Actually, I had already "shown up" and contributed to the discussion. It went south beginning with the 3rd paragraph of YOUR post at 5:32 a.m. which, incidentally, was the one I asked for proof of:

Up until then, even YOU were adding to the discussion. Shortly after that, GMAN started slamming Dems again.

I don't have a problem with you per se. I realize we all have opinions and that MOST on this board blame Obama and the Dems for everything. But, there are threads for that. THIS is one of the rare ones that didn't start out, at least, to have a political bent. And the info is good for anyone interested.

 

No problem Timberwolf. It happens. I haven't yet heard back from them. I should call them this week actually. At this point I'm moving forward with the mortgage thing but if Florida Rock called I'd have to seriously consider taking a job there. It would be a hard choice. I'll keep ya posted though. Do you run over here in Tampa much? Maybe grabbing a cup of coffee may interest you some time? Let me know.

 

For the most part I pull out of Orlando, However I pull out of the Port of Tampa when it is needed, in fact just two weeks ago I found myself dropping at the Gunn hiway Murphy station that I loaded at Hookers Point in the port.. Talk about an interesting place after dark, All sorts of creepy sounds out there late at night..
A cup of coffee sounds good I have yet to meet anyone in person on this board, it would be nice to be able to put a personality with the post.

Good Luck talk to you soon..


Timberwolf

 

Justruckin said:

Well, it might be IF it were or possibly COULD be true, but only a fool would believe such a claim. 1/3rd of a family's income taxed for healthcare alone? Yeah.... right.

Maybe not.... but at least I DO have a job! If I lived in MI, I might heed your advice. However, since I don't have a problem getting or keeping a job down here, I'm more concerned with taking advantage of the historicaly low interest rates, depressed asking prices, tax incentives and the advice of people who know what they are talking about.

But.....thanks for playing. :rofl:

 

It is good advice to pay down your debt or get it completely paid off as quickly as possible, Luzon. You can get along with much less money when you don't have any bills. I think most financial advisor's recommend at least 6 months of living expenses for an emergency fund.

 

Sorry, golfhobo, but it is hard to not mention the democrats when you are talking about a government check given by the democrats that is supposed to stimulate real estate sales. If you are that disturbed about any discussion of democrats then I will try to restrain myself for this discussion.

 

Nice try GMAN, but the bill was originally passed in 2008, at $7500 by your friend DUBYA!! :lol2:

However, I DO see how the topic of this thread could be considered "political." But, not everything has to be sorted out and blame assigned. And if you must..... you MIGHT get a new SCHTICK! You're repeating the same diatribe over and over and over.... on nearly every thread that can possibly justify a political opinion.

 

I didn't think you could go very long without mentioning Bush. :clap: It wasn't Bush who passed the bill. It was a democratically controlled congress. It is congress who controls the purse strings, no matter who is in office. A president cannot pass legislation. That is the job of congress. That is why they are called the legislative branch of government.

By the way, we used to have FHA loans that a borrower could get into for I believe 3%. It seems to me that 3% should not be too much for a new potential homeowner to come up with to buy a home. It seems that the down payment is where a lot of potential homeowners have a problem. Payments can sometimes be less than paying rent.

 

Where were you then, when republican held congress and house, doubled national debt from 5 to 10 trillion.
Where were you when they passed Patriot Act or have you supported both bills?

 

I thought that the republicans were spineless wimps when they held power in congress. That is the reason they lost their majority. They became the party of tax and spend instead of being fiscally responsible. They gave away their principles. I never felt we needed the Patriot Act and spoke out accordingly. A also felt that we didn't need to add another bureaucracy with the Homeland Security Agency. It reminds me too much of some of the other countries such as Germany prior to WWII with their SS. I think the FBI and other agencies have done a pretty good job up until now.

The reasoning some gave for the Homeland Security Agency and the Patriot Act was for national security. Rather than starting another agency it would have been better to have taken care of any holes in security from other agencies. The bigger the government or company the more difficult it becomes to manage. Efficiency goes out the window.

The Patriot Act does take away some of our rights. There is no such thing as 100% security. The CIA, FBI and other intelligence agencies have kept this country safe for many years. Adding another agency because of one incident was reactive. It was put in place much too quickly and with little debate.

I believe that we are living in very dangerous times. Much of the dangers we face are coming from our own government. They keep chipping away at our freedoms. Some people will wake up one day and wonder how we lost our freedom. I don't think that it is too late to turn things around, but the more our people rely on a government handout the fewer freedoms we will have. The republicans have slowed some of this spending, but my guess is that at the end of the day they will go along with another spending bill for health care.

We are not free if we have huge debt. We are not free if we give most of our hard earned money up for taxes. We are already spending about 60% of our wages on taxes of some form. When will taxes be high enough? These people have no idea what this health care bill will actually cost. The OMB has looked at it and stated that the bill will cost considerably more than the democrats are saying. In truth, no one really knows the cost. It depends on how much people use it. The more taxes we pay the less expendable income we will have to spend on things which will stimulate our economy. I think a major problem with our elected representatives is that they don't understand basic economics or Accounting.