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Old 11-10-2008, 11:13 AM
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Everyone knows how I feel about Obama. I did not vote for him. I disagree with his proposals. I do not like who he associates himself with. But, with that said, the man has not taken office yet. He has neither signed one piece of legislation into law, nor signed one executive order. The people made their choice. Hell, my state went blue for the first time since 1964.

It has always been my position that we show solidarity with our President. Especially in these times, our country needs to be united more than ever. We have many enemies in the world and dissention among the people can be conceived as weakness.

Saying that, it is also our reesponsibility to speak out when any elected official or caucus of elected officials has an agenda that is contrary to the Constitution of the Uniited States of America. That is what makes our country great.
 
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
If you didn't vote, you have no right to complain.
If you are talking publicly, you are wrong. No where does it state that a person must vote to be able to use his/her freedom of speech.

If you are talking on this board, unless you purchased this website, I find it hard to believe that you can go around making up the rules as you go.

If neither above apply then I guess you are just talking (typing) to hear yourself talk (see yourself type). Everyone went through the same process to be a member of this site that you did and have the same "right" to post their opinion as you do wether you like it or not.

It is amazing the things some will find to spend two pages arguing about. Lapel pin/no lapel pin, where someones hand was or was not at an inopportune time during a photo shoot (does it suprise anyone that you can find these photos for both sides but pictures showing the contrary are few and far between, it is the media pushing peoples buttons).

As far as voting for him, no I didn't. This changing of words or stances (some call it flip flopping) is something he demenstrated all through the campaign. First we would REQUIRE ALL businessses to pay more taxes and REQUIRE ALL businesses to provide a certain type of health care policy then along came "Joe the Plumber". Conveniently it got changed to being businesses making over $250,000 a year. Doesn't sound like an even palying field to me. Fine anyone without insurance on themselves or their children, at the last debate when asked how much the fine would be to people who couldn't afford insurance the new stance was "there will be no fines". This is just a couple of the many "changes" in policy that I noticed through out that turned me away. Start with required until you notice a flaw or public uprising then change it to encouraged, kind of convenient. I didn't use race, religious beliefs or some silly media made up unpatriotic stance to decide, I decided on character and experience. My opinion was he was lacking some in both.

Golfhobo, I can understand your conviction but come on, require military service and community service? First off, that takes the pride out of serving in either and second it doesn't sound like Democracy to me. I can think of a few other names but not Democracy. If the Military is stretched thin you might want to remember who cut the Military by 25% (hint: he campaigned for Obama after his wife was beat in the primaries). Right now the number of enlistments are running normal as they have been for the last few years and I would guess if unemployment keeps going up there may be more trying to enlist in the near future, that is just a guess though, not cold hard facts.

As far as posters causing a divide in this country, you are giving way too much to posters on this board. This country was divided long before this little coner of the internet came along. Had the election gone the other way, it would have been the same result, just the ones crying divided would be crying unfair, happens every time, go figure. All in all everyone has their own opinion and can choose based on whatever criteria they want even if it is to vote against someone for not wearing a lapel pin or even not vote because they don't like any of the choices, that is true Democracy and freedom.
 
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:29 AM
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Hmmmm... Why can't one find pride in doing "required" community service or serving their country? I am "required" to work to put food on my family's table and clothes on their back, but I find pride in my work. I find no greater "pride" than helping others and it is "required" of me because it is of my nature to feel it my duty to help my fellow man/woman.
 
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by slim chance
If you are talking publicly, you are wrong. No where does it state that a person must vote to be able to use his/her freedom of speech.

If you are talking on this board, unless you purchased this website, I find it hard to believe that you can go around making up the rules as you go.

If neither above apply then I guess you are just talking (typing) to hear yourself talk (see yourself type). Everyone went through the same process to be a member of this site that you did and have the same "right" to post their opinion as you do wether you like it or not.
Guess what? You're absolutely right!:clap:


And I have just as much of a right to take what some conspiracy theorist says (types) with a grain of salt based upon that same "right".

And in my opinion (since I have the "right" to post it), someone who chose not to vote has no right to whine about who got elected, and their rantings and ravings will be treated by me with that in mind. And since I have that "right", I'm going to make it known by posting it.


So there.:thumbsup:
 
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Originally Posted by dobry4u
I am "required" to work to put food on my family's table and clothes on their back, but I find pride in my work. I find no greater "pride" than helping others and it is "required" of me because it is of my nature to feel it my duty to help my fellow man/woman.
So which law actually "requires" you to do this? I guess that law could put an end to all the suposed dead beat Dad problem. Whe you find that law, good luck, please post a link here. I think you are confusing required with feeling obligated but who knows.
 
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
And in my opinion (since I have the "right" to post it), someone who chose not to vote has no right to whine about who got elected, and their rantings and ravings will be treated by me with that in mind. And since I have that "right", I'm going to make it known by posting it.
Well in your original post you posted "If you didn't vote, you have no right to complain." That was your entire post so I guess it would be easy for someone to miss your use of opinion in that statement since it wasn't there, go figure.
 
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by slim chance
So which law actually "requires" you to do this? I guess that law could put an end to all the suposed dead beat Dad problem. Whe you find that law, good luck, please post a link here. I think you are confusing required with feeling obligated but who knows.
The laws of material instincts and survival. I have to work to feed and house my children. I don't know how clearer I can be. :hellno:

I have no clue what the mention of "dead beat Dad problem" is in reference.
 
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Originally Posted by dobry4u
Hmmmm... Why can't one find pride in doing "required" community service or serving their country? I am "required" to work to put food on my family's table and clothes on their back, but I find pride in my work. I find no greater "pride" than helping others and it is "required" of me because it is of my nature to feel it my duty to help my fellow man/woman.


I think because it's a persons choice to do what work they want ...and the president/government has no right to make it law to have to do cherity work ...When I see Obama his wife and offspring digging ditches and cleaning gutters I might think him not full of FECO-MATTER.
 
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Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
I think because it's a persons choice to do what work they want ...and the president/government has no right to make it law to have to do cherity work ...When I see Obama his wife and offspring digging ditches and cleaning gutters I might think him not full of FECO-MATTER.

Not so... if I was to do what I want for work... I would be the "towel hander-outer" in the New England Patriot's locker room.:lol:
 
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Originally Posted by slim chance
Well in your original post you posted "If you didn't vote, you have no right to complain." That was your entire post so I guess it would be easy for someone to miss your use of opinion in that statement since it wasn't there, go figure.
I'm certainly not posting other people's opinions......:roll:
 

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