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Old 11-06-2008, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
To be honest, I have come to the conclusion that the politicians are no longer solely responsible for the division of this country.

The internet age has brought with it the dawn of a new form of politics. It is giving a much louder voice to people who would have never had a voice before, or whose voice would have been ignored. While having a voice is always, without exception, a good thing, the fact that you have the right to speak does not mean you necessarily SHOULD be heard. And the loudest of the voices are the ones trying to split this country in half. The Michael Moore's, the Rush Limbaugh's, the Moveon dot org's: they are the ones I feel are much more responsible for the split we now see, and the politicians, in their efforts to hold on to their power, simply mimic those loudest voices.

It is certainly the dawn of a new age. Whether it will be one that will continue to give a voice to all Americans (and not just the loudest) remains to be seen.
Someone once said:
"As goes the leadership, so goes the country."

liberals are the Original "Hate America" crowd.
They reached a fever pitch, when W was elected, and they have sustained that fever pitch.

Rush is on the right, and right on.
He uses people's own words, to illustrate the truth.

You need to listen to him for 6 weeks, to make an informed opinion. Most of his detractors have never heard much of anything he has said, unless it was something taking out of context, and twisted.

This is a tactic that has been perfected - by liberals.

Throughout this campaign, the liberals have continued to pursue their objectives, with what ever means available.

To them, the ends justifies the means.

That is a sharp contrast to the gentleman's approach, taken by most republicans. McCain is a superb example, as he had tons of ammo, which he refused to use.

The republican's major failure, is a failure to fight the liberals.
 
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Old 11-06-2008, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2
Someone once said:
"As goes the leadership, so goes the country."

liberals are the Original "Hate America" crowd.
They reached a fever pitch, when W was elected, and they have sustained that fever pitch.

Rush is on the right, and right on.
He uses people's own words, to illustrate the truth.

You need to listen to him for 6 weeks, to make an informed opinion. Most of his detractors have never heard much of anything he has said, unless it was something taking out of context, and twisted.

This is a tactic that has been perfected - by liberals.

Throughout this campaign, the liberals have continued to pursue their objectives, with what ever means available.

To them, the ends justifies the means.

That is a sharp contrast to the gentleman's approach, taken by most republicans. McCain is a superb example, as he had tons of ammo, which he refused to use.

The republican's major failure, is a failure to fight the liberals.

The failure of the Rebulican party, was when they failed to "not fight" with themselves. Look at them (McCains advisors) today. Whom are they laying the election loss on? Sarah Palin. She was involved for what? 85 days...and the election loss was her fault? And her husband's?

President Bush has done plenty of things wrong. The "People" have simply failed to remember that it did take more than "just" the President, to make the things that have gone wrong, bad. It took both Democrat and Republican members of Congress to look the other way, which is exactly what they have done.
The "People" also failed. How many have written to their representatives, and expressed their concerns about the economy, the financial failure, the manner in which both wars have been handled?

For weeks, I have heard how our problems today, are the fault of Bill Clinton. He has been retired for 8 years...yet "He" is responsible for the failure of the Banks? I seriously doubt it...but who am I?

Obama has gained quite a bit of respect in my eyes, by chosing Warren Buffett as one of his Economic Advisors, as he (Obama) begins putting together his administration. I don't think there is another person better qualified to give economic advise to a President-elect, than Warren Buffett.


Was Obama my choice for President...no. However...my choice wasn't on the ballot.

The only problem I have with President Bush, is the failure to deliver Osama Bin Laden's head to the WTC site, on a silver platter.
The rest of America's problems lay with Congress and "We the People" for our failure to watch our employees more closely. How many "Boobs" are re-elected year after year, always providing the same results? issedoff:


And as far as "2's" suggestion that listening to Rush Limbaugh, is a good learning experience, I don't listen to "Druggie's" and that is all he is. Art Bell retired. :clap: At least I could laugh at Art. :thumbsup:
 
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Old 11-06-2008, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowman7
I don't follow alot of politics but you are right about the internet dividing people. It happens here and other forums I follow like sports. People will say the meanest things behind the annonymity of a keyboard that they would never say face to face.

I say plenty of "Mean" things "face-to-face".issedoff:issedoff:issedoff: Usually to bosses. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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This post should have a disclaimer stating...By Republicans for Republicans...
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
This post should have a disclaimer stating...By Republicans for Republicans...
i disagree with that. the article was written in the wall street journal, as left as they come. i am more middle than either of the 2 parties. i was disgusted by this year election campaigns and how they were run. all i heard were negatives about the person. nobody really focused on what the canidates can do for the future of our country. it's easy to shoot off personal smears.

with all that said, if michelle obama was off limits during the election. she certainly won't be off limits now.
 
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Originally Posted by mommee
i disagree with that. the article was written in the wall street journal, as left as they come. i am more middle than either of the 2 parties. i was disgusted by this year election campaigns and how they were run. all i heard were negatives about the person. nobody really focused on what the canidates can do for the future of our country. it's easy to shoot off personal smears.

with all that said, if michelle obama was off limits during the election. she certainly won't be off limits now.
Yep. I think Michelle Obama is in for a very rude awakening. I give her until March at the latest before she snaps and provides non-lefties a smorgasbord of material.
 
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Originally Posted by mommee
....with all that said, if michelle obama was off limits during the election. she certainly won't be off limits now.
Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Yep. I think Michelle Obama is in for a very rude awakening. I give her until March at the latest before she snaps and provides non-lefties a smorgasbord of material.
I second this..ohhhh...do I second this!!!
 
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Originally Posted by 2
Someone once said:
"As goes the leadership, so goes the country."

liberals are the Original "Hate America" crowd.
They reached a fever pitch, when W was elected, and they have sustained that fever pitch.

Rush is on the right, and right on.
He uses people's own words, to illustrate the truth.

You need to listen to him for 6 weeks, to make an informed opinion. Most of his detractors have never heard much of anything he has said, unless it was something taking out of context, and twisted.

This is a tactic that has been perfected - by liberals.

Throughout this campaign, the liberals have continued to pursue their objectives, with what ever means available.

To them, the ends justifies the means.

That is a sharp contrast to the gentleman's approach, taken by most republicans. McCain is a superb example, as he had tons of ammo, which he refused to use.

The republican's major failure, is a failure to fight the liberals.
You are a shining example of the downfall I am speaking of. Thank you for proving my point.


BTW, I listened to Limbaugh for several years.
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
This post should have a disclaimer stating...By Republicans for Republicans...
I am not a Republican. Over the past eight years, I found I could no longer agree with the "neocon" movement that took over the Republican party. If you took the time to look beyond the title of the article, you would find that the arguments hold true for EVERY President in modern times. Bill Clinton is certainly benefiting from it, the further we get away from his Presidency.

Look beyond party lines. Look at what our actions are saying about our country. It is truly sad, and if you cannot see that, then I pity you.
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
You are a shining example of the downfall I am speaking of. Thank you for proving my point.


BTW, I listened to Limbaugh for several years.


I think his pharmacists drives a jag now
 

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