Would they ban air conditioning in their offices??
#21
11-20-2009, 05:49 AM
The government would make better use of our tax resources if they tried to pursuade people to want more efficient appliances rather than using a sledge hammer to force people to buy them. Companies respond to consumer demands. If people demanded more efficient appliances these companies would make them.
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#23
11-20-2009, 11:46 AM
I am not sure that NASA would have come into being without the Soviet Union. It was the competition between our two nations for space superiority that helped to push our space program along. There was also the potential benefits to private enterprise which helped lend support. There were benefits to the research performed by NASA and those involved in the program. Were it not for our space program we might not have microwave ovens and digital readouts, among other things. We had a young president who inspired this nation to explore space. It was never mandated by congress nor were we threatened with jail if we didn't go along with space exploration. It is something we wanted to do as a nation.
#24
11-20-2009, 12:13 PM
I also know a woman that MUST HAVE DRY AIR to breath, or she has difficulty breathing. Shut the vehicle off, open the windows, and I've seen her in some pretty serious distress. Close the windows, turn on the air-conditioner and she's fine. Down to 30 degrees outside, and she's got the AC on. I know about her because I came up on her when her timing belt went out. She looked like she was starting to turn blue. Put her into a car with the AC working and she came out of it. (And, I'm married to one that is not quite that bad off.) What does the law say about that? Shut the truck off and kill the driver??? Not all companies are putting in APUs, and does the driver have to put out the expense for a unit on his truck if the company does not? Company equipment, and not the driver's responsibility. Sorry, but the law of survival is a bit older than the laws they're putting through now.
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#25
11-20-2009, 01:52 PM
This type of legislation is nothing but a means to raise tax revenue. As windwalker noted there are many reasons why some people idle their trucks. While I prefer not sitting next to a truck that is idling when the weather is temperate, I don't think it is the place of the government to make it a criminal offense for people to idle their truck.
#26
11-20-2009, 03:31 PM
here is the problem with that. Everyone has different tolerances to hot and cold. Right now I am generaly comfortable between 60 and 80 but there was a time if it got below 75 I froze my butt off. On another side, might be a select few but 75 it to hot for some. I can't be the judge of whats hot or cold to others.
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#27
11-21-2009, 01:16 AM
Ok, but you get my drift?
* Alcohol-related car crashes kill someone every 30 minutes and injure someone every two minutes. * In the United States, drunk driving is the leading criminal cause of death. * More than 17,000 people are the victims of drunk driving accidents every year. * Approximately 40% of all motor-vehicle fatalities are alcohol-related. * Frequent drunk drivers are responsible for almost 60% of alcohol-related fatalities. * In 2007, drivers between the ages of 16-20 were involved in 1,719 drunk driving accidents. * 38% of all Christmas-time car accident deaths and 54 % of all New Year's car accident deaths are alcohol-related. * Approximately 17% of drunk drivers injured in car accidents are charged and convicted, 11% are charged and not convicted, and 72% are never charged. * Drunk driving accidents cost the public around $114.3 billion a year. * About one-third of people arrested for drunk driving are repeat offenders. * Drivers with a BAC of .08 or higher who are involved in fatal crashes are eight times more likely to have a prior DUI conviction than drivers who consumed no alcohol. If people talk junk about marijuana getting legalized, then lets talk about all other forms of drugs that are legal...
#28
11-21-2009, 01:34 AM
I am not sure that NASA would have come into being without the Soviet Union. It was the competition between our two nations for space superiority that helped to push our space program along. There was also the potential benefits to private enterprise which helped lend support. There were benefits to the research performed by NASA and those involved in the program. Were it not for our space program we might not have microwave ovens and digital readouts, among other things. We had a young president who inspired this nation to explore space. It was never mandated by congress nor were we threatened with jail if we didn't go along with space exploration. It is something we wanted to do as a nation.
geeshock..,,here is the problem with that. Everyone has different tolerances to hot and cold'' Thats a pure rubbish....I have seen trucks running AC at 60. Companies are loosing billions of dollars due to drivers idling, we import more oil etc...Tolerances are the same, i dont care what anyone says. People idle because they are use to. They dont realize that we have to change and start saving not only our money, but money from the other people as well. If police didn't write tickets to the trucks running left lane in Atlanta, big riggers would run it and made the congestion much worse...I just came back from NY, and there were many trucks running no truck lane, way below speed limit in Harrisburg,PA when they shouldn't be. Government needs to persuade the public to do whats right, either by asking them, or by making a law against it and then enforcing it.
