be true? I thought they said I made it all up.lol.God part time dweller and the rest who had all that sh@t to talk must feel real stupid.

golfhobo 10-11-2008 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Roadhog (Post 417279)
How is a felon going to afford smokes, beer, and hookers on only $125/mo. ??
:mad:

The same way us overworked and underpaid "OTR" drivers do it, of course! ;)

belpre122 10-11-2008 11:27 PM

MDCA! Right on! What do they have to say now???

Good work Reb!

Part Time Dweller 10-12-2008 03:59 AM

Big difference between a supervised training program and one where they turn two convicted felons lose to roam the country unsupervised.

I don't recall MartenDwelrCa mentioning one of the drivers being a guard or the invisible guard vehicle following them. Also, no link to the Federal Bureau of Prisons showing this program that allows convicted felons still incarcerated playing BBR.

Nice try, but as usual with a super trucker story, no facts to back it up.

Part Time Dweller 10-12-2008 04:18 AM

Mareten DwelrCA, I took your advice and looked through the entire BOP site and the Occupational Training Programs Directory and found no mention of trucker training or work release programs for truck drivers., as I knew I wouldn't. Not even a mention of truck driving jobs. Strange.:confused:

Federal Bureau of Prisons:
http://www.bop.gov/


Occupational Training Programs Directory:
http://www.bop.gov/inmate_programs/occ_train.pdf

Feel free, now that I provided the links to prove this secret society of prison dwellers exists anywhere but in your mind. I know dwelling must get boring, but really, when you dream up stories, don't expect everyone to ohh and ahh your fantasy. Some actually will call you out on it.:D

MartenDrvrCA 10-12-2008 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by belpre122 (Post 417953)
MDCA! Right on! What do they have to say now???

Good work Reb!

Not much,just back peddling and trying to save face. PTD is just an angry loser who cant admit defeat.hahaha. But that doesnt change the fact that he is a LOSER,in life and on this bored who got proven wrong.

MartenDrvrCA 10-12-2008 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller (Post 417993)
Big difference between a supervised training program and one where they turn two convicted felons lose to roam the country unsupervised.

I don't recall MartenDwelrCa mentioning one of the drivers being a guard or the invisible guard vehicle following them. Also, no link to the Federal Bureau of Prisons showing this program that allows convicted felons still incarcerated playing BBR.

Nice try, but as usual with a super trucker story, no facts to back it up.

Even with the facts in his face he still is trying to hold on.lol. What a pathetic loser. Dont worry kid,maybe next time.

Part Time Dweller 10-12-2008 04:24 AM

Gotta love it, MartenDwelrCa opens mouth, inserts foot.:D

Still waiting for documented proof from the BOP there sport.:eek:

MartenDrvrCA 10-12-2008 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller (Post 417999)
Mareten DwelrCA, I took your advice and looked through the entire BOP site and the Occupational Training Programs Directory and found no mention of trucker training or work release programs for truck drivers., as I knew I wouldn't. Not even a mention of truck driving jobs. Strange.:confused:

Federal Bureau of Prisons:
http://www.bop.gov/


Occupational Training Programs Directory:
http://www.bop.gov/inmate_programs/occ_train.pdf

Feel free, now that I provided the links to prove this secret society of prison dwellers exists anywhere but in your mind. I know dwelling must get boring, but really, when you dream up stories, don't expect everyone to ohh and ahh your fantasy. Some actually will call you out on it.:D

Are you bent that you got proven wrong and were exposed for the loud mouthed baffoon you are? Dont feel sad.Im sure in a few months or so they will forget about this and you can untuck your tail from between your legs. MY advice to you is to lay low for 3-4 weeks then re emerge.hahaha. But true form to a troll as yourself you are trying to save face by completly ignoring multiple links that substantiated what I said.I wouldnt consider you such a total and complete loser had you just accepted whats been posted in LINKS in black and white. But the fact you ignore them is astounding. The fact that you cant be a man and admit defeat and that you were wrong says much about your character and who you are not just as a human being but as a man. With your haste in trying to jump on something I simply posted that I saw,you come out looking like the jack ass you are. As far as "dwelling" goes, youre the one who posts here at different times of the day consistently,which is clearly evident you dont even have employment what so ever. I truly feel sorry for you,youre a know it all,loser,with no life,no job with nothing better to do but try to attack people on a internet forum,but then ultimately get proven wrong. You're so sad. I dont like to spend my weekends having "e-battles" with people. Ill see everyone next weekend,and gary talk to you later dude,try to stay safe in that 1/4 cab.lol =)

Part Time Dweller 10-12-2008 05:58 AM

Still awaiting proof.

The links provided just showed that GA and TX have programs to train inmates to drive a truck. They also state that said inmates are supervised. Oh, and a link to an article that shows an inmate took a truck and drove it through a gate in an escape effort. Nowhere does that say the inmate was involved in any prison training .

Again, you told me in the beginning of this tall tale to go to the BOP site and look it up. I did indeed do that, and there is absolutely nothing to verify your trucker story.

So sorry, Marten DrivelerCA, but there is no proof, and your constant attacks on the messenger instead of the message sums it up, you got caught in your story telling and the harder you try to divert that fact, the more foolish you look.

As far as employment, I am gainfully employed full time. Maybe you are confused by the fact that those of us whio have a regular job with set hours can and do post on a regular basis, unlike yourself who rely on scamming some free wi fi when you get a chance to stop, or when you are sitting in some God forsaken truck stop all weekend taking your 34.

golfhobo 10-12-2008 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller (Post 417244)
Cross country house arrest, that is a new one.:rolleyes: I know a guy that was really on house arrest and had a real ankle bracelet. He was allowed to leave his house at a set time every weekday and had to be back at a set time, period. That is how that works.

There ain't no way a convicted felon , let alone two are going to be allowed to roam around the country together unsupervised. I can see it now, they cut their ankle bracelets off, leave them in the truck and split, never to be heard from again.:eek:

I"m not taking sides in this one whatsoever, but the technology DOES exist for realtime GPS tracking of prisoners on cross-country trips.... complete with tamper proof ankle bracelets.

The drivers MAY have been pulling the O.P's leg, but I don't really see that he would make this story up. I haven't read all of his posts, but it just seems unlikely.

For more info on the increasing probability of such a program, (whether for commercial freight or not,) check these out:

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001977.html

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communi...9259113,00.htm

IF this program, or one like it actually existed, I would assume at LEAST one of the drivers would qualify as a "trustee" prisoner. At any rate, I would think prisoners might be smart enough NOT to walk away from the opportunities a program like this might afford them if they were due to be released soon.

It is also a possibility that they were only registered sex offenders, and would rather tell the story they did rather than to admit the truth. But... as for the government seal? The government does, in fact, have MANY types of vehicles including class 8 tractors in their inventory.

I would assume they would have government plates and be exempt from IFTA and possibly other requirements.

Part Time Dweller 10-12-2008 08:23 AM

That sure is a lot of IF's isn't it?:p

Rockjockey 10-13-2008 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by MartenDrvrCA (Post 416808)
SO now they started out with 4 prisioneres who drive 2 trucks as teams from coast to coast.They both were wearing ankle bracelets and say they get paid $125 a month.If all goes well with this pilot program he said they will continue to grow it.


I'm, sorry, but I read all the links and see nothing that backs up this statement made by the op.


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