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03-17-2009, 01:52 AM
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You have to do what you have to protect your life, it is outrageous how many people are murdered across america; daily. Three cheers for the DA. his father must have driven trucks, with the economy in the shape it's in people are becomung desperate, along with the nuts that are already here. I'll stop as I started, you do what you have to.
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03-17-2009, 01:54 AM
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The driver could very well face a civil suit, but considering the would-be robber's lengthy criminal history, it would be a tough, if not impossible, sale to get a jury (or judge) to convict the driver of any wrong-doing. Especially in Knox County.
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One can only hope! I am all for TORT reform! If it weren't for the jury nullification that let O.J. Simpson off, I'd be against ANY civil lawsuits where no criminal charges were proved! Yet, they continue to clog our courtrooms!
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One can only hope! I am all for TORT reform! If it weren't for the jury nullification that let O.J. Simpson off, I'd be against ANY civil lawsuits where no criminal charges were proved! Yet, they continue to clog our courtrooms!
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Tell me about it! I live in one of the most litigious, judicial hellhole counties in the nation. It used to be ranked no. 1 for medical malpractice and other such suits but has fallen to around no. 4 or 5 in recent years. Just in case anyone is wondering it is St. Clair county IL.
To get any decent medical care I must drive at least 30 minutes over to the St. Louis area.
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Come on down to Oklahoma, we have a "Make my day" law. If you feel your life is threatened you can shoot. It has lowered crime.
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03-17-2009, 03:51 AM
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I would like to think that the driver had a RIGHT to carry a gun in his truck, and I would like to INSIST that it be "registered." That way, there will be no problems for HIM!
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I see no good reason why we need to register guns. I understand what you are saying, golfhobo, but we didn't need to register guns when I grew up. Nor did we have to wait for a background check before we purchased a gun. And we never had people going out and committing mass murder. We also never had children killing other children. Parents set parameters for their children and the children abided by the rules. (Well, mostly).
If this had happened in New York or Massachusetts this driver would face a long list of felony charges including murder. I am very pleased that the DA in Tennessee had enough common sense as to let this drop. The perpetrator got what he deserved. If more people carried weapons to protect themselves we would have fewer assaults and deaths of victims.
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03-17-2009, 01:25 PM
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The driver could very well face a civil suit, but considering the would-be robber's lengthy criminal history, it would be a tough, if not impossible, sale to get a jury (or judge) to convict the driver of any wrong-doing. Especially in Knox County.
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I would think that the estate of the "victim (gag)" would more likely sue the trucking company as well as the driver in a civil suit. The juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze to go after an out of state driver alone in a civil matter.
I am surprised that no criminal matter is coming about regarding the driver having a weapon in their possession in a commercial vehicle. It gives a bit more credence to the argument that perhaps there isn't a federal law prohibiting a fire arm in a commercial vehicle (let's assume that the gun is registered for argument sake). As noted by a prior poster, the driver might still be terminated if carrying is against company policy.
Excellent article! :thumbsup:
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What's the old saying?"I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6"........
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Lady and gentlemen --
The FMCSRs are silent on the issue of guns in trucks. There is no FMCSR that prohibits (or allows) a firearm in a commercial vehicle. That means you do not violate the FMCSRs if you carry and drive. We are left with our national patchwork of state/county/parish/city gun laws, and the discretion (and good sense--or lack of it) of our legal system, and your company's policies about guns n' trucks. So if you want to talk about firearms--long, short, scattergun, whatever--in trucks, please leave the FMCSRs out of it.
I carried for awhile when I drove, so you know my position on the subject. I knew that if my company somehow found out, that they'd tear up my contract. I knew better than to take loads into Canada while I had a pistol and ammunition with me. I've never understood why anyone's right to defend themselves is even questioned.
As for Mr. Hodges (sp?): one less cockroach. He wasn't missed and I doubt he will be.
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