#29
11-21-2009, 02:25 AM
NASA came about from the government, not the opinion of American public, that was my point. Majority of people are stuck in their old ways and would never change anything even though it is needed if we want to stay competitive. There are many who want us out of the UN but what they don't for example know, is that we are very dependent on the other nations when it comes to our borrowing needs. This country would never be what it is if it wasn't for the help we receive from abroad. Last September everything would have collapsed if foreign capital was not there. But for a regular Joe here, UN is bad, even though he has a job because of it.
There is nothing wrong with many of the old ways. We should get out of the UN. Dues are based upon GNP as I recall. That means that the U.S. pays more for dues than any other nation, yet we don't have more of a voice than the least of the member nations. We don't need to be borrowing money from ANY other nation. In fact, we should be a debt free nation. If we cannot afford to fund a program with existing dollars then it doesn't get funded. The only reason our government borrows money is because they spend more than they receive in tax dollars. That means that the government is doing too much. We should not need to borrow money and should be independent of any other nation. We should and could be energy dependent. We should be able to feed our own people without importing food from other nations. We should be able to produce everything we use in this country. If we began manufacturing more of what we use then we would not need to borrow so much money. If we produced more of what we used then there would be more taxes that could be paid from more sources (more jobs) and we would need less government. Until about the middle of the last century we produced nearly everything we used. We currently import much of what we use. Much of this comes from anti American nations such as China, Saudi Arabia, etc., When we are reliant on other nations it affects our foreign policy which may not be in the best interest of this nation. I still wonder what Obama gave China for them buying more of our paper. If our government would only cut their wasteful spending habits then we would not need to borrow money. It is as much a matter of national security as anything else. geeshock..,,here is the problem with that. Everyone has different tolerances to hot and cold'' Thats a pure rubbish....I have seen trucks running AC at 60. Companies are loosing billions of dollars due to drivers idling, we import more oil etc...Tolerances are the same, i don't care what anyone says. People idle because they are use to. They don't realize that we have to change and start saving not only our money, but money from the other people as well. Some people do idle no matter what the temperature. I agree that it is usually not necessary for some to idle. On the other hand, there are legitimate reasons for doing so. My wife and I have different tolerances to hot and cold. Ironically, it is opposite to the way it was when we were first married. My wife has some serious health issues. When she is with me I need to idle much more than when I am alone. If police didn't write tickets to the trucks running left lane in Atlanta, big riggers would run it and made the congestion much worse...I just came back from NY, and there were many trucks running no truck lane, way below speed limit in Harrisburg,PA when they shouldn't be. Government needs to persuade the public to do whats right, either by asking them, or by making a law against it and then enforcing it. The truth of the matter is that writing tickets to truckers is easy money for cities and states. They understand that we will more often than not pay the fine rather than fighting. Most of us will not fight a ticket due to the cost of being away from work and perhaps going hundreds of miles out of our way to fight it. Some years ago I received a ticket that I felt wasn't justified. I fought it and mostly won my case. I did have to pay a fine. That is all they really wanted. My money. It cost me over $1,100 in out of pocket expenses and lost revenue to fight that ticket, but it should never have been written. The charge was merely the hammer to force me to pay them money. Unfortunately, that is the way many of our government agencies work these days. I believe live and let live. I don't get involved in other's business and I don't want them to be involved in mine. I don't want the government to regulate every aspect of my business. I don't want the government to tell me that unless I buy their insurance they will put me in jail. I don't want the government to tell me that I can't idle my truck so that I can get my rest that is regulated by the government. (You see the irony in these anti idling laws?) We are told that we must sleep a certain number of hours, yet we are told by some states that we cannot idle to be comfortable so that we can be compliant with the federal hos rules. It isn't about anything but raising revenue. The only thing our government is constitutionally charged with doing is protecting out sovereignty. Anything else is not constitutional and the government has no business infringing on my rights to do what I wish. |
