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I didn't say the ban would affect shallow water drilling you tart, try reading it again.
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Wow... I can't believe you are (still) resorting to calling me names, even after I've "befriended you" and have tried my best to show that I still respect your opinions and enjoy our debates. I don't have to read anything again. I got YOUR drift the FIRST time. YOU are the one with the comprehension problem here.
The "ban" didn't affect shallow water drilling/producing because we have the ability to deal with any contingency in shallow waters. Not in deep water. "HIS ARGUMENT" didn't address shallow water drilling, so NO "incident" in shallow water would "blow his argument" out of the water! Just YOURS!
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I said it blew up Obama's whole grounds for not allowing deep water drilling.
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No, it didn't. You were WRONG. An "unfinished" drilling operation in DEEP WATER, is still dependent on the possible need for a blow-out preventor to WORK. And, if it doesn't? We don't have the ability to respond successfully at that depth!
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His team claimed shallow water drilling was much safer and essentially nothing could go wrong like BP's.
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They never said NOTHING could go wrong. They said that we had the ability to respond in shallow water, so the DANGER was much less. The BP "spill" happened as the well was being "brought in." That is when a BLOWOUT can happen. The blowout preventor failed (due to cost cutting and possibly criminal neglect.) We soon found out that neither the gov't NOR the industry was prepared to handle such a catastrophe.
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This whole situation proved that it can happen no matter where it is as it was nearly the same thing that happened to BP minus the oil spill.
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NOT EVEN CLOSE! And perhaps, you could explain just WHY there was no oil spill?
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If this had been an exploratory drilling platform who's to say we wouldn't have another oil spill on our hands to clean up or did you miss that little tidbit?
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Would you have preferred that he included shallow water "exploratory" wells in his moratorium? But, it WASN'T....was it? Nor was the last little leak. That makes the BP disaster just one in 3 "accidents" so far since then. And the ONLY deepwater one.... which we couldn't control. Ah, heck.... you'll NEVER understand the difference! :roll:
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Doesn't matter that this was an established platform that was pumping instead of drilling, it could have just as easily been drilling at the time.
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Yes, it DOES matter! And, NO... it COULDN'T be drilling at the same time it is producing! First, you DRILL.... THEN, you produce. Got it?
Maybe, you can understand THIS little backwoods analogy: A blue tick hound PUPPY can spring a leak all over your living room. But, a MATURE dog will ask to go outside to do his business! HE can be "trusted." The moratorium would be for puppies who live 1 mile beneath the water's surface! :hellno:
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The only reason no spill happened was because this company had not overrode systems(that they know of currently) and had blowout preventers that worked.
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Totally incorrect.
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It doesn't mean that shallow water is safer than deep water as Obama claimed.
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Yes, it does.
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It just means it's an easier fix when something goes wrong.
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For that EXACT reason... which is why the moratorium specifically excluded the "safer" practice of shallow water drilling and producing wells.
The LACK of a disaster, and the ability to respond if this case had been worse, is EXACTLY why "His whole argument" has proved to hold water.
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The response was quick on the BP disaster also, [if you say so] the difference was that oil spilled when the well head was broken from the rig toppling into the sea. Unfortunately the tried and true methods of shallow water did not work on deep water.
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Which is EXACTLY why the moratorium only affected deep water wells IN THE DRILLING STAGE.
Apparently, you STILL don't understand the function of a blow out preventor, and I'm not sure you understand just WHERE the "well head" IS!
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I would not go around darn near making a guarantee that a disaster like BP's won't happen again anytime soon. They still have not determined why this platform suddenly blew up.
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Which is the REASON for the moratorium! I can pretty much guarantee that such a disaster won't happen again as long as the moratorium stands. And, BTW... they DO have a pretty good idea what went wrong.
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Are you saying a disaster like BP's happening again anytime soon in US waters or anywhere in the world? I hope you mean within US waters and not anywhere in the world, some countries don't give a rat's ***** about safety measures.
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I DO mean in American waters (thanks to the moratorium.) And, in THIS case... BP didn't seem to give a hoot about safety measures, either! You ARE aware, aren't you, that such spills HAVE happened in other parts of the world? Obama is ONLY responsible for protecting OUR coastline/waters!
Look... this comes down (ONCE AGAIN) to you trying to "gotcha" Obama for his policies and actions as POTUS. And, as always, you are not fully informed, and CERTAINLY "biased."
I suppose that if some radical element of Al Qaida happened to blow up another major tower in this country, you would say THAT was a failure of Obama's security policy.... even though most of it is a continuation of Bush policy... and somehow, you would FORGET that 9/11 happened under DUBYA'S watch, with HIS security policy in place. :hellno::roll:
It is clear to me that you don't understand the DEFINITIONS involved in the moratorium policy. Equally, I find you challenged in areas of rational calculus. LOGIC has long since went out the window!
IF you would refrain from calling me NAMES (tart, loser, etc.,) we MIGHT could continue an intellectual discussion... because I DO find you inbued with the basic intellectual abilities.
Look... plain and simple.... the moratorium had NO EFFECT on the rig that had this accident. This accident had NO RELATION to the moratorium. Your argument would ONLY hold water IF Obama's moratorium was a BLANKET one that covered ALL oil producing/drilling activities in the gulf. But, it DID NOT!
He shut down the EXPLORATORY drilling of wells, IN DEEP WATER, that still HAD the possibility of experiencing this SAME disaster due to faulty equipment or safety procedures!
YOU are the one that expects him to be some kind of Messiah (like Twilight says) that has to ALWAYS be PERFECT. To ME... he's just a democratic president that hopefully can move us away from the environmental (and financial) destruction that big business has set their minds on... and perhaps, away from world wars over IGNORANCE.
YOU jump at every chance to "prove" he's not the Messiah. And
"I" never said he WAS!
Oil platform explodes in the Gulf